Jailbreak Honda Link, Possible?
#161
Sorry for the double post, but CN_Fit, do you know if the mirroring enabling adapter also prevents you from using the rearview and mirror cameras? As far as I can tell, the signals that tell the HU to display those video feeds comes through the CAN lines.
#162
Yes sir. Though it makes you pissy as you can't use steering commands to switch songs and your phone gets _hot_ since the screen is on all the time. But it works. Here in CN they're selling a harness that plugs between unit and existing wiring and has three wires on that harness soldered together. I'll post some photos soon.
#164
Interesting, link? In the google app store?
#165
i have an iphone, but if you open the free Sygic app, there is a sygic market inside the app where you can purchase a la carte the premium features. there's a big banner that says -50% off with prices already deducted
#166
Just wanted to make sure anyone looking for the Mirror Link app didnt end up buying the wrong version.
#167
Bt function for phone audio and media is separate. For example on your android phone you can disable media passthrough and leave audio enabled.
So yes, whilenyou cannot use steering controls to skip songs you would be able to use phone commands.
But..
What I've found so far is that with music playing, maps running and bt connected my 1.5A charger in lighter socket isn't able to keep the phone charged so the battery eventually dies, after some 600 km.
Most importantly, phone gets hot. Above conditions were while phone was in the cupholder and ac vent was directed at it.
Photos of the harness and the pinout:
Last edited by CN_Fit; 06-10-2015 at 09:13 AM. Reason: Photo embed
#168
Sorry for such delay in reply, been way too busy lately.
Bt function for phone audio and media is separate. For example on your android phone you can disable media passthrough and leave audio enabled.
So yes, whilenyou cannot use steering controls to skip songs you would be able to use phone commands.
But..
What I've found so far is that with music playing, maps running and bt connected my 1.5A charger in lighter socket isn't able to keep the phone charged so the battery eventually dies, after some 600 km.
Most importantly, phone gets hot. Above conditions were while phone was in the cupholder and ac vent was directed at it.
Bt function for phone audio and media is separate. For example on your android phone you can disable media passthrough and leave audio enabled.
So yes, whilenyou cannot use steering controls to skip songs you would be able to use phone commands.
But..
What I've found so far is that with music playing, maps running and bt connected my 1.5A charger in lighter socket isn't able to keep the phone charged so the battery eventually dies, after some 600 km.
Most importantly, phone gets hot. Above conditions were while phone was in the cupholder and ac vent was directed at it.
Okay, to reiterate so I understand clearly, can you confirm..
1. I can control phone call volume from the steering wheel but not change source or skip tracks/songs
2. I can start, end, and use voice commands without any issue?
3. USB off the HU is not adequate to keep the battery charged while multitasking various functions of the phone.
I too have noticed that the charge amperage off the HU USB socket is not enough. When i use my mirror MHL adapter with my Note 4 i see that the mirror function constantly drops out as it is unable to power it. It is dropping out because the system is going into overload protection to prevent failure. If I connect the MHL adapters USB A type power cord into an external charger port capable of 2.1 A it does not drop out at all.
One can easily by a Y adapter that has a female USB A type, and two male USB A types. One will go to the HU port for data transfer, and the other for power needs to a dedicated power source. You can even make one yourself if need be. Common issue for higher powered devices. This will prevent your phone battery from dying when mirroring your phone.
Final question, where the hell can I buy this harness, I want to see it work. can you post a video possibly?
#169
Okay, to reiterate so I understand clearly, can you confirm..
1. I can control phone call volume from the steering wheel but not change source or skip tracks/songs
2. I can start, end, and use voice commands without any issue?
3. USB off the HU is not adequate to keep the battery charged while multitasking various functions of the phone.
I too have noticed that the charge amperage off the HU USB socket is not enough. When i use my mirror MHL adapter with my Note 4 i see that the mirror function constantly drops out as it is unable to power it. It is dropping out because the system is going into overload protection to prevent failure. If I connect the MHL adapters USB A type power cord into an external charger port capable of 2.1 A it does not drop out at all.
One can easily by a Y adapter that has a female USB A type, and two male USB A types. One will go to the HU port for data transfer, and the other for power needs to a dedicated power source. You can even make one yourself if need be. Common issue for higher powered devices. This will prevent your phone battery from dying when mirroring your phone.
Final question, where the hell can I buy this harness, I want to see it work. can you post a video possibly?
