T1R Response Header (DYNOED) Updated March 17th 07

[AJ PwR Jr.]

Originally Posted by Mx6GT89

DYNO!!!! Me want to see

It's already been done

[Raaaaaaaaaay.]

Originally Posted by AJ PwR Jr.

It's already been done

= REALLY!? = What it make? = How much? = I want!!

[Fit of RAGE]

Here it is:

Originally Posted by AJ PwR Jr.

Sorry, I have been trying to get the dyno done ealier but due to shitty weather (SNOW & Heavy rain) so I wasn't able to do it any sooner. And NOW the dyno is done and I would like to announce the results to you all




Dyno 1 - Bone stock
Dyno 12 - T1R Intake + T1R Crank pulley +T1R 50S Cat-back exhaust
Dyno 19 - T1R Intake + T1R Crank pulley +T1R 50S Cat-back exhaust + T1R HEADER !!!!

Here the gains from DYNO 19 vs DYNO 12 :
3000rpm+1whp / +1 lbs
3500rpm+2whp / +2.5 lbs
4000rpm+4whp / +4.6 lbs
4500rpm+3.8whp / +3.8 lbs
5000rpm+2.6whp / +2.2 lbs
5500rpm+2.8whp / +3 lbs
6000rpm+1.07whp / +1.2 lbs
6500rpm+ 0whp / + 0 lbs


Here's DYNO 1 vs DYNO 19 :

3000rpm+3.5whp / +4.2 lbs
3500rpm +6.8whp / +8.2 lbs
4000rpm +8.3whp / +8.7 lbs
4500rpm+8.8whp / +8.5 lbs
5000rpm+10.1whp / +10 lbs
5500rpm +12.9whp / +8 lbs
6000rpm+13.9whp / +11.8 lbs
6500rpm+ 14.6whp / + 11.3 lbs

The 38mm piping on the header did biger difference. When we dynoed the 32mm header, the result was same as stock and we only gained a little bit of torque. After we installed the 38mm, we noticed a difference on the dyno right away.

Thanks
Ben

[Raaaaaaaaaay.]

Isnt that the old header? Im looking for the dyno with the new design...

[AJ PwR Jr.]

Originally Posted by Mx6GT89

Isnt that the old header? Im looking for the dyno with the new design...

We have tested the new header already and the gains are almost to the old one.

[Raaaaaaaaaay.]

Well, how are they? Same or worse?

[AJ PwR Jr.]

Originally Posted by Mx6GT89

Well, how are they? Same or worse?

Results were same but we got 2 more whp at peak

[Raaaaaaaaaay.]

Id like to see the sheet. And what were the AFR's like since bigger runners can cause a lean condition....

Is the header avalible yet?

[Swimmer Boy]

this header fits the USDM Fit perfectly then?

[AJ PwR Jr.]

Originally Posted by Mx6GT89

Id like to see the sheet. And what were the AFR's like since bigger runners can cause a lean condition....

Is the header avalible yet?

You got me on this one. We didn't do the wide band when we dyno this header......

The header will be released on July 1st.

Pre-order specials coming soon

[sanosuque]

Originally Posted by AJ PwR Jr.

We have done the dyno on the Fit AT. It was making 74whp stock. With the T1R intake and 50S exhaust, it has gained 10whp. So the gains on MT and AT will be similar.

Why the AT has less WHP from Stock. 74WHP when the Manual has 90WHP Stock?

74WHP stock + 10WHP with exhaust and Intake.
I know that the AT is more slow while increasing (for his transmission),but this cannot limit his power or maybe?

[ToyotaLover]

Originally Posted by sanosuque

Why the AT has less WHP from Stock. 74WHP when the Manual has 90WHP Stock?

74WHP stock + 10WHP with exhaust and Intake.
I know that the AT is more slow while increasing (for his transmission),but this cannot limit his power or maybe?

AT uses a torque converter to transfer the power from the engine to the transmission. The torque converter uses rotating mass to lock it up which is a fluid, and that extra 10-12% power loss is the torque converter.

MT uses a clutch which locks it up, and it doesn't use power or have a loss of power when transfering the power to the flywheel.

Check out websites of how it works and you'll have a better understanding.

[sanosuque]

Originally Posted by ToyotaLover

AT uses a torque converter to transfer the power from the engine to the transmission. The torque converter uses rotating mass to lock it up which is a fluid, and that extra 10-12% power loss is the torque converter.

