Anyone think the Fit wanders at highway speeds?
#61
Thanks for everyone's input...but saying your GD is stable doesn't exactly help people with GE's that have a tracking problem (considering this is a GE thread). Different rear axle design from my understanding.
OOOORRRR, can you swap a GD rear axle with a GE so you can throw on some adjustment shims?? I'm gonna research...
OOOORRRR, can you swap a GD rear axle with a GE so you can throw on some adjustment shims?? I'm gonna research...
#62
I should mention:
I've driven from Cali to Florida, coast to coast, in both a Toyota Echo and a Honda Element.
Believe it or not, the Element was the twitchier one!!! That car was all over the road, as it had a short wheelbase and large wind profile, and was quite topheavy (lots of extra weight in the reinforcement in the roof and doors to compensate for the suicide doors. .
I've driven from Cali to Florida, coast to coast, in both a Toyota Echo and a Honda Element.
Believe it or not, the Element was the twitchier one!!! That car was all over the road, as it had a short wheelbase and large wind profile, and was quite topheavy (lots of extra weight in the reinforcement in the roof and doors to compensate for the suicide doors. .
#64
My 2008 back tires wore out quickly even though I rotated them. The dealer said it because the back end is so light that it skims the highway. I did notice it wonder a little but that because 1 set of tire were in the road grove and the other was riding the crown. The car is a little to narrow.
#67
I have heard good things about the C pillar bar... I noticed that there was an amount of body roll in the rear that only occurred when I would make a quick lane change and it scared the heck out of me... 7" X 15" wheels with 41mm offset made a tremendous difference and stiffer rear (air) shocks made an additional improvement unless the air pressure was above 12 PSI without a load... I was feeling real good about it until I drove a Fit set up for road racing that looked like it had the ultimate high dollar jungle gym in place of everything that occupied the area behind the front seats.... I have been socking away money to be able to stiffen up my car since then.... My car presently has a bit of negative camber that requires me to rotate my omni directional grand touring tires frequently to compensate for the wear on the inner tread of the front tires.. The handing feels very good but after encountering an epic storm and not being able to drive over 30 MPH and maintain control I came to the realization that I need to have some alignment work done.. ... From what I have read in the literature that was out about the GE at the time it was released here, it has a considerably stiffer passenger compartment and there is less twisting and flex that affects the the handling as much as the GD models and the rear anti-sway bar on the GE Sport would appear to beneficial in cancelling out rear body roll as well.... I apologize for getting carried away with a long post that deviates to an extent from being on topic... I guess I made my coffee way too strong this morning... .
#68
got the sport model with 16" wheels. i find at freeway speeds the car tends to wander left and right easily (no crosswind). im thinking its either the narrowness of the tires (185? 195?) or the short trail/low caster.
anyone with wider aftermarket front tires comment on the straight line stability?
anyone with wider aftermarket front tires comment on the straight line stability?
Weve had a fewstock fits with road wabnderbut they were cured by alignbment and tire pressures.
We've several Fits with after market tires, typically 205to 215 and theywill follow road undulations in the surface due to te large tire tread section width.And really with race tires. The only easy thing to do is increase toe-in to 1/8 to 1/4" total.
#69
Maybe I'm nottotally clear on what you guys mean by "wandering.". If I roll along at freeway speeds, the Fit requires very few corrections. I more or less hold te wheel still, with a barely visible adjustment every 5-10 secs. I've driven cars in the past that had a dead spot on center, and needed much more frequent adjustments to keep tracking. The fit though, requires very little of it: it takes only a very slight adjustment, hardly enough to see the wheel move, to keep it straight.
I couldn't ride with my ex-wife-- she made constant, little twitches left and right, and would have your head bobbing left and right!
I couldn't ride with my ex-wife-- she made constant, little twitches left and right, and would have your head bobbing left and right!
#71
I have tried 38, 33, and 27lbs but it is just worse the higher I go.
Shouldn't Honda fix the wander and pulling to the right when accelerating and to the left when deaccelerating and"Memory Stear" ( not returning to the center when released after a turn)?
Honda said they were going to increase the toe in but I cant see a difference in the before and current charts.
See attached chart.
Shouldn't Honda fix the wander and pulling to the right when accelerating and to the left when deaccelerating and"Memory Stear" ( not returning to the center when released after a turn)?
Honda said they were going to increase the toe in but I cant see a difference in the before and current charts.
See attached chart.
#75
Your dealer is completely full of BS. Tires don't "skim the highway" and wear out. Rear tires normally wear much more slowly than fronts because they don't have to steer, accelerate or do much braking. If your rear tires wore out first, they are most likely mis-aligned and dragging sideways a bit. Significant under-inflation can accelerate wear as the heat generated by the underinflation will break down rubber. I have 20K on my 2009 Fit Sport and rotated the tires once at 10K (first oil change). Normal wear all around, so i don't think this is a generic Fit problem. I would guess something is wrong with your alignment. Tell the dealer you want them to check the rear alignment under warranty.