1. I can control phone call volume from the steering wheel but not change source or skip tracks/songs
2. I can start, end, and use voice commands without any issue?
3. USB off the HU is not adequate to keep the battery charged while multitasking various functions of the phone.
I too have noticed that the charge amperage off the HU USB socket is not enough. When i use my mirror MHL adapter with my Note 4 i see that the mirror function constantly drops out as it is unable to power it. It is dropping out because the system is going into overload protection to prevent failure. If I connect the MHL adapters USB A type power cord into an external charger port capable of 2.1 A it does not drop out at all.
One can easily by a Y adapter that has a female USB A type, and two male USB A types. One will go to the HU port for data transfer, and the other for power needs to a dedicated power source. You can even make one yourself if need be. Common issue for higher powered devices. This will prevent your phone battery from dying when mirroring your phone.
Final question, where the hell can I buy this harness, I want to see it work. can you post a video possibly?
2. I haven't set up any voice commands on the hu as I'm not actively using it at all. Will test out but again, this is hu related and if the phone is connected through bt too it should work independently.
3. Maybe I wasn't clear. I use MHL cable and the usb cable is connected to additional cigarette lighter socket that is rated at 1.5 A. Newer smartphones selfregulate charging so if the phone is getting hot it will decrease amps. Same goes for the charge percentage, higher it is less amps it will take. While 2.1 A is ok as far as potential charger quality goes, I really doubt it will take anithing more than 1.5~1.6 at max charging rate.
I guess actual difference between mirrorlink and hdmi is that hdmi runs on both screens which pushes GPU on the phone harder while on mirrorlink output goes only to hu screen.
I did use screen standby app from playstore to disable the phone screen (root) but the only thing it does is it puts black pic on the screen and minimizes the brightness.
Nevertheless, so far I have extensively tested how it works for me and it has previously mentioned drawbacks, heat and charge rate.
I can probably send you the cable eventualy if we can both be bothered, even free of charge as it is only some 5 bucks here. It is probably better if you can take a pic of the exsiting cable from the same perspective so I can see the pinout. You'd have to take out the hu though.
I can't be bothered with a video now and there's really no need, it just works. I'm having a cvt so both D and handbrake permissives are overridden.
#170
This cable works on all hondas here that have the touchscreen unit installed.
#171
I can probably send you the cable eventually if we can both be bothered, even free of charge as it is only some 5 bucks here. It is probably better if you can take a pic of the exsiting cable from the same perspective so I can see the pinout. You'd have to take out the hu though.
I can't be bothered with a video now and there's really no need, it just works. I'm having a cvt so both D and handbrake permissives are overridden.
FYI, the CANBUS feeds the HU speed sensor data likely for the SVC feature of the audio volume. Since it was already piped in there the software is also using it as a trigger to disable mirroring via HDMI.
#172
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I just confirmed MirrorLink functionality working flawlessly out of the box on my 2015 EX 6MT and Galaxy S6. I was able to use Sygic to navigate while driving with full touch functionality. It even had decent screen refresh rates over the USB wire.
So maybe the trick isn't hardware related...
So maybe the trick isn't hardware related...
#173
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I just confirmed MirrorLink functionality working flawlessly out of the box on my 2015 EX 6MT and Galaxy S6. I was able to use Sygic to navigate while driving with full touch functionality. It even had decent screen refresh rates over the USB wire.
So maybe the trick isn't hardware related...
So maybe the trick isn't hardware related...
#174
I too use Sygic, yet to buy the full version still using the trial. What you will notice is the USB port will drain the battery and not provide enough amperage to keep the battery charged. You will need a Y adapter, one for power, the other for signal to the HU. I agree, the Sygic app is pretty nice. Expensive, but nice. Google maps is great too because its free, but its not mirrorlink compatible, and the HDMI port has tons of bricks on it to make it viable as you have read.
#175
The cameras are separate inputs and while I don't know how the whole thing acrually works (you seem to be quite clear what is happening there) I can say that it works. At least rv camera, we don't have linewatch cameras available in any trim unfortunately. I'd need a picture of the cable socket that plugs in the unit to be clear on the mirror cam part.
This cable works on all hondas here that have the touchscreen unit installed.
This cable works on all hondas here that have the touchscreen unit installed.
Last edited by Kevman83; 06-13-2015 at 12:45 PM.
#176
Hi this looks promising. Where could I buy this harness? I just bought a 15 Civic Coupe Si and I would love to use Google maps instead of Sygic. I also would like to build a Raspberry Pi for my car. I wish Honda didn't lock out Hdmi while driving. I feel most people would be responsible and not watch movies while driving.
#179
Hi this looks promising. Where could I buy this harness? I just bought a 15 Civic Coupe Si and I would love to use Google maps instead of Sygic. I also would like to build a Raspberry Pi for my car. I wish Honda didn't lock out Hdmi while driving. I feel most people would be responsible and not watch movies while driving.