Hey guys I saw the Advanti Storm S1 on tirerack.com for a LOT less than the RPF-1 and I think it's much better looking...does anyone have any experience with these rims? They seem too good to be true.

I am rolling on stock Fit Sport 16's with brand new Continental DWS 205/50/16s. I would never mount 205's on a 6" rim ever again. They bulge out a lot and the sidewalls flex so much that the car feels super squirmy (the deep tread and soft sidewalls on the Contis makes this even worse). The car is much slower now, and I had to jack the pressure all the way up to 51psi front and rear to reduce the squirmy feeling enough to make the car still enjoyable to drive. Even at 45R it felt dangerous during rapid lane changes. I think on a wider rim the sidewall would not flex as much. I do love the traction in heavy rain (almost daily in FL summers) and am looking forward to my trips up North to visit family this winter as I felt the stuck Dunlops were good in snow so these will be amazing I am sure.

After a lot of reading I think the smart move would be a super light 15" rim with 195/55/15s. I want performance and MPG and I think the 205s on my stock 16's were a mistake. I have lost >3mpg and the car is much slower. This is in NO way an upgrade, aside from the excellent wet traction of the DWS (especially in heavy monsoon-like Florida rain).

I just bought these stupid DWS...so if I do this I am obviously looking at >$1000 for 4 rims, TPMS sensors, 4 tires, and another alignment.

I have camber bolts and swift springs coming so I might as well do it all at once if I go that route...

The alternative is to pick up 16x7 RPF1s so I can keep the Conti DWS I just spent a fortune on. Performance will be better than it was stock (right now it is worse), but not nearly as good as the lighter 15x7 combo. I am hoping that the 205 on a 7" rim would have much less sidewall flex so I can drop the pressures to more like 45F/42R for a less harsh ride without getting that awful rear end rebounding effect I get now at lower pressures (so pronounced that it unsettles the rear end of the car).

Funds are not tight, the car is paid off, I just want the setup I am going to be the happiest with. I do fear that if I go with the 195/50/15s (thinking Yokohama S Drive) I will get caught in a winter storm driving to Chicago and be screwed. I suppose I could keep the 16s with the DWS and switch them out for the trip but I would prefer not to as it is a PITA and the highway MPG sucks with the 205 DWS.


Let me recap:
-Does anyone have any feedback on the Advanti S1, especially vs RPF1?
-Advanta is 15x7 w/35mm offset, will this be ok with 195/55 and swifts?
-If you have experience going to a 15" wheel, was the sidewall flex worse?
-Would you get the 15's AND more new tires or get 16's and keep the DWS?
-Would 195/55/15 be the right size on my GE8? I know the diameter is smaller but speedo error should be minor and the performance should be great right?
-Anyone think 15x7 and 195/55 is the wrong choice for better handling/mpg/acceleration?


Thanks for your input guys!!!!


Upcoming Mods:
-Mini D2s retrofit w/4300k bulbs (ordered 8/27)
-Clazzio covers, all black (arriving 8/28)
-Swift springs (arriving 9/2)
-Crystal LED tails (arriving 8/30)
-LED license plate lights (need to order...)
-Shaving Fit badge 8/28
-Considering painting H badges black...

 

205/55/15 is the closest to stock size in 15s. That's the size I run on 6.5 width, Yoko S.Drive. I run 38F 34R and the sidewalls never roll over the sidewall indicator. 195/55/15 is shorter than stock. Probably more fun and will get you better accel but may be a little annoying on the highway. Up to you which you want.

The tires do a good job of covering up the crap suspension and lack of a rear sway bar (I have a base). I run +40 (6.5) and it will rub on full compression on Tein S-Techs, I just had to tuck the fenderliners though. I have not installed camber bolts yet, they're sitting in my garage waiting for shock install so I can do alignment all in one swoop.

If money was no object i'd definitely pick up the RPF-1's over the avanti's just for quality reasons... i'm no wheel snob though, so just get whatever fits your budget best.

I like my 15" setup. It'd be cheaper and easier for you to just get 16s though, the DWS are decent tires if you get snow. I don't get weather like that here so I can run the S.Drives all year.

 

I just dropped over $80k on a new Boxster S, so I realize it seems stupid to debate $500 rims vs $900 rims, but I think the Advanti's are much better looking AND cost much less...

Are they known to have issues?

I am going to look into the height difference between the 195s and 205s. If the difference is minor I don't care but if we're talking about a 5% speedo error I might have to go with 205s.

 

Very little difference. At 80mph actual speed I will be going 78.XX. Close enough for me.

I'll go with 195/55/15 and the Kumhos. I don't want to swap wheels just for a few trips a year.

I am hoping the Kumhos do not have soft sidewalls like the Conti DWS. If I feel like my tail end wagging like a dog when I make rapid lane changes I will lose my mind.

 

I saw that, but I realize people who have money have money because they don't always spend it lol

People will swear up and down about cast wheels, china/taiwan wheels etc etc (which the Avantis are, they are not as good quality as the Enkeis), but honestly, i've jumped curbs, went off the road onto dirt at speed, hit huge potholes with my cheapo Konigs and haven't had a problem. I think the sidewall height has a lot to do with it. I think a lot of people that have issues are running tiny sidewalls. Even better quality wheels can bend like that though.

I really think those Avantis look good personally as well. I might get a set and swap the wheels I have on the Fit to my other car.

IIRC the difference from stock on 195/55/15 is about 3.5% off the top of my head and memory.

I don't think the Kumho's sidewalls will be very stiff, at least from my past experiences with the brand, but I don't think they will be terrible.

 

So, I'll start with this... Personally, I like the DWS. But that's all I'm gonna say on such a subjective matter.