MT uses a clutch which locks it up, and it doesn't use power or have a loss of power when transfering the power to the flywheel.

Check out websites of how it works and you'll have a better understanding.

i never hear about this. but thanks.

Anyway, why the road and track, car and driver, motor trend and the manufacturer always say that the car manual has the same HP as the A/T????


and in the 0-60mph its almost the same time. its .x less for the A/T.
im gonna dyno my car for see this.

too bad for the bad transmission of the honda. (many car automatic has a very good technology in this conversion..like the corvete,mustang..etc)

my ´comming soon´ never gonna be. now.. i wanna the DSG transmision...the bestttttt.ajajja.

[SPON FIT]

Originally Posted by sanosuque

i never hear about this. but thanks.

Anyway, why the road and track, car and driver, motor trend and the manufacturer always say that the car manual has the same HP as the A/T????


and in the 0-60 its almost the same time. its .x less for the A/T.
im gonna dyno my car for see this.

too bad for the bad transmission of the honda. (many car automatic has a very good technology in this conversion..like the corvete,mustang..etc)

my ´comming soon´ never gonna be. now.. i wanna the DSG transmision...the bestttttt.ajajja.

they do have the same horsepower,at the flywheel.the numbers you posted in your earlier post are whp.and like you said the 0-60 and 1/4 miles times are slower for the at tranny.that right there should tell you that the tranny does make a big difference

[ToyotaLover]

Originally Posted by sanosuque

i never hear about this. but thanks.

Anyway, why the road and track, car and driver, motor trend and the manufacturer always say that the car manual has the same HP as the A/T????


and in the 0-60mph its almost the same time. its .x less for the A/T.
im gonna dyno my car for see this.

too bad for the bad transmission of the honda. (many car automatic has a very good technology in this conversion..like the corvete,mustang..etc)

my ´comming soon´ never gonna be. now.. i wanna the DSG transmision...the bestttttt.ajajja.

cars like the corvete, mustang and other big block v8's usually have very long gears with the MT, and short for the AT or they change out the diff to a different gear ratio. Hence why people change the diff from mt to at and vis versa. Plus when you have extra HP to spare it doesn't matter as much.

now there are different types of torque converters and you can have them modified. We can lose less HP to the wheels if we decided we wanted to get our torque converter modded, but our tranny would be a little more jumpy if we did. It can be done, but 1. it's all about the money, and 2. how many people would jump up and say i'll drop $1k+ to get my torque converter modded in my Eco-friendly car that is suppose to be my DD??

You can find torque converters for GS300/430, and Supra TT's but the torque converters run around $800-1200 without installation.

[sanosuque]

Originally Posted by ToyotaLover

cars like the corvete, mustang and other big block v8's usually have very long gears with the MT, and short for the AT or they change out the diff to a different gear ratio. Hence why people change the diff from mt to at and vis versa. Plus when you have extra HP to spare it doesn't matter as much.

now there are different types of torque converters and you can have them modified. We can lose less HP to the wheels if we decided we wanted to get our torque converter modded, but our tranny would be a little more jumpy if we did. It can be done, but 1. it's all about the money, and 2. how many people would jump up and say i'll drop $1k+ to get my torque converter modded in my Eco-friendly car that is suppose to be my DD??

You can find torque converters for GS300/430, and Supra TT's but the torque converters run around $800-1200 without installation.

mmm,interesting...


so....for the Honda fit...exist, righ now a better torque converter? what company can make me a good semi-automatic transmission?

[ToyotaLover]

Originally Posted by sanosuque

mmm,interesting...


so....for the Honda fit...exist righ now a torque converter?

Howstuffworks "How Torque Converters Work"

[*Garismatic*]

Thinking about using Thermotec tape on my T1R header, because Fit's underhood temps are so high... Thoughts?

[AJ PwR Jr.]

You can use those heat wrap on the header to reduce heat and that will definitely make a bit of difference. When the car is in speed, the engine bay is actually not that hot but if it sits, it will be soaking

[jdmspoonfit]

Originally Posted by AJ PwR Jr.

The header will be emissions legal. As long as the stock catalytic convertor is in the car then you will be fine.

just wondering if anyone knows the law against cat-less in Ontario... what are the fine or charges perhaps..