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Bottom line is I don't trade cars and therefore could care less about resale to a dealer or wholesaler. I have sold every modified car I have owned private party to another enthusiast, who chose my car for the mods I had done. Yes the Fit is a change for me but is not my first Honda (95 civic, 00 civic hatch).
I'm not trying to start some huge pointless argument/discussion with you. I'm just simply stating the fact that its obvious you "err on the side of caution". And people who modify cars to get the maximum handling/grip/etc need to ignore this thread and go for it.
You represent about 5% of the people reading the posts based on trade-ins vs private sales in all markets I have data on.
You're in the same catagory as race cars, even showroom stock ones.
^ in bold is the same exact thing i wanna do. hopefully someone figures it out soon and posts it up in here.
On the 08 and earlier Fits the largest we've had no trouble with is 16x7 wheels with 42 to 45 mm offset and 205/45x16 tires, unless you are willing to curl the fender lip, grind off fender parts, and the like.
We only have one experience with an 09 and that got a 16x7 with 50mm offset and 205/45x16 tires.
The 195/45x17's on 48 mm offset 17x7 wheels is close but has a chance of working. The only thing worrying is the diameter is very close to stock and that puts the tire edge very close to the fender lip. Wanna consider 205/40x17's?
I'm confused. Are you saying that tire size won't work at all, or do you mean specifically with those wheels? I have concluded that 195/45-17 is the ideal plus-one tire size (for a conservative upgrade). Would that size work if we used wheels with the OEM offset (50-53)? I really wish Honda would offer accessory 17s to make it easier...
I'm confused. Are you saying that tire size won't work at all, or do you mean specifically with those wheels? I have concluded that 195/45-17 is the ideal plus-one tire size (for a conservative upgrade). Would that size work if we used wheels with the OEM offset (50-53)? I really wish Honda would offer accessory 17s to make it easier...
195/45x17 tires will undoubtably work on stock 53 mm offset wheels no wider than 7"; however if the offset is reduced to 48 mm it gets iffy. Our gage is so close to rubbing that any deviation over 'spec' tire dimensions would rub.
A 195/45x17 tire can vary 2 mm in all dimensions, width, diameter, and there isn't a standard for tread width.
But a more accurate test is anticipated; see my conversation with JDM about remounting stock 185/55x16 tires on 16x6/53 wheels on 1/4" spacers (we got em by the boxful) or 1/4" stacks of 1/2" ID washers to see if the clearance is there. If you have the 09 handy it will be easy for you to do but I wouldn't drive anywhere. And let us know what you find. If the tire extends out beyond the fenderlip
its not good. Especially if the tire edge is near the outside of the fender lip. You can jump up and down on the door frame to see if rubbing is probable but don't do it very hard.
good luck.
This is on a stock car correct...??? I would love to see some pic`s of how "CLOSE" we are talking about....
Agreed. I'll see if I can get hold of the 09 again.
Its 'close' to us when the gage edge is within 2mm of an interferring surface. Thats based on the variance in tire specs: usually 2 mm on diameter & width. and the tread width is not specified. We use 90% of the width as the 'edge' on the tread at the OD.
What I'll do is take a stock 185/55x16 on the stock wheel and remount with 6mm spacers to get the equivalent of 47mm offset wheels with 6" rims.. We think that will definitely rub but 205/45x16 tires won't because the OD drops from 24" to 23.26" and that 3/8" (10mm) on radius is just enough to get by when the wheel/tire rises in the fender.
195/45x17 tires are 23.90" in diameter, too close to stock 24" and with 48 mm offset to say that will work with rubbing on stock front fender.
We'll see.
You can also try it if you have 6mm spacers or 1/4" stacks of 1/2" ID washers. I don't know when we'll get the 09 in here again, probably not til Saturday.
What tires do they specify with that wheel? As expected, not specified. And:
16x7 wheels with 43 mm offset actually have 5.16" backspace. (thats OK. stock 16x6/55's have 5.16" too.)They are including the 1/2" flange width to get 5.66". Backspace is really the distance from the hub face to the inside of the rear flange, vis-a vis the the tire bead.
I suspect that it will be very close even using tires no bigger in diameter than that of 205/45x16 tires; (23.26" vs 24" stock) anything larger, tough luck. Maybe stock 185/55x16's is what they want to fit on their wheel. The wheel pushes out 1' but a stock tire only pushes out 1/2" and that may make it.
How would 16x7 with a 35offset with the stock tires which I believe are 185. Im hoping it would be completely flushed with the car. BTW this it with the 09 fit as well
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Hey i was wonderin if you guys can possibly let me know if the Knig BRITELITES 16x7, 4x100 with a 40mm offset would fit the 09 FiT?
