DeltaCams
#1
DeltaCams
**Update 10/4/15**
Pic of cam weights and cam specs. Deltacam T-shirt
Cams have arrived on 9-30-15. Posted specs below in post #20 but am putting here on first post below for easy find.
All Duration Specs are @ .050
Lift is with 1.5 Ratio
OEM Specs
Int Vtec Ex
170 206 173 Dur
.300 .360 .318 Lift
Performance Grind
Int Vtec Ex
176 218 176 Dur
.317 .386 .330 Lift
Contacted DeltaCams earlier to see if they could do a regrind on this engine. The gentleman I spoke too needs to know a few things about this engine before considering doing a regrind (if it is at all possible).
1) Is it a Rocker Arm or 'Bucket'? style lifter,
2) If the cams lobes are Hollow (If they are, they can't be reground).
He also was wondering if it was DOHC (Double OverHead Cam) and I stated that yes it is.
I have no idea on either of these things. I'm thinking it is rocker arms because I see this term being tossed up with Honda engine but I need some expert advice. I know where I want the horsepower focus to be at and what I'm willing to compromise but that's about it. Thanks on any help with the info I need.
**UPDATED 2-19-15**
Stock intake/exhaust camshafts arrived. Shipping out to Deltacams for Regrind. Intake camshaft is on top. Exhaust camshaft is on bottom.
Intake cam weight is 1213grams (2.67lbs)**Sorry...forgot to weigh stock weight**
Hondapartsnetwork show stock intake cam weight at 1288grams (2.84lbs).
Exhaust cam weight is 1109grams (2.44lbs) **Sorry...forgot to weigh stock weight*
Hondapartsnetwork show stock exhaust cam weight at 1134grams (2.5lbs).
Back of Deltcam T-Shirt
This video is with a full J's Racing exhaust: J's Circuit Converter, J's B-Pipe with Resonator, J's 50R muffler and Deltacams at idle.
Last edited by Myxalplyx; 05-12-2017 at 02:19 PM.
#2
**Update 2-18-15**
The stock intake/exhaust cams are on their way (Just so you guys know I'm not blowing smoke). I confirmed again (Talked to a 'Scott' there) on what exactly I needed to give Deltacams information wise. They said the same thing again: 1) Are they Rocker Arm or Bucket style, 2) Are they hollow or not.
I posted the question on another forum and got at least one response that they are rocker arm and that most likely they are not hollow. So there's hope! Once the cams arrive, I will be immediately be shipping them off to DeltaCams for a reground and see what they come up with.
From the regrind, I'm hoping for some added hp/torque in the low to midrange (if anything, hoping for no loss) with extra emphasis on the topend. I want more power at the stock's 6500rpm peak. Even if it makes more horsepower higher than this at a higher rpm, as long as it makes more at 6500rpm, I'm happy. It has to be able to pass emissions as well.
More to come later!
The stock intake/exhaust cams are on their way (Just so you guys know I'm not blowing smoke). I confirmed again (Talked to a 'Scott' there) on what exactly I needed to give Deltacams information wise. They said the same thing again: 1) Are they Rocker Arm or Bucket style, 2) Are they hollow or not.
I posted the question on another forum and got at least one response that they are rocker arm and that most likely they are not hollow. So there's hope! Once the cams arrive, I will be immediately be shipping them off to DeltaCams for a reground and see what they come up with.
From the regrind, I'm hoping for some added hp/torque in the low to midrange (if anything, hoping for no loss) with extra emphasis on the topend. I want more power at the stock's 6500rpm peak. Even if it makes more horsepower higher than this at a higher rpm, as long as it makes more at 6500rpm, I'm happy. It has to be able to pass emissions as well.
More to come later!
Last edited by Myxalplyx; 11-08-2015 at 09:41 PM.
#3
what cam grind did he end up recommending?
yes to the rocker arms
I would be very skeptical that Honda would use hollow cam lobes since that is more costly in production and is generally reserved for a higher output engine aka f20c.
Congrats on getting this ball rolling, I certainly hope installing them on the L15b is easier than doing it on the L15a. You basically have to take apart the whole engine just about.
yes to the rocker arms
I would be very skeptical that Honda would use hollow cam lobes since that is more costly in production and is generally reserved for a higher output engine aka f20c.
Congrats on getting this ball rolling, I certainly hope installing them on the L15b is easier than doing it on the L15a. You basically have to take apart the whole engine just about.
