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Old 08-27-2008, 03:10 PM
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regarding the head-swap:
Old and new L15 heads Compatible?

i remember reading about this and deciding that a complete swap (including tranny) would be the best route. i've also read that the new l15 block will have an integrated exhaust manifold like the r18 in the civics? can anyone shed some light on this? it would be a shame if it did
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:12 PM
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bah, major title mistake! could one of the mods kindly change the title to "..GE7(i think that was the chassis code) to GD3.."

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Old 08-27-2008, 03:13 PM
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still it yields more potential than the current L15 head
Sure does, and what's going to be the kicker is when people start coming out with an improved valve train! Now that's when the ish is gonna start getting interesting.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:15 PM
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i wonder if hondata will consider the new ECU worthy of tuning.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:18 PM
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i personally dont really see a point of doing an entire engine swap to go from a fit engine to a fit engine. all that time effort and money to gain like 8hp and a couple minor engine upgrades? go big.

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Old 08-27-2008, 03:24 PM
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i personally dont really see a point of doing an entire engine swap to go from a fit engine to a fit engine. all that time effort and money to gain like 8hp and a couple minor engine upgrades? go big.

but subscribed for interest.
it's only 8 hp and 1 tq, but the torque is more usable. i feel the new i-vtec head will have a lot of potential with aftermarket add-ons. plus a used L15A7 will probably sell for like $1500 once the new Fits have been out for awhile, and should swap right in without any major modifications. a K20A goes for $5000 and requires a lot of custom fabrication and modifications (costing around $7000 for the full swap without labor if i'm not mistaken).
a K20A would be sweet, but for $7000, i'll pass.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:29 PM
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I want to look at that muffler and see if it fit's? I bet I could pick one of those up real cheap as soon as exhaust systems start coming out for the GE.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:32 PM
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Dual over-head cam instead of single over-head cam. it runs on all 16 valves at all times, and switches to a more aggressive cam lobe in 'vtec'. on our current GD3 L15A motor, it runs on 12 valves normally, but once in vtec, it runs on all 16 valves.
I think it is still SOHC isn't it?

Also with the redesigned integrated exhuast and totally redesigned block cooling channels I doubt you will get the full delta of 8hp and 1tq out of just a new head.

The real question is, how well will it respond to mods.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:44 PM
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I want to see the difference of the head on my car ! and the pistons and rods as well. It should make a big difference.
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I want to see a back to back Dyno and see how dramatic the torque difference is across the power band.

I have this feeling that the head is not going to bolt up with so many changes, will be looking forward to seeing if it is a possibility later on.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:48 PM
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Changing the head for one with an integrated manifold? Doesn't sound that good to me. Look at the R18 civic and the HUGE number of choices you get to do with it.
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if someone could transfer the telescoping steering column to the GD3's
you would become an instant hero.
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I agree.
Id be intrested in doing that. Everything else is ehh.

Actually id like to rock the GE8 Nav in my car..Hmmm.
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:00 PM
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I agree.
Id be intrested in doing that. Everything else is ehh.

Actually id like to rock the GE8 Nav in my car..Hmmm.
GE8, so that's the new chassis code for USDM Fits? thanks for that info! +Rep
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I agree.
Id be intrested in doing that. Everything else is ehh.

Actually id like to rock the GE8 Nav in my car..Hmmm.
really? i rarely use nav so none of my cars have them. i have a
blackberry with telenav and googlemobile which does plenty for me
during biz trips where i dont know where im going.

people at the office make fun of me while im walking and reading
emails on my bb saying that i need nav to get to the restroom.
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Totally Ken.
Im in the market for a InDash nav system and have been doing resarch on them for the last few weeks. I can get a pretty good system for around 750$, but its a Pioneer, which isnt bad but id rather have a Honda OEM system. Im sure it will not be cheap, 1400$ at least. Well see though.
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