Stock wheels are 53 mm offset and you want to push the wheel out another inch. Even with stock 185/55x16's, that will likely rub the front tires on the fender arch. You might get away with 205/45x16's because the tire is 3/4" smaller in diameter.
We were supposed to get an 09 Fit in here last Sat to try putting 1/4" spacers behind the wheel hub to see if 48 mm offset would work but he didn't show and can't raise him on the phone. Based on our tire/wheel template your 40 mm will not work.
You can test by putting washers on the lugnuts and replacing the stock wheel. Four stack of 1/2" ID washers 1/4" high will do it.
Unjack the Fit BUT DON"T DRIVE IT ANYWHERE !!! and see how close the tire is to the fender arch. Our template says the edge of your stock tire will be right out to the body side of the arch and that catches the fender arch on compression.
Since you have an 09 and we don't let us all know what you find. A picture would be nice.
good luck
PS Anyone else reading this that can try this is welcome.
How would 16x7 with a 35offset with the stock tires which I believe are 185. Im hoping it would be completely flushed with the car. BTW this it with the 09 fit as well
I think that is hopeless. Pushing the wheel out .8" is just too much. The closest for 09 or 08 is 205/45x16 on 16x7/45 mm offset wheels. The 205's are 3/4" smaller in OD and just sqeak inside our trest fender on compression. Just.
I think that is hopeless. Pushing the wheel out .8" is just too much. The closest for 09 or 08 is 205/45x16 on 16x7/45 mm offset wheels. The 205's are 3/4" smaller in OD and just sqeak inside our trest fender on compression. Just.
See the previous post replyfor more info..
I guess i wont be tryin those Konigs. I saw a set of SSR Type C 16x6.5 with 44mm offset that i THINK would fit but wanted to clear it up with you guys before i go ahead and purchase them. So any idea if the 16x6.5 44mm offset would be ok?
What about a 17x7 with 43 offset? I was on tirerack and the say that it will fit along with some 205/45x17 rubber. Just want to make sure before I spend any money.
What about a 17x7 with 43 offset? I was on tirerack and the say that it will fit along with some 205/45x17 rubber. Just want to make sure before I spend any money.
On my 08 I have 205/40x17's on 17x7/42 offset wheels and they don't rub at stock height. On a 09 I have doubts so I would recomnmend 205/45x16's on 45 mm. We had one of those work.
i'm gonna stand by an earlier post and say i don't think there's anything wrong or ugly about the stock wheels. if you want to be unique powder coat 'em, but i'd def. keep those originals.
I'm with you, I think the stock wheels on the 09 sport look great. We put new 15" wheels on my wife's 08 base but I'll be spending my $$$ on other mods.
Ok let me put in my 2 cents, this past weekend i tried my buddys 17x7 +40 drag ce28 replicas and they stuck out past the fender about 1 inch in the front and the back was flush, and then i went and tried my other buddy's 16x7 +45 rota c10's and they stuck out about 1/2 in the front and was flushish in the rear. so IN the US you will need 16x7 or 17x7 with +48 or more for the front for it not to stick out
Ok let me put in my 2 cents, this past weekend i tried my buddys 17x7 +40 drag ce28 replicas and they stuck out past the fender about 1 inch in the front and the back was flush, and then i went and tried my other buddy's 16x7 +45 rota c10's and they stuck out about 1/2 in the front and was flushish in the rear. so IN the US you will need 16x7 or 17x7 with +48 or more for the front for it not to stick out
That's what we said, too.
You ddn't say what tires you used. 205/45x16's on 7x16 wheels with 45 mm offset might work because the tire is smaller but we have only one example and it was feather close when the suspension compressed. A twitch either way and it would have rubbed.
Ok let me put in my 2 cents, this past weekend i tried my buddys 17x7 +40 drag ce28 replicas and they stuck out past the fender about 1 inch in the front and the back was flush, and then i went and tried my other buddy's 16x7 +45 rota c10's and they stuck out about 1/2 in the front and was flushish in the rear. so IN the US you will need 16x7 or 17x7 with +48 or more for the front for it not to stick out
was this on stock ride height? once negative camber comes into play from lowering the vehicle I feel the +45 should work fine. If the rear cleared that's good to hear since the rear camber would be static on the solid beam, correct?
An important question to a large percentage of the viewing public is this - Will 205/50/16 tires on the stock wheels fit without a problem? This will be my first upgrade to the craptastic stock tires!
I would love to see some pic`s of how "CLOSE" we are talking about....
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