Shoulda Got A 6 Speed
#1
Shoulda Got A 6 Speed
Im at 30,000 kms (18,600 miles) in my 2015 fit.
Had the recall done on the cvt a few months back. now it seems quite 'jerky' when accelerating, not a hard acceleration, just normal driving. The best i could compare it to is when the clutch packs in my 69 dart were toast and the gears would kind of hang before shifting.
I'm really worried about taking my car to the dealer. I never beat on this car, this is my A to B daily driver. I rock a built 69 dodge dart on the weekends for beating on. Really, i just do not trust the dealerships in my city, i don't want them pulling something stupid out of their hats.
Otherwise, i'm quite happy with the car, dirt cheap on fuel, easy to drive, Functional Inexpensive Transportation.
Just wondering if anyone else is having a 'jerky' cvt issue ....
Had the recall done on the cvt a few months back. now it seems quite 'jerky' when accelerating, not a hard acceleration, just normal driving. The best i could compare it to is when the clutch packs in my 69 dart were toast and the gears would kind of hang before shifting.
I'm really worried about taking my car to the dealer. I never beat on this car, this is my A to B daily driver. I rock a built 69 dodge dart on the weekends for beating on. Really, i just do not trust the dealerships in my city, i don't want them pulling something stupid out of their hats.
Otherwise, i'm quite happy with the car, dirt cheap on fuel, easy to drive, Functional Inexpensive Transportation.
Just wondering if anyone else is having a 'jerky' cvt issue ....
#4
I considered the 6-speed, but the fact is that it has become a Walter Mitty device with more gears that are needed or practical. If the 6th gear were truly an overdrive I might have gone for it. 3500RPM at 70MPH is not a proper 6th. A CVT cruises at 2300 at 70MPH and even on SoCal passes doesn't go over 3500!
#5
yeah I would have gone manual if the fit had reasonable gear ratio but driving that thing in LA traffic just sounds like a chore. My CVT serves me well but it does have a "unique" feel sometimes when launching or slowing down under compression.
#6
The car is a blast.
#7
Yeah I'm sure it's fun, i'm an old fuddy duddy that appreciates the CVTs mileage and the ease of driving in traffic.
#9
I really enjoy the 6 speed in my 2015 GK, and get 42mpg all day long. I got into the 50s actually by not using the cruise control and some clever driving. If an automatic is better on gas, i've yet to see it. (They've gotta sell you that option somehow, right?)
(35-38 combined with some boy racer action in the city. I didnt buy a yellow honda hatch to NOT drive like a jerk)
(35-38 combined with some boy racer action in the city. I didnt buy a yellow honda hatch to NOT drive like a jerk)
#10
I really enjoy the 6 speed in my 2015 GK, and get 42mpg all day long. I got into the 50s actually by not using the cruise control and some clever driving. If an automatic is better on gas, i've yet to see it. (They've gotta sell you that option somehow, right?)
I keep hearing people say that they bought the CVT for "better fuel economy", but I also can get 40+ MPG all day long with the manual without even trying. Last Sunday, I drove to Albany and back and averaged 44.7 MPG. Would the CVT do better? Don't know, don't care. I'm having a ball driving this car.
#12
personally got the cvt for the convenience factor. GF wont drive standard, plus ive been driving manual trans for over 16 years now, so it was time for a change.
when i miss banging thru gears, i take my dads 67 coronet r/t for a rip....
440 4-speed nom nom nom
when i miss banging thru gears, i take my dads 67 coronet r/t for a rip....
440 4-speed nom nom nom
#14
People are just getting fatter and lazier by the year. I'll be driving my stick shift, i dont even really care for power steering and ABS.
#16
In my old VW beetle I love the simplicity of manual steering, non-power brakes, and 4-speed stick shift. Same with my BMW motorcycle. They were made that way and work very well. So well, in fact, that I use the VW when I teach people how to drive stick.
My Fit weighs 1000 pounds more than the VW, the tires are wider, the steering wheel smaller, and its weight is over the front wheels, so it pretty much needs power steering and brakes.
Transmissions are a toss-up. I used to be a die-hard stick driver, but having driven both I opted for the CVT. The stick just didn't feel as well-matched to the car as the previous generation's 5-speed and I got the feeling that they had gone to 6 speeds just because 6>5.
I find that the CVT is very well behaved, and once you get used to the way it works the engineering becomes apparent. Your right foot tells the car the power you want and the car figures out the best way to provide it. The CVT actually does what a manual transmission approximates. It won't do some tricks like using flywheel energy to launch the car, but I've kind of outgrown that sort of behavior anyway. I'm getting a calculated 37MPG in mixed driving and got 45 on a recent highway trip. One rather cool thing I've noted is that the engine speeds up if I push the brake pedal lightly, so the transmission is actually downshifting to provide a bit more engine braking.