While there may be benefits of one wheel over another or different tires for that matter... Since you have Swift Springs on the way, it might be prudent to just wait until after those are installed before deciding on anything.

 

I was thinking it would be cheaper and more convenient to do the wheel swap at the same time since I'll want to get another alignment too.

 

Are you in Tampa or Chicago?

I'll wait to answer until I've got an answer to this.

 

I am in Tampa most of the year but I have an apartment in Chicago too. I usually drive up because I do not like to fly. I spend probably a month a year in my place in Chicago, but that is spread out over 4-6 trips about a week at a time.

 

Hmmm, I'd say get the Advanti's if you like them more.

And actually, if you're going to use 195's, those are better in the snow anyway.

 

I think I will go ahead and order the Advanti S1 with TPMS sensors and the Kumho Ecsta 4x (will come mounted and balanced).

Now I can go get my swift springs and camber bolts installed (springs arrived today, need to order bolts) and then not have to realign when the new wheels get here.

With shipping the tire/wheel combo is about $1,100. I am still looking around for used RPF-1s and found some WITH tires, but no TPMS sensors so I would have to get the tires taken off the rims, have sensors added, and then remount and balance (sure they haven't been balanced recently anyway).

That would run me probably $800 total ($600 for the used wheels/tires), why not spend an extra $300 and get NEW tires and NEW rims?

 

I guess I am pretty settled on the Advantis with 4Xs now, just need to decide on the matte gray vs black painted wheels. I am leaning towards the black because I have never had black rims and always wanted some. I rolled on Enkei 17's for YEARS with my 2003 Civic when I was in college.

I wish they were in stock not a 5 week wait.







Here's my Fit:

 

Those should look nice. Please post pics once you get them on.

-Dustin

 

^^^ when you get those wheels, pics please ^^^

 

Going to order soon, availability said Oct 1 on TireRack. I need to post up one of my bikes today and get some cash out if it as my car fund is running low. I have spent over $1,500 on the Fit in the last week, almost exactly $80,000 on a Boxster S, and am building a shopping list for that car too.

 

A little late to chime in but just out of curiosity here...

If you're looking for a replacement wheel in your alternative size of 16x7... Did you ever consider Tire Rack Motorsport's C1 in its 16x7 size? It weighs 15.2lbs and has a +42mm offset so its not too heavy at all (for a 16), wheel quality is good (paint quality could be better honestly), and the 7 inches of width will better suit your 205/50 DWSs.

Now looking at the Advanti Storm S1... If you wanted to run a tire that allowed your speedometer to be accurate you'd need to run 205/55R15s. Running this tire size (with all seasons at least) you'll likely experience a noticeable bit of side wall flex (again, depending on the tire). I once ran 205/55R15s Yokohama Avid V4S on my 15x7 TRM C1s... hated lack of the steering feedback and how much "spongy" the tire felt during aggressive driving.

You MAY also run into possible rubbing issues with 205s on the S1 featuring +35mm offset since you are lowered with Swift springs... the slightly shorter and narrower 195/55R15s HAS A BETTER CHANCE of clearing but in all honesty I can't say for sure. I highly suggest doing a bit of research on this.

If you're still trying to source the Advanti S1s check out GoodWinRacing.com. They usually carry the S1 in 15x7, x8, and x9 configurations.

 

Not too late as I haven't ordered the wheels yet.

But I am not looking for a 16x7 at all. The stock aluminum wheel is only 17.X lbs and with the heavy 205 tire the car would still accelerate slower than stock or really close on 15.2lb rims. Too heavy. If I am going to spend the money on new wheels I might as well actually get a performance increase out of it. Otherwise I'll just be another $500-1000 into the car and still be slower than stock. It is pretty common knowledge that super light 15x7s and light tires are the biggest performance upgrade available on this car short of a motor swap or forced induction.

I have thoroughly researched the speedo error from 195/55/15s and numerous other sizes I really don't care if my speedo says 80mph and I am actually going 78.Xmph. A 205/55 would only be 79.X. It's not much different and certainly not worth buying a wider, taller, heavier, tire that will flex more to have a slightly more accurate speedo (by <1mph at most speeds)

.


Considering my stock Dunlops were 185/55/16 and I never felt sidewall flex was noticeable (granted I did run 45+ PSI all the time), going up 10-20mm in tire width while going up 25mm in rim width while keeping sidewall height similar should flex less not more. The mistake before was going to a tire with a softer sidewall and deep tread (DWS), then squeezing it onto the same rim despite it being 20mm wider than stock tires. I have not heard people complaining about sidewall flex and a squirmy feeling with the Kumho Ecsta 4X, which is sitting at the top of my list right now to go on my new 15s.

Again...not considering 205/55/15 at all...

I am not completely decided on 195/55/15 vs a 205/50/15 but am not concerned with with minor rubbing. The 205/50 is slightly shorter in sidewall (and therefore overall profile) than the 195/55. If I do rub a little it won't hurt anything. If it is bad I will look into tucking/trimming the fender liners or even rolling the fenders if necessary. I am thinking about getting the S/C kit for this car and 205/50 will give me some more traction so I am still undecided between 195/55 and 205/50

 

Hey!

I am looking at getting Advanti S1 for my 08 Fit Sport(http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...ll&sort=Weight)

I just wanted to get an update from you on how it went. What size tires did you end up mounting? Would 195/55R15 tires like this http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....autoModClar=LX work?

Thanks!

 

According to Goodwin racing the Advanti Storm AKA Konig Dial-In is a flow formed wheel just like the Enkie RPF1 because Enkie is selling the technology to Konig.

 

pic

195/55 starspecs on 15x7 rpf1. there u go!