View Poll Results: What is your Transmission choice?
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CVT or 6MT Poll
#61
Words from a true enthusiast who remembers and continues to propogate this dying art of driving a M/T.
That's why I buy Lotto tickets, so I may one day be lucky, hit the jackpot and finally buy that 458 Speciale that I lust for!!! That's an auto tranny I wouldn't mind. Wonder what hypermiling would get me on that??? 16 mpg!
#63
nono, toyota made the yaris correctly. it's like a roach trap. trap the loser into getting one, then eliminate them. lol
#64
Yes I do. All other things being equal, I would take a stick over the AT. That being said, I would take the car with better acceleration regardless. Doesn't sound so far like the CVT is set up for that at all though, so it'll be MT for me.
#65
Words from a true enthusiast who remembers and continues to propogate this dying art of driving a M/T.
That's why I buy Lotto tickets, so I may one day be lucky, hit the jackpot and finally buy that 458 Speciale that I lust for!!! That's an auto tranny I wouldn't mind. Wonder what hypermiling would get me on that??? 16 mpg!
#66
I'm not sure which to pick, my last 2 cars have been manual, a s2000 and a B5 A4. The S2000 was, of course, a blast to drive but ultimately too impractical to keep as a commuter. The A4 is embarrassingly slow given it's 2.8l engine size and the 23mpg I've been averaging. The clutch is extremely long throw compared to any other manual I've driven and sometimes it's a pain in LA traffic. I feel like performance cars should be manual all the way, but given how people are saying the new 2015 fit isn't as fun as the older models, I'm not sure if I should just get the CVT and its slightly better mpg or save the $1000 and get a 6 speed. I've also read the manual revs much higher on the freeway compared the CVT, but there's only 2 manuals listed on cars.com in the LA area and they're probably gone by now. Also having an auto means someone else can drive me home when im drunk!
#67
I'm not sure which to pick, my last 2 cars have been manual, a s2000 and a B5 A4. The S2000 was, of course, a blast to drive but ultimately too impractical to keep as a commuter. The A4 is embarrassingly slow given it's 2.8l engine size and the 23mpg I've been averaging. The clutch is extremely long throw compared to any other manual I've driven and sometimes it's a pain in LA traffic. I feel like performance cars should be manual all the way, but given how people are saying the new 2015 fit isn't as fun as the older models, I'm not sure if I should just get the CVT and its slightly better mpg or save the $1000 and get a 6 speed. I've also read the manual revs much higher on the freeway compared the CVT, but there's only 2 manuals listed on cars.com in the LA area and they're probably gone by now. Also having an auto means someone else can drive me home when im drunk!
Here's the advice given to hundreds over the last 50 years in the car business and haven'y gotten more than a dozen complaints.
An automatic yields better mpg and with paddles shifts like F1 pilots.
Yeah, the CVT costs a k more but you get that back - and more - if you have to replace a clutch and at rresale time.
Manuals used to be beneficial in performance - and the Fit still is - but DSC's and automatics better than CVT's are faster thavn manuals so their use is reduced to a badge you can wear to impress the unknowing.
Choose the transmission that fits your mission. If its performance the manual, if its mpg, quietness, and longer life the automatic. Simple as that. When I was young GM's hydramatic was leagues down from even 3 speed manualas; now tiptronics, hydralic manuals, and 'automated' manuals are way better but the CVT is todays hydramatic. except you can manually shift it and that is first rate fun on the race course. But in between ...
#68
Fun to me is beating an manual equipped car in an autotranny. Cause...you know...that ain't supposed to happen.
Last edited by Myxalplyx; 07-01-2014 at 07:22 PM.
#69
That is quite disappointing from the standpoint of the CVT. I figured that with no delays due to gear changes, along with computer control over the trans, most autos are (generally) outperforming their manual counterparts these days. The 6AT in my 2012 Ecoboost F150 works very nicely. Not that Ford offered a stick in my truck...
#70
And nobody who's serious about mpg drives an auto unless they got stuck with a car for other reasons. Simple as that.
#71
Charlie, he's convinced and you're not gonna change his mind. That said, if you just want to get in and drive, the auto will likely give better mpg. If you care to do anything to improve mpg yourself, the manual is your ticket.
#73
I voted 6MT. You have less drivetrain loss though the manual which means a few more ponies available, and more control.
In terms of racing, the only time the auto will win is if the manual driver mis-shifts maybe.
The CVT is definitely not performance oriented but may get better gas mileage.
This kind of topic can be debated until the death, only way of knowing is to do side by side driving comparisons with everything being equal over a long period of time.
In terms of racing, the only time the auto will win is if the manual driver mis-shifts maybe.
The CVT is definitely not performance oriented but may get better gas mileage.
This kind of topic can be debated until the death, only way of knowing is to do side by side driving comparisons with everything being equal over a long period of time.
#75
After driving a 67 Vdub, 69 Vdub van, 85 Subaru and 00 Nissan Altima - all sticks, I couldn't be more happier with my 15 Fit EX CVT. My left leg is over-developed because of pushing in the clutch pedal. It's time to let it atrophy.
#76
I'm hoping to beat the CVT gas mileage numbers every single day with my 6MT
Idk what EPA is on a 1993 Toyota Pickup but I know it's not 24, and I always got above EPA with my 2012 Tacoma, so I'm only assuming so far (still on my first tank) that the same will be more than possible with the Fit
Idk what EPA is on a 1993 Toyota Pickup but I know it's not 24, and I always got above EPA with my 2012 Tacoma, so I'm only assuming so far (still on my first tank) that the same will be more than possible with the Fit
#77
That's so far off base it isn't even wrong. Autos of any flavor have more failures than manuals, and clutches tend to not wear out unless you want them to.
And nobody who's serious about mpg drives an auto unless they got stuck with a car for other reasons. Simple as that.
And nobody who's serious about mpg drives an auto unless they got stuck with a car for other reasons. Simple as that.
Although I do strongly agree that the gearing could be much better. I feel like I could drive around faster roads in town in 5th and even 6th if I push it, so which gears are supposed to be for the 80mph highways here? ha
#80
I still don't understand why so many say the ratios are messed up in the manual? Honda didn't just throw some gears in there and say it's good. With a motor that is smaller than most motorcycles these days and a weight that is way heavier than any motorcycle, they did what they had to do. These ratios in the MT give the car the best overall performance and if there were some better, overall, they would have released the car with those ratios. The MT does everything this car is designed to do. It's an economy car. It's not meant to drive 80 mph but will, all day long. It's not meant to be on a race track but will, all day long. So really the only thing to complain about this car, performance wise, is if you opted for the sewing machine CV trans...should have got the MT...