205/50-16's Installed on Fit Sport Factory 16"
#21
This is good info...any updates on the mileage info? I just don't see how going from 185 to 205 could result in a loss of a whole 2MPG (assuming the tires are properly inflated)....especially on highway driving.
#22
But I think its worth it for the extra grip, improved handling and stopping distance.
BTW, I have these tires as well, the rims they are going on are " out for delivery" right now
#23
I've had them on for a while now, my seat-of-the-pants estimate is about 2 mpg lost. But worth it, as the handling and braking is better, and best of all, the freeway "wandering" problem is gone. Plus, they look great!
#25
looks too wide for the wheelwidth for my tastes. steering response will be dull
vs wat 205's should be able to do on a say 7.5" wheel.
what was wrong with the stock 185's?
vs wat 205's should be able to do on a say 7.5" wheel.
what was wrong with the stock 185's?
#26
Looks very nice!! Can you put some more pics up. Like straight from the front, angled front, angled rear. This is probably the size I will go with when upgrading just to have more tire on the road and i like the wider look. I have 205/50/15 on my stock gsr blades on my integra and they handle amazingly.
#27
Looks very nice!! Can you put some more pics up. Like straight from the front, angled front, angled rear. This is probably the size I will go with when upgrading just to have more tire on the road and i like the wider look. I have 205/50/15 on my stock gsr blades on my integra and they handle amazingly.
#28
great info, as the stock honda wheel and tire size for the new fits' is a total suckfest.
all the reviews on it seem to agree that the chassis is superior to the gd3 and can be pushed harder, but he stupid wheel and tire sizes are holding it back.
if it was the stock rims, i'd probably just go with a 195 series wheel, as that would help greatly over the 185's. now if you had a wider tire, than 205's would be awesome.
remember this though: you tire is an ultra high peformance tire. alot of your braking and handling improvements are probably due mostly to the increase in sticky. obviously the extra contact patch helps, especially with stability, but i still think its mostly due to the type of tire.
all the reviews on it seem to agree that the chassis is superior to the gd3 and can be pushed harder, but he stupid wheel and tire sizes are holding it back.
if it was the stock rims, i'd probably just go with a 195 series wheel, as that would help greatly over the 185's. now if you had a wider tire, than 205's would be awesome.
remember this though: you tire is an ultra high peformance tire. alot of your braking and handling improvements are probably due mostly to the increase in sticky. obviously the extra contact patch helps, especially with stability, but i still think its mostly due to the type of tire.
#29
Stock 185's suffer two problems that the 205's eliminated, the "highway drift" problem (straight-line instability at speeds over 60 mph) and the poor stopping distance of the stock tire/brake combo. Add in that Tirerack is still selling these tires on special at only $51 each and it was a good deal. My 185's are sitting my storage room, I can probably unload them for a decent price as they had less than 1K miles on them.
Also note that there is a lot more choice in the 205 size than the 185's.
I have these same tires on my M3 (225/45-17 & 245/40-17) and my Boxster (225/40-18 & 265/35-18), they're great tires for a climate like AZ. Excellent dry and wet traction, low noise, good wear characteristics, and reasonably priced.
#30
Was reading this article about the GD spoon Fit and it talked about why they don't use wider tires: Honda Fit by Spoon - Tuner Car - Honda Tuning Magazine
"On the other side of the brakes are 15-inch Spoon rims wrapped with 195/50 Yokohama ADVAN tires. Why so small? "We didn't do major modifications to the car, so 195 tires were plenty," Sensier says. "If you add more tire, that adds more load, which stresses the suspension more. I didn't want any of that.""
"On the other side of the brakes are 15-inch Spoon rims wrapped with 195/50 Yokohama ADVAN tires. Why so small? "We didn't do major modifications to the car, so 195 tires were plenty," Sensier says. "If you add more tire, that adds more load, which stresses the suspension more. I didn't want any of that.""
#31
Was reading this article about the GD spoon Fit and it talked about why they don't use wider tires: Honda Fit by Spoon - Tuner Car - Honda Tuning Magazine
"On the other side of the brakes are 15-inch Spoon rims wrapped with 195/50 Yokohama ADVAN tires. Why so small? "We didn't do major modifications to the car, so 195 tires were plenty," Sensier says. "If you add more tire, that adds more load, which stresses the suspension more. I didn't want any of that.""