#76
This is why I don't find the Fit to wander at highway speeds:
Driving my Fit down the 1 Freeway
Note that I am making only tiny corrections, rolling at approx 75 mph. There is almost no dead-area in the middle of the steering. I've driven cars that used old recirculating ball steering, and they did tend to wander somewhat - small corrections would not suffice, you had to turn the wheel what felt like several degrees side to side to track smoothly (My Wrangler was particularly bad in the respect).
The Fit just rolls along easily with one hand on the wheel, keeping in whatever line I've set it on.
A sudden windgust from the side will require some correction, three of my last four vehicles were compact SUVs (and the fourth was a compact pickup), I'm used to that.
Driving my Fit down the 1 Freeway
Note that I am making only tiny corrections, rolling at approx 75 mph. There is almost no dead-area in the middle of the steering. I've driven cars that used old recirculating ball steering, and they did tend to wander somewhat - small corrections would not suffice, you had to turn the wheel what felt like several degrees side to side to track smoothly (My Wrangler was particularly bad in the respect).
The Fit just rolls along easily with one hand on the wheel, keeping in whatever line I've set it on.
A sudden windgust from the side will require some correction, three of my last four vehicles were compact SUVs (and the fourth was a compact pickup), I'm used to that.
#77
This is why I don't find the Fit to wander at highway speeds:
Driving my Fit down the 1 Freeway
Note that I am making only tiny corrections, rolling at approx 75 mph. There is almost no dead-area in the middle of the steering. I've driven cars that used old recirculating ball steering, and they did tend to wander somewhat - small corrections would not suffice, you had to turn the wheel what felt like several degrees side to side to track smoothly (My Wrangler was particularly bad in the respect).
The Fit just rolls along easily with one hand on the wheel, keeping in whatever line I've set it on.
A sudden windgust from the side will require some correction, three of my last four vehicles were compact SUVs (and the fourth was a compact pickup), I'm used to that.
Driving my Fit down the 1 Freeway
Note that I am making only tiny corrections, rolling at approx 75 mph. There is almost no dead-area in the middle of the steering. I've driven cars that used old recirculating ball steering, and they did tend to wander somewhat - small corrections would not suffice, you had to turn the wheel what felt like several degrees side to side to track smoothly (My Wrangler was particularly bad in the respect).
The Fit just rolls along easily with one hand on the wheel, keeping in whatever line I've set it on.
A sudden windgust from the side will require some correction, three of my last four vehicles were compact SUVs (and the fourth was a compact pickup), I'm used to that.
I agree. Going to our video on youtube "Fit leading" even at speeds of 100 mph the Fit tracks straight on an imperfect but not really bad roadway. Any wander must be tires or alignment or a really bad road surface that sidetracks tires substantially.
#78
That's a heavily wooded area. As opposed to an open flat windy plain there's really no comparison.
Nowadays you see trees circling the perimeters a lot of farmlands, farmers plant them to serve as a windbreak, and even a single row of single-file trees serves to dampen the wind blowing on their fields significantly.
So your test driving through a wooded area like that isn't really the best example, compared to what a lot of other Fit owners will be experiencing where they drive. Would be no comparison to a flat highway in an open plain in Kansas or Oklahoma for example. Try the test on I5 North of LA.
Nowadays you see trees circling the perimeters a lot of farmlands, farmers plant them to serve as a windbreak, and even a single row of single-file trees serves to dampen the wind blowing on their fields significantly.
So your test driving through a wooded area like that isn't really the best example, compared to what a lot of other Fit owners will be experiencing where they drive. Would be no comparison to a flat highway in an open plain in Kansas or Oklahoma for example. Try the test on I5 North of LA.
#79
That's the section of 1 near my apartment - there is a constant perpendicular wind blowing in from the ocean, with some sections with trees, gaps in the dunes, etc. I definitely notice the sidewinds there on my motorcycle (and at times can hear the sand pelting the side of my car or feel it on the side of my neck depending on vehicle). The Fit just doesn't seem that affected by them.
Ive driven sections of I-5 near Fresno, Merced, Modesto, etc - definitely wide-open farmland, and not had any trouble. It may be that my baseline for "getting blown around quite a bit" is different from years of driving taller vehicles. The Fit doesn't seem as affected.
#80
Well, at an indicated 70 mph with side winds of 5-8 knts I have absolutely no wander at all. Stable as a a rock, about the same as my wifes E class.
I would guess that the OP has either tire or alignment problems as mentioned here several times.
I would guess that the OP has either tire or alignment problems as mentioned here several times.