I created this thread to list the wheel/tire packages that don't rub when lowered on Swift Sport Springs (but I do want to collect info on the bad combos that rub as well). I will copy and re-post the feedback results in this first post so they're easy to find.

Reply if you're running Swift Sport Springs (or other) with a wheel/tire package that is different from stock. Give me these 5 things:

1. Fit model - year, MT or AT
2. Spring make if different than Swift
3. Wheel make, model, size AND offset!
4. Tire make, model and size.
5. Does your setup rub? If yes, explain the how/when scenarios, and whether it's acceptable or unacceptable.

Thanks in advance for your comments. Here's the list:

• Stock configuration | Fit Sport 16x6 +53 | Dunlop SP Sport 7000 A/S 185/55-16
• Goobers | '10 MT | Swift | Enkei RPF1 16x7 +43 | Continental ExtremeContact DWS 205/50-16 | Rubs if I hit a bump WHILE turning
• ThEvil0ne | GE8 | Swift | Work Emotion XD-9 17x7 +47F/42R | Yokohama S.drive 195/45-17 | No rubbing when driven normal, hard, or fully loaded
• Skinny | GE8 | Swift | Enkei PF01 17x7 +38 | Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec 215/45-17 | No rubbing in any situation (questioned, not verified)
• Btrthnezr3 | '09 MT | Swift | Rota R-Spec 16x7 +45 | Continental ExtremeContact DWS 205/50-16 | Does not rub.
• M4psycho | '09 MT | Swift | Rota Torques 16x7 +40 | Dunlop Direzza DZ101 195/50-16 | No rubbing issues at all
• bl_arias | '10 MT | Swift | Tenzo DC-5 17x7 +42 | Continental ExtremeContact DWS 205/45-17 | Absolutely no rubbing at all so far
• Jim2bFit | '09 AT | Swift | Rota R-Spec 16x7 +45 | General Exclaim UHP 205/50-16 | A blink-of-an-eye tire kiss at full strut compression. Perfect!
• rla217 | '09 MT | Swift | stock wheels | Continental ExtremeContact DWS 205/50-16 | No rubbing so far.

Here's a visual of some combos in the list:



Here's a more detailed visual if you're still confused:

 

doesn't a "no-rub" in the title go against telling when/whether it rubs?

Enkei RPF01 16x7 +43
Conti Extreme DWS 205/50/16
Rub if I hit a bump WHILE turning.

 

Yeah, I thought about that.

I want the thread title to lead people here to find the combinations that work with the Swift springs, but I don't want to limit info to only good combos. There aren't many threads that put all the specs right at the top, and I hate searching and reading for the nuggets I need.

If a wheel/tire combination works with no rubbing, you're golden and there's nothing else to explain. However, there are lots of reasons for rubbing, mostly caused by bad math. I want people to see the reasons why some of those combinations are "close" since it could be valuable to them given the mods they may/may not have made to this point.

 

Great thread. Hopefully I will be able to contribute to this. I have a 2011 Fit, and I just purchased Swift Sport Mach Springs. (Not installed yet) Still have to pick up my Buddy Club P1 SF's as well in May.


Wheel> Buddy Club P1 SF 16x7
Tire> undecided
Rub>

 

Should also note if it's at or mt as the AT sits about .25 lower to begin with in front.

 

.25inches im assuming. Thats pretty interesting. Glad I got an MT....moar lowwww

OP, do you NEED Swift springs for this thread? The way I look at it, if you are compiling a list for everyone, might as well do all makes of lowering springs.....share the love

 

Being selfish and running the Swift's on my Fit, I wanted to limit the list to Swift spring configurations. I wasn't prepared to maintain a list for any/all spring configurations.

I'll consider adding more combos if this thread gets the traffic, but I expect that people with Swift springs will probably visit here most often. So yes, the door is open since I'm not overwhelmed yet! LOL

 

Good point Lyon, I added the A/T vs M/T parameter to the table.

It answers the question Goobers was making (about allowing "rubs" on the no-rub list - I can always count on Goobers to keep me straight- LMAO). The A/T vs M/T could be a situation where the same wheel/tire package may work in one case but not the other.

So I guess this means that I will consider adding other spring mfg's to the list since someone might want a specific wheel/tire package, but is undecided on which springs to buy (rather than the other way around). I think most of us tend to upgrade springs first since it's so much cheaper than pulling the trigger on new wheels & tires.

 

swift / work xd9 17x7 (+47F/+42R) / s.drive 195/45R17 / driven normal, driven hard, driven with full load = no rubbing issues

 

+1 thanks to OP!!! awesome idea - this will help me in decision making!

 

Thanks, man!