"On the other side of the brakes are 15-inch Spoon rims wrapped with 195/50 Yokohama ADVAN tires. Why so small? "We didn't do major modifications to the car, so 195 tires were plenty," Sensier says. "If you add more tire, that adds more load, which stresses the suspension more. I didn't want any of that.""
#32
Was reading this article about the GD spoon Fit and it talked about why they don't use wider tires: Honda Fit by Spoon - Tuner Car - Honda Tuning Magazine
"On the other side of the brakes are 15-inch Spoon rims wrapped with 195/50 Yokohama ADVAN tires. Why so small? "We didn't do major modifications to the car, so 195 tires were plenty," Sensier says. "If you add more tire, that adds more load, which stresses the suspension more. I didn't want any of that.""
"On the other side of the brakes are 15-inch Spoon rims wrapped with 195/50 Yokohama ADVAN tires. Why so small? "We didn't do major modifications to the car, so 195 tires were plenty," Sensier says. "If you add more tire, that adds more load, which stresses the suspension more. I didn't want any of that.""
That is an excessively wide wheel for 205's. This is not an aggressive fitment thread. As I stated before, my 225's fit easily on a 7inch wide wheel and look a hell of a lot better than a wheel sticking out like a hubcap. Why would you want 20mm narrower tire on a half inch wider wheel? All you need to get that steering response is a 6.5 and MAYBE a 7 inch wheel.
#33
if you guys are worried about the tire being too wide for the rim, look at any offroad vehicle. especially rock crawlers. they run tires 5 inches wider than the rim in most cases.
also, my brother had 295/50/15 tires on his crown vic. 15x7 rims
also, my brother had 295/50/15 tires on his crown vic. 15x7 rims
#34
OH MAH JESUS. 295s on a 7 inch wheel?! haha whatever works. That is right about the off-road vehicles, but the concerns are not all unfounded. For on-road applications the sidewall strength and how it is mounted on the wheel is much more important as it will tend to give or roll under high g force turns if mounted on to small of a wheel. The off-road tires will usually slip on whatever surface they are traveling over before this happens. That said, there is still room to play around as I stated in my earlier post.
#37
I'm no expert (though my 914 is lowered about as far as you can go), but it looks like to me with stock sport wheels and 205's you have plenty of room to lower it. You'll have to experiment on your own or work with a suspension shop to get it right.
Personally, if I were going to all the trouble of lowering it, I'd go away from the stock wheels and up to 7.0 in width. Working with the offset will be the key to a good lowered package. There are plenty of postings here from people who have worked it out for specific wheel/tire/suspension combos.
Personally, if I were going to all the trouble of lowering it, I'd go away from the stock wheels and up to 7.0 in width. Working with the offset will be the key to a good lowered package. There are plenty of postings here from people who have worked it out for specific wheel/tire/suspension combos.
#38
FC suffers with 205/50R16 tires...
So far, the closest to stock specifications but better performance/grip tires are as follow:
Bridgestone:
1. Potenza RE-11
PSR10523 195/50R16 84V 602mm 5½~7 6 201mm
Dunlop:
1. SP Sport 9000
SP Sport 9000 195/50ZR16 84ZR 601mm 5½~7 6 205mm
*PSR10523 will be available in Feb 2009, based on its Japan website.
So far, the closest to stock specifications but better performance/grip tires are as follow:
Bridgestone:
1. Potenza RE-11
PSR10523 195/50R16 84V 602mm 5½~7 6 201mm
Dunlop:
1. SP Sport 9000
SP Sport 9000 195/50ZR16 84ZR 601mm 5½~7 6 205mm
*PSR10523 will be available in Feb 2009, based on its Japan website.
#39
What is "FC"?
BTW, what do you guys do who run tire diameters that are significantly different than stock do about speedometer error? Do you just ignore it, or is recalibration possible (like we used to do with our old VDO speedos, at places like Palo Alto Speedometer)?
BTW, what do you guys do who run tire diameters that are significantly different than stock do about speedometer error? Do you just ignore it, or is recalibration possible (like we used to do with our old VDO speedos, at places like Palo Alto Speedometer)?