Fit FREAK.net

Go Back   Unofficial Honda FIT Forums > The Honda Fit and Jazz Forums > 2nd Generation (GE 08-present)

2nd Generation (GE 08-present) The New Fit... Generation specific talk and questions here.

Welcome to Fit Freak!
Welcome to Fit Freak,

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 04:26 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 97
Rep Power: 26
jenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud of
How come 2009 Fit mileage has decreased?

The more I think about this the more it bugs me.

You can compare mileage ratings here:
Side-by-Side Comparison

Not only is the 2009 gas tank .2 gallons less than 2008, the 2009 Fit reports getting less mileage than 2008.

Makes me wish Honda had increased the gas tank by .2 gallons. I hate having to fill up before I've gone at least 300 miles on a tank.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Registered users do not see this ad.
Click here to register for free!
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 04:59 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 97
Rep Power: 26
jenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud of
I just noticed in the brochure that the Auto Transmission gets higher MPG than the Manual. Can this be right? Manuals usually get more MPG. What accounts for this?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 05:07 PM
Black01's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: VA
Posts: 535
Rep Power: 4622688
Black01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to live
This is interesting, I thought that '09's are getting more mpg?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 05:11 PM
cranky18's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 334
Rep Power: 25
cranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud of
The best I ever got commuting (mixed, stop and go) in my 07 was 32mpg. During the breakin, same route, I am consistantly getting 36+ in my 09.
__________________

"Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the shadow"
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 05:15 PM
Black01's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: VA
Posts: 535
Rep Power: 4622688
Black01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to liveBlack01 relies on Rep Points to live
Quote:
Originally Posted by cranky18 View Post
The best I ever got commuting (mixed, stop and go) in my 07 was 32mpg. During the breakin, same route, I am consistantly getting 36+ in my 09.
what are you using to compute the mpg? I have a GD and when I drive it normally I usually get 37+mpg without trying.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 97
Rep Power: 26
jenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud of
These MPGs you guys are quoting are above what the sticker is showing. Are you guys running recommended tire pressure? Are you hyper-miling like crazy? I'd like to know "real-world" results where tires are at recommended pressure and the person is just driving normally--so I can get a realistic assessment.

What accounts for your higher MPGs than the sticker?

Are you guys driving MTs or Autos?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 05:46 PM
cranky18's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 334
Rep Power: 25
cranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud ofcranky18 has much to be proud of
Mine's a Sport Auto with Navi. I am quoting what I caluculate, not what the computer shows. The computer is about 4 miles better milage. I would imagine around town would be much lower. I drive pretty normal, 65-70 on the highway, and I don't typically race around town. Even so, I am definitely not hypermiling. It really suprised me that the milage was that much better than my 07.
__________________

"Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the shadow"
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 05:57 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 97
Rep Power: 26
jenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud of
Brochure and Honda website say AT Sport gets:

27 city
33 highway
30 combined

Hopefully, the MT will get above what the Brochure is quoting too. Anybody running an MT and without exception getting better MPG than brochure quotes?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 07:23 PM
niko3257's Avatar
FitFreak GE8 DIY Guy
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Palm Coast FLA
Posts: 1,477
Rep Power: 42949675
niko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to live
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenhonski View Post
Brochure and Honda website say AT Sport gets:

27 city
33 highway
30 combined

Hopefully, the MT will get above what the Brochure is quoting too. Anybody running an MT and without exception getting better MPG than brochure quotes?

everyone gets better MPG than the brochore.
the EPA sets the standards on MPG now so they are
all low.
but if you drive normal you will see good MPG.

i do alot of highway which is under 55mph
and i get over 37MPG
last fill was 37MPG
the one before that was 43MPG
this is all hand calculated not the
dash computer. the dash was off
one time by 2.5MPG and another time
by 4mpg
so i def don't trust it.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2008, 11:30 PM
IfTheFoo's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 260
Rep Power: 4
IfTheFoo has a spectacular aura aboutIfTheFoo has a spectacular aura about
I reset my trip odometer (and hence, the mpg average) before a 50 mile 100% highway trip on flat terrain, 70 mph, no AC, and the trip showed avg 44.2 mpg. Wow. I expect when I get around to manually computing at next fillup, I'll see something like 4 mpg less than the computer average. Hell, I'll take 40mpg!
__________________
2009 Taffeta White Sport, Automagic.
My other car is a Road King
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 06:57 AM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 89
Rep Power: 4
ctsport will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black01 View Post
what are you using to compute the mpg? I have a GD and when I drive it normally I usually get 37+mpg without trying.
You can't compare your milage to his because his daily commute and driving style is different from yours. What is relevant is that he has had both cars and is driving the same routes so his results are comparable.

Last edited by ctsport; 10-12-2008 at 07:02 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 02:03 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 97
Rep Power: 26
jenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud of
Anybody know why the Auto is ranking higher than the MT in mileage?

Honda Base Fit Manual: 27/33/29
Honda Base Fit Auto: 28/35/31

I find this discouraging because I always enjoyed getting better mileage by choosing an MT. Why all a sudden in an Auto getting better mileage?
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 02:11 PM
niko3257's Avatar
FitFreak GE8 DIY Guy
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Palm Coast FLA
Posts: 1,477
Rep Power: 42949675
niko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to liveniko3257 relies on Rep Points to live
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenhonski View Post
Anybody know why the Auto is ranking higher than the MT in mileage?