 

enkei PF01 - 17x7, 38 offset
dunlop z1 star spec - 215/45/17

no rubbing at all, not matter what the situation

 

Skinny, can you post some pics of your drop on the swift springs? how much gap is there still. It's pretty amazing that you are not rubbing on 38 offset and 215 tires!

 

I've been meaning to ask Skinny the same question!

I'm sitting here getting ready to buy the Enkei PF01 17x7 with a +45 offset, and I'm worried that a 205/45 will rub with the Swifts because ThEvil0ne is running a +47 up front with a 195/45 and says it's just right. Then Skinny posts the +38 with a 215/45 and I was like whaaaaahuh? I figured it might be a typo and I just hadn't gotten around to asking him yet

 

I find it hard to believe. 215 and +38 means it should come into contact with the fender in a hard enough bump. The only thing I can think of is, skinny's definition of " not matter what the situation" only includes mostly smooth roads.

I don't track my car and I'm pretty sure there are lots of people, in fact, lots of GE owners that drive more aggressively than I do, and I'm already rubbing the clip/pins (in specific but common conditions).

to Jim2bFit, I guess you can modify mine.. I took a closer look at where it rubs.

In the following picture of the driver side, just behind where it meets the bumper, from my middle finger to my pinky is the length of the liner (an "edge" right behind the fender where the tip of my fingers are) that's getting shaved ever so slightly (I'd guess about 3 inches long). There's also a push pin about where my index is pointing, that's also getting shaved slightly too. I knew about the pin, just found out about the "edge." -Rubs on bumps WHILE turning-


In following picture of the back half of the front passenger wheel well, you notice how the liner is generally gray in the picture (and dirty), but there's a little darker spot right in the middle of the picture next to the tire? I just noticed that too... so it's lightly rubbing there too. -Rubs on turns only-


You'll have to excuse the blur, I took a couple of quick shot with an iPod Touch.

I think I can live with it.

EDIT:

I took a closer look at the rear fenders... I need someone with a stock Fit (at least stock wheel and stock tires) to look at their rear fender, at the top of the wheel well. Does the sheet metal, of the fender, bend into the wheel well and then up at an angle? or just straight in? Because on my Fit, it's bent upward... I wouldn't think much of it, except it lines up with the outer edge of the tire, as if multiple hard bumps shoved the tire into the fender causing it to bend away.

 

the only reason I'm running +47 is because the xd9 don't have them in +45, I would have liked it more if I'm on 17x7 +45 195/45. Why 195/45??? coz it's the closest overall diameter to stock and it's still within the allowable specs for a 7 width wheel.

As for Skinny... there's no way he won't rub on those wheel/tire combo without fender mods

 

Heck, my 205s and stock wheels rub. Well until you rub a groove in the plastic wheel well and the tires wear down a bit, then It stops. I'm on Megans but it's a similar drop to the swifts.

 

I'm about a month's worth of driving away from the wear bars on my stock Dunlop's. Now that my Craigslist ad and FF ad have lined up some buyers for my stock wheels, I'm getting REAL close to pulling the trigger on my new setup. Taking notes from as many people running Swift springs as possible, I'm 99.9% sure this is what I'm going with:

• Wheel - Enkei PF01 17x7 +45
• Tire - 205/45-17

I took into consideration ThEvil0ne's worst case (front), 195/45-17 and 17x7 +42, with no rubbing. I like his look, I like the tire stretch, and the fact that it is the closest circumference to stock when moving up to a 17" (even better cuz it's on the slightly smaller side). What I don't like are the limited tire options in that size.

Then Goobers posted some good pics of his very minor front wheel well rubbing issue running the 205/50-16 and 16x7 +43 setup. I've been keeping track of some wheel offset comparisons a came to the conclusion that if Goobers setup is that close, then a +45 with a 205/45 will probably free up just enough space to where it will only rub if I'm compressed to the bump stops and turning, if at all. That, and I have a lot more tire options while remaining pretty close the stock circumference (1.04% on the larger size, 59.3mph vs 60mph).

So the real question is whether I will get all of the KMR chassis braces I ordered before I get the new wheels!

Yeah, I'm friggin' geeked!

 

1. 2009 Fit Sport M/T
2. Swift Sport Mach
3. Rota R-Spec 16x7 45mm offset
4. Continental Extreme Contact DWS 205/50/16
5. Does not rub. Have rubbed maybe once in the almost year that I've had this setup. This was on a huge deep dip followed by a steep rise while going too fast. Other than that, no rub.

 

1. 2009 Fit Sport M/T
2. Swifts!
3. Rota Torques, 16x7 +40mm
4. Dunlop Direzza Z101 195/50/16
5. Haven't noticed any issues of rubbing at all.