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How often do you change your oil???

I change mine every 7,000 or 8,000 miles/4 to 5 months - usually when there is 30% of oil life left - I can't imagine going all the way to 10% - that seems like WAY too many miles!! Does anyone else make it this long?? 7,000 is already out of my comfort zone.

I am using conventional oil - no synthetic on a '09 MT - I drive moderately with most of my upshifts at about 3800rpm under normal acceleration. 100,000 on the odo.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:02 PM
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My MM hits zero roughly every 6k miles. The only time it went beyond that was during my road trip. At that time i changed it at 8k miles because i was stopped over at my sister's place in San Diego, but it still had 40% left. Considering i still had to drive through the United States, over to New York (not a direct route either), then finally back home around Chicago, i didn't think the 40% would cover it.

On the flip side, i neglected my last oil change and went 1k miles past zero on the MM (changed at 7k), and now its already at 10% and barely past 2k miles since that change!
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:28 PM
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I've generally gone to 0% or nearly so, depending on scheduling convenience and such, which has worked out to 11-12k miles for me. Every report I've seen here of people who have had oil analyses done has suggested that the MM estimates are pretty accurate and a little on the conservative side (i.e. you could safely go a little longer than it says).
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Wow, DrewE thanks for the info. It just seems so long after having "every 3,000" drilled into me growing up. Good to know I can wait a little longer and actually let it get down to a lower oil life percentage! Some dealers I have spoken to still insist on every 5,000 regardless of the mm, while Honda itself has been very clear that I should wait till the mm indicates. I'll try and hold out a little longer this time around!!
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I try and do it when its at around 30% but I wouldn't be afraid to let it get to 15%. I don't drive much. I live in the city and want to keep the oil as clean as possible. I only change my oil about 2-3 times a year since I drive so little. I've been using el cheapo Napa filters. I'm gonna try switching to the Mobil 1 extended mileage ones I picked up on sale. What's 5$ more for a top end filter if it'll sit in my car for half a year...
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Any reason why you're using conventional oil?

Why not take advantage of a full synthetic? Which I'm fairly certain, is the only type of oil recommended for our GE fits? (0w-20)

First and formost a full synthetic will give you greater peace of mind with the longer oil change intervals, not to mention the added fuel economy a 0w-20 brings to the table.

I'm sure this may rustle a few jimmies, and opinions on oil can sometimes feel like you're sticking your dick in a bee hive, but when in doubt use the type of oil Honda recommends, which I believe is a full syn 0w-20
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On the flip side, i neglected my last oil change and went 1k miles past zero on the MM (changed at 7k), and now its already at 10% and barely past 2k miles since that change!

guess the MM is pretty smart and is trying to make up for the previous interval?

I do mine as soon as is convenient after the 15% indicator comes on, which equates to 10-15K km
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How Often?? Apparently not often enough, since my local Honda dealer keeps calling me all the time to find out what maintenance they can perform on my car. I politely tell them that I can handle my own oil changes thank you.
As for our GD, I am amazed that after 7,000 miles of ownership, not one drop of oil has been burned by an engine now registering 101,000 miles. These truly are amazing engines. After 7,000 miles on my Corolla engine, I'd be at least a quart down.



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I know mine is at a little over 3500 miles on my car and it is at 30% but that is because I do quite a bit of idling waiting to go into work and warming my car up but hopefully that will be coming to an end pretty soon, as it starts to warm up in the north. I Plan to let my go to 10% before I change or even 0%.
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I went 10K for the first one, used the kind of oil recommended, etc. Oil changes are cheap enough all around, why mess with it? Its the single best thing you can do to preserve the life of your car, why cut corners on that?

I have decided, though, to rotate the tires every 5K miles, and oil every 10K or whenever the oil indicator light flashes, which is not always 10K. My husband lets his base MT idle for a while before driving (this winter was super cold) and his is down to 15% at 6K miles. So its not all about miles, it seems.
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The "maintenance needed" light starts nagging you at 15%. It turns on with the car and you have to push the MM/odometer shaft to clear it. That's always enough to get me to change it. But this is about 10,000 miles between changes given my pattern of driving.

Agree that the reason to change is to remove moisture and other corrosives that build up over time, but this is exactly what the MM's algorithm is based on. It's not mileage based: it's based on operating temperature and revolutions. Cars that are only driven for short periods will get very short oil change intervals by the MM.

As far as oil goes. Synthetic has other advantages besides longevity. Engine sludge doesn't build up. For the price difference and 10K oil changes it's cost effective given the increase in MPG (3% by lab studies, no I won't google a link). If you need to change it every 3K, either by MM or obsessive disorder, I'd think twice about more expensive oil, but would probably spend the extra $15 anyway. I'm cheap but that's taking it to extremes.
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Agree that the reason to change is to remove moisture and other corrosives that build up over time, but this is exactly what the MM's algorithm is based on. It's not mileage based: it's based on operating temperature and revolutions. Cars that are only driven for short periods will get very short oil change intervals by the MM.
Ah, that makes total sense. Honda's are so smart
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7000+ miles is no big deal. My old 96 Civic called for a fixed 7500 mile interval. I'm sure oils and engines are better today so I have no problem following the MM's schedule. In my case it's about every 10,000. I'm no speed-racer.
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The "maintenance needed" light starts nagging you at 15%. It turns on with the car and you have to push the MM/odometer shaft to clear it. That's always enough to get me to change it. But this is about 10,000 miles between changes given my pattern of driving.

Agree that the reason to change is to remove moisture and other corrosives that build up over time, but this is exactly what the MM's algorithm is based on. It's not mileage based: it's based on operating temperature and revolutions. Cars that are only driven for short periods will get very short oil change intervals by the MM.

As far as oil goes. Synthetic has other advantages besides longevity. Engine sludge doesn't build up. For the price difference and 10K oil changes it's cost effective given the increase in MPG (3% by lab studies, no I won't google a link). If you need to change it every 3K, either by MM or obsessive disorder, I'd think twice about more expensive oil, but would probably spend the extra $15 anyway. I'm cheap but that's taking it to extremes.
Agree and I also use full synthetic, but if you get an oil change at a jiffy lube type place, it's like $30 for regular and $90 for synthetic oil. The price difference is outrageous.
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I think synthetic may be a good idea for long intervals but it is optional per page 286 of the 2013 owners manual..

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What manual are you reading? On page 286 under Viscosity there are two listings:

Page 201, where it specifies "Premium-grade 0W-20 detergent oil."
Page 269, where it gives two choices: "Genuine Honda Motor Oil 0W-20" and "API Premium-grade 0W-20 detergent oil."

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