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Just a suggestion, but if you can get sound pressure levels with the dyno chart, it would be nice. The pen is great, but a bit on the loud side, it's hard to go sleeper when your intake is louder than an exhaust. There are a few good iPhone apps that are fairly accurate
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They moved shop, i saw it on their blog. their grand opening is may 22nd so i don't think there will be much news on anything because they're pretty busy trying to move all their shat in
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The production has been delayed unfortunately. However, once I get an update, I'll let you guys know!
Regards,
Jason @ AJR
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This intake system will never make the power that the PRM system does, and this one will take up even more of your engine bay than the stock box/abortion intake. Buy the PRM while they are in stock. It will cost less and perform much, much, much better. No need to make a shelter to keep rain water off of the K&N style open cone filter.
Or, you could just duct tape a filter directly to the throttle body
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And you have absolutely NO REASON to expect more torque from the T1R box, because absolutely no dyno charts have been posted. The four 90 degree bends in the box and heat soak from the block and cylinder head will make any and all gains from the T1R box lower than those provided by the PRM. And then you have to contend with the problems of rain soaking the unprotected filter. Just keep dreaming about the "magic box". But I hope that you actually wait months, to pay too much, and buy this thing. You will deserve it.
relax turbo lol you need to loosen up a bit.
the designs that are similar make hp and torque, so how could this be any different? and i prefer to buy from main stream companies that have a very reputable reputation, thats MY opinion. not saying the PRM isn't reputable, but you don't have to try and force your opinion on me, lest you look like an idiot.
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the designs that are similar make hp and torque, so how could this be any different? and i prefer to buy from main stream companies that have a very reputable reputation, thats MY opinion. not saying the PRM isn't reputable, but you don't have to try and force your opinion on me, lest you look like an idiot.
Hear hear, if you weren't so abrasive about it, we would be more receptive, and yes the theory behind the design is well founded, just look at velocity stacks. Shorter intakes and stacks are great for squeezing every hp out of the upper rev range of an engine. If you were to build your bottom end to rev to 9000 or above, you would have the better of a longer intake. But if you look at the velocity stacks inside a LeMans racer, or on the rare inside shot of an f1 car, heck, even a new m3, they have a relatively longer stack, I've seen them as long as 7 inches. If you don't believe me, a more recent issue of modified had an article on individual throttle bodies, and the reason for the numbers they achieved is based on the performance of air management. And face it, Honda could have built a shorter stock airbox, but they didn't, and those guys know how to build fantastic engines.
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Ok, why don't you stop being a jerk for two seconds, cruise on over to sae.org and read some tech docs, or go to barnes and noble and read racecar engineering, heck I'll even send you some of my books for free. You are doing he same thing rambling on about the pen, without the t1r specs. We are just saying that a longer tube with the same flow rate is going to generally produce more torque, at lower rpm, and the shorter tube will produce more hp at a higher rpm. We are willing to wait and see, then run after the first shiny thing we see. If the numbers come out and the prm torque curve is what I am looking for, and the t1r doesn't I'll buy the prm.
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A: I'm 30, and this is far from my first car. B: once again you are speaking on conjecture, we don't have any dyno numbers, so your argument is still moot. Also, t1r said they are making some changes, and if they don't provide a chart, I will do it myself, I am going to get a baseline chart early next month, tone down the zealotry and stop bashing on products you haven't seen either. AJR is making what I see to be a good effort to support our platform, and I am willing to give them that chance, I see potential in their product, and haven't seen much in the way of bad reviews.
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You are a 30 year old little boy who resorts to name calling when he runs out of technical knowledge (quickly). You know as little about intake systems as you do about sway bars. AJR is merely a retailer- they don't make any of the five or six clones of this plastic box.
dude seriously just let it go, no one is perfect. you're just beating the dead horse and just trying to piss people off. so just take a chill pill and lay off, because it's gone from you voicing your opinion, to forcing your opinion, to maliciously attacking people for no reason. just get off your high horse and come down to earth
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Or, you could just duct tape a filter directly to your mouth
Manxman, out of curiosity, you don't find the PRM intake's design a little too obtrusive for removing every night to make love to? Do you allow the already built-up sediment to serve as natural lubricant, or do you add some drugstore-bought lube????
We all want to know, it's very interesting, you're very interesting.
Now, stop filling up this update/info thread with your garbage - I think you're far past the point of credibly influencing anyone here, so save your breath.
One more stupid little kid with absolutely no technical education, knowledge, training, or personal experience. Why don't you stop wasting bandwidth and get some education?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this thread. However, there is no reason to be bashing the T1R intake and continue on beating the dead horse.
manxman, you've made your opinion on first page of this thread already, it is really not necessarry to voice your opinion countless times. The T1R intake has no dynoes out yet, however, we stated that we will be providing dynoes when the intake is available.
Also, a note to everyone, please keep your posts on topic, this is a thread about the T1R intake. Name calling and disrespectiong other members is completely unnecessary. If matters continue on like this, I will be forced to bring in a moderator.
Regards,
Jason @ AJR
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Intake length effects placement of torque within the powerband, both before and after the throttle body. Large chambers within the intake piping are usually designed to take advantage of helmholtz resonance. Honda knows that vtec usually takes care of the top end, so they can take advantage of technology further up the stream such as above, and the long curved ports of the manifold, that are so beautifully Honda.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this thread. However, there is no reason to be bashing the T1R intake and continue on beating the dead horse.
manxman, you've made your opinion on first page of this thread already, it is really not necessarry to voice your opinion countless times. The T1R intake has no dynoes out yet, however, we stated that we will be providing dynoes when the intake is available.
Also, a note to everyone, please keep your posts on topic, this is a thread about the T1R intake. Name calling and disrespectiong other members is completely unnecessary. If matters continue on like this, I will be forced to bring in a moderator.
Regards,
Jason @ AJR
Thank you.
i'm going to try and find a mod to just delete the un-nessesary posts so it isn't cluttering everything up
if anyone has more fighting to do, keep it in pm's or go start an arguing thread somewhere else
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