#4
In the meantime, the intake and exhaust cams arrived today. I'll be sending them out tomorrow to be modified. The intake camshaft is on top. The exhaust camshaft is on the bottom.
#7
As of Tuesday, they told me that the 2015 Fit is so new that they are still trying to get the stock cam profile information before figuring out what regrind to provide. The only ETA they have given me is 'soon'.
#11
I kept reading horror stories on their service, copy catting chinese products, etc. Just generally some people weren't happy with their service as of late (as compared to when Bisomoto first started).
I didn't read that so much about Deltacams. Always read they had great service and they are cheap. Also, haven't read about a lot of issues with their regrinding. Very few issues if any.
I didn't read that so much about Deltacams. Always read they had great service and they are cheap. Also, haven't read about a lot of issues with their regrinding. Very few issues if any.
#14
I currently have no update. Deltacams have not contacted me on the status of the cams and what their findings are as to the stock specs and their recommendations. I have not contacted them since 3/18/15.
They will probably drag their feet unless they get more interest.
Here is their website address --> Deltacams
Feel free to either send them an email, call or both.
Phone: (800) 562-5500
2366 Tacoma AVE S.
Tacoma, WA 98402
sales@deltacam.com
Sometimes companies need that extra 'push' to make things happen or at least know there is enough interest for them to make the product.
They will probably drag their feet unless they get more interest.
Here is their website address --> Deltacams
Feel free to either send them an email, call or both.
Phone: (800) 562-5500
2366 Tacoma AVE S.
Tacoma, WA 98402
sales@deltacam.com
Sometimes companies need that extra 'push' to make things happen or at least know there is enough interest for them to make the product.
#16
**Update 5/26/15**
Just got off the phone with Scott and Johnny of Deltacams. They are thinking they sent out the regrinded cams to me. They are checking again to see what may have happened.
I stated that the last we talked, I was waiting on them to get the stock specs of the camshafts so they could decide on how to regrind them before sending them back to me. I gave them my zip code and they said they would get back to me.
I also sent them a link to this thread to their email address.
So we'll see what it is up.
**The only reason why I didn't keep calling them because as some of you know, I have a few things going on that I am waiting on (Ktuner with the ECU tune and NST for the lightweight pulley) since December of last year. I understand that these things take time sometimes. As usual, I'll keep you all updated on the progress**
#17
**Update 6/22/15**
Talked to John moments ago. They are still trying to find a cam grind spec that would be similar to their 272 grind. The grind will be as aggressive as possible but still enable the car to pass emissions.
John stated that things are slowing down 'this week' so they should have some more time to work with finding out what cam profile is close enough to the 2015 Honda Fit so they have something to go off of.
So there you have it! If you are interested, feel free to call/email them yourself and push to make this happen. I have been doing everything I can.
#18
**Update 9/14/15**
I talked to John at Deltcams moments ago. There are some final touches they are going to do to the exhaust camshaft and he said he will be calling me this Friday (9-18-15) to ship them out to me. Until then.......
That's all for now.
#19
**Update 9-29-2015**
The cams are on their way. Specs will be posted in first post with stock specs once they arrive. Cam profile is typical of their 272 grinds they have performed on older Hondas.
Meanwhile, I'm looking for a shop to install them (Not dealership). If anyone can recommend any shops in the Delaware, New Jersey, Philly area, please let me know asap.
Indirectly related, I'm waiting on word from Ktuner to see if a 'Beta' tune profile I have will be compatible with this cam profile. I will be testing both.
This is all for now.
Last edited by Myxalplyx; 09-30-2015 at 06:19 PM.
#20
**Update 9-30-2015**
The camshafts have arrived. Deltacamshaft sent a free T-Shirt with them as well. Pics have been taken and weights of camshafts (If anyone gives a crap). Will post up once I find a site than can host the pics (Imageshack not working).
In the meantime, here is the information that matters. This info was written on two pieces of paper inside of the box.
All Duration Specs are @ .050
Lift is with 1.5 Ratio
OEM Specs
Int Vtec Ex
170 206 173 Dur
.300 .360 .318 Lift
Performance Grind
Int Vtec Ex
176 218 176 Dur
.317 .386 .330 Lift
This is all for now.
Last edited by Myxalplyx; 09-30-2015 at 06:32 PM.