Honda Base Fit Manual: 27/33/29
Honda Base Fit Auto: 28/35/31

I find this discouraging because I always enjoyed getting better mileage by choosing an MT. Why all a sudden in an Auto getting better mileage?
the gear ratios have changed for manuals in 09
thus making the auto have more MPG

do a search on gear ratios
this has been discussed before. i even posted
a thread with actual speeds and rpms for both
mt and at trannys
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 04:55 PM
mdbrich's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 72
Rep Power: 858998
mdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to livemdbrich relies on Rep Points to live
I've done several runs with my fit. Recording them all. I only have 1600 miles on it so far. and I get

Freeway all the way 42 mpg. I got about 410-20 miles on a full tank (did this twice)

City with large hills. Talking takes engine to 5-6rpms to maintain speed up where I daily. I get an average of 28-32
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 05:06 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC USA
Posts: 2,274
Rep Power: 2868501
mahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to live
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenhonski View Post
The more I think about this the more it bugs me.

You can compare mileage ratings here:
Side-by-Side Comparison

Not only is the 2009 gas tank .2 gallons less than 2008, the 2009 Fit reports getting less mileage than 2008.

Makes me wish Honda had increased the gas tank by .2 gallons. I hate having to fill up before I've gone at least 300 miles on a tank.

The EPA test got more accurate and suposedly more like normal driving.
Changed speeds and accelerastion/deceration rates. But the test program is nothing like I drive and probably not yurs either. It does provide a valid comparision between vehicles though and that is the primary reason.
As for the revised gas tank size it probably relates to the change in body structure. There perhaps is less room for the tank and still meet the crash regs.

Last edited by mahout; 10-12-2008 at 05:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 05:13 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC USA
Posts: 2,274
Rep Power: 2868501
mahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to live
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenhonski View Post
I just noticed in the brochure that the Auto Transmission gets higher MPG than the Manual. Can this be right? Manuals usually get more MPG. What accounts for this?

Gearing. The auto only needs something like 2200 rpm at 60 mph while the manual needs something like 2800 rpm. Since the engine is 1500 cc, or 91 c.i. for both the auto will get better mpg in spite of 5% higher 'geartrain' losses.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 05:16 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC USA
Posts: 2,274
Rep Power: 2868501
mahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to livemahout relies on Rep Points to live
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenhonski View Post
Anybody know why the Auto is ranking higher than the MT in mileage?

Honda Base Fit Manual: 27/33/29
Honda Base Fit Auto: 28/35/31

I find this discouraging because I always enjoyed getting better mileage by choosing an MT. Why all a sudden in an Auto getting better mileage?

The auto turns 2200 rpm at 60 mph and the manual 2800 rpm. The more times you fill the cylinders the more gas you use ...
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 06:06 PM
IfTheFoo's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 260
Rep Power: 4
IfTheFoo has a spectacular aura aboutIfTheFoo has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdbrich View Post
Talking takes engine to 5-6rpms to maintain speed up where I daily.
Uhhh, what's that you say?
__________________
2009 Taffeta White Sport, Automagic.
My other car is a Road King
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 06:11 PM
IfTheFoo's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 260
Rep Power: 4
IfTheFoo has a spectacular aura aboutIfTheFoo has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by mahout View Post
The auto turns 2200 rpm at 60 mph and the manual 2800 rpm. The more times you fill the cylinders the more gas you use ...
Although (and I'm not looking at the dyno charts right now, but most engines run this way) you get more torque at higher rpms for a given gear ratio. Maybe (or not!) Honda decided that most MT customers would be enthusiasts and geared the thing to run at higher rpms for more perceived peppiness. It would be interesting to interview the engineers to find out the REAL reason this is so. I think both AT and MTs should have had the same overall gear ratio. I mean, one can always downshift if an increase in peppiness is needed...
__________________
2009 Taffeta White Sport, Automagic.
My other car is a Road King
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 10-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 97
Rep Power: 26
jenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud ofjenhonski has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by niko3257 View Post
the gear ratios have changed for manuals in 09
thus making the auto have more MPG

do a search on gear ratios
this has been discussed before. i even posted
a thread with actual speeds and rpms for both
mt and at trannys
That sucks!

What's the advantage of higher rpms--just more torque? What exactly does this increased torque do for the driver?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
2009, 70, automatic, fit, fitmileage, freak, honda, manual, mileage, miliage, mpg, mph, rating, rpm, trans

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Used 2007 Fit, or new 2009 Fit? Deanwvu General Fit Talk 5 08-29-2009 12:35 PM
2009 Honda Fit vs. 2009 Toyota Matrix drfranklin Other Car Related Discussions 22 08-07-2008 11:52 PM
Fit 2008 vs Fit 2009 - The Decision cargirl2B General Fit Talk 14 05-31-2008 07:23 PM
2009 Infiniti FX50 Sid 6.7 Other Car Related Discussions 6 05-28-2008 10:12 PM
Will the 2009 fit get better gas mileage? scorpian5 General Fit Talk 4 04-28-2008 08:41 PM

 
Go


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0