It's rather fun to come to a stoplight next to a coffee-can exhaust Civic and accelerate alongside at about half-throttle. They usually stick with me right up to the point where they have to shift, but there is no way that they can accelerate *while* shifting!
My Fit weighs 1000 pounds more than the VW, the tires are wider, the steering wheel smaller, and its weight is over the front wheels, so it pretty much needs power steering and brakes.
Transmissions are a toss-up. I used to be a die-hard stick driver, but having driven both I opted for the CVT. The stick just didn't feel as well-matched to the car as the previous generation's 5-speed and I got the feeling that they had gone to 6 speeds just because 6>5.
I find that the CVT is very well behaved, and once you get used to the way it works the engineering becomes apparent. Your right foot tells the car the power you want and the car figures out the best way to provide it. The CVT actually does what a manual transmission approximates. It won't do some tricks like using flywheel energy to launch the car, but I've kind of outgrown that sort of behavior anyway. I'm getting a calculated 37MPG in mixed driving and got 45 on a recent highway trip. One rather cool thing I've noted is that the engine speeds up if I push the brake pedal lightly, so the transmission is actually downshifting to provide a bit more engine braking.
It's rather fun to come to a stoplight next to a coffee-can exhaust Civic and accelerate alongside at about half-throttle. They usually stick with me right up to the point where they have to shift, but there is no way that they can accelerate *while* shifting!
#18
#19
In my old VW beetle I love the simplicity of manual steering, non-power brakes, and 4-speed stick shift. Same with my BMW motorcycle. They were made that way and work very well. So well, in fact, that I use the VW when I teach people how to drive stick.
My Fit weighs 1000 pounds more than the VW, the tires are wider, the steering wheel smaller, and its weight is over the front wheels, so it pretty much needs power steering and brakes.
Transmissions are a toss-up. I used to be a die-hard stick driver, but having driven both I opted for the CVT. The stick just didn't feel as well-matched to the car as the previous generation's 5-speed and I got the feeling that they had gone to 6 speeds just because 6>5.
I find that the CVT is very well behaved, and once you get used to the way it works the engineering becomes apparent. Your right foot tells the car the power you want and the car figures out the best way to provide it. The CVT actually does what a manual transmission approximates. It won't do some tricks like using flywheel energy to launch the car, but I've kind of outgrown that sort of behavior anyway. I'm getting a calculated 37MPG in mixed driving and got 45 on a recent highway trip. One rather cool thing I've noted is that the engine speeds up if I push the brake pedal lightly, so the transmission is actually downshifting to provide a bit more engine braking.
It's rather fun to come to a stoplight next to a coffee-can exhaust Civic and accelerate alongside at about half-throttle. They usually stick with me right up to the point where they have to shift, but there is no way that they can accelerate *while* shifting!
My Fit weighs 1000 pounds more than the VW, the tires are wider, the steering wheel smaller, and its weight is over the front wheels, so it pretty much needs power steering and brakes.
Transmissions are a toss-up. I used to be a die-hard stick driver, but having driven both I opted for the CVT. The stick just didn't feel as well-matched to the car as the previous generation's 5-speed and I got the feeling that they had gone to 6 speeds just because 6>5.
I find that the CVT is very well behaved, and once you get used to the way it works the engineering becomes apparent. Your right foot tells the car the power you want and the car figures out the best way to provide it. The CVT actually does what a manual transmission approximates. It won't do some tricks like using flywheel energy to launch the car, but I've kind of outgrown that sort of behavior anyway. I'm getting a calculated 37MPG in mixed driving and got 45 on a recent highway trip. One rather cool thing I've noted is that the engine speeds up if I push the brake pedal lightly, so the transmission is actually downshifting to provide a bit more engine braking.
It's rather fun to come to a stoplight next to a coffee-can exhaust Civic and accelerate alongside at about half-throttle. They usually stick with me right up to the point where they have to shift, but there is no way that they can accelerate *while* shifting!
Another vintage VW owner here, and every DD I've had since I started driving was a stick up until the Fit. Gearing was the only reason I changed my mind and got the CVT at the last moment (well, the wife was pushing for it a little, too, even though she can drive a manual if she has too).
38K miles in, and I'm still satisfied with it. I still have my old Bugs for the barest of bare bones driving experiences!
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#20
Another vintage VW owner here, and every DD I've had since I started driving was a stick up until the Fit. Gearing was the only reason I changed my mind and got the CVT at the last moment (well, the wife was pushing for it a little, too, even though she can drive a manual if she has too).
38K miles in, and I'm still satisfied with it. I still have my old Bugs for the barest of bare bones driving experiences!
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To be fair, I test drove the CVT and actually liked it a lot. As CVT transmission go, I thought it worked very well, and if I did more city driving, I might have made a different decision. In the end, the curmudgeon in me won out this time.
Last edited by Uncle Gary; 05-18-2016 at 08:35 AM.