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Canadian Gas Mileage

What type of Mileage are you guys getting ??
I think this question warrants a seperate post from the regular mileage thread because conditions in canada are quite different then those in the states. My mileage was consistently in the 34-37 mpg range during august and september but during late october till now it has not gone over 33mpg, I wonder if this has anything to do with the colder temperatures we're experiencing now. For comparison purposes I've got an LX Automatic and for nearly every single one of my tanks I drive 80% highway 20% local. On the highway I usually cruise on average at 110 kph - 120 kph.
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That's pretty normal. Don't forget that the gas stations have probably started switching to their winter formulations. Colder weather also means a longer time before the engine is warmed up, and your tire pressure is also lower. It's not unusual to have your fuel economy drop 10% in the winter; more if you do a lot of short trips.
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Use a block heater if you can, and keep your tire pressure up. I saw a drop on my second fill in mid-October when the weather turned colder, but my mileage has been inching back up since then, to 39mpusg on my last fill.
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http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm

I've been averaging between 6.6-6.9L/100kms (so 34-36mpg) since purchasing my manual Fit Sport. My daily commute to work is 115kms round trip, exactly 50% city, 50% highway. I'm not trying to win a race, and I'm not the slowest car out there.

Once I hit 6.1 (38.5mpg) on a highway trip, and worst was 7.3 (32.2mpg) when stuck in traffic for a few hours, in the pouring rain with the AC on and then driving a bit aggressively to make up some lost time.

So far, I'm quite happy with my average. We'll see what happens this winter.
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jonavin can i ask about how you're getting 39 mpg !?!?!

what % highway/local and what speed do you cruise at ??

almost every single one of my tanks consist of two 200km highway journeys (from london to toronto) and some a few local trips yet i havn't been able to get even close to the advertised 5.8L/100km mark yet

i use sunoco 87 which is 10% ethanol as ive heard that sunoco has the cleanest (lowest sulphur content) gas in canada
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My 6.1L/100kms was with 1500kms on the odo, AC on for 1/2 the trip, speeds between 110-130km/h, 95% highway. I'm also curious.

I'm sure averaging a speed closer to 80km/h (the test speed for the rating) with the AC of would get me right into that figure, or better.

Is yours automatic or manual?
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jonavin can i ask about how you're getting 39 mpg !?!?!
I assume that's meant for me.
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what % highway/local and what speed do you cruise at ??
Around 30% - 40% highway. About 2/3 of that is secondary roads, typically a shade under 100km/h with some slower sections; those trips push toward 45mpusg. (The mileage 'sweet spot', at least for the standard, seems to be around 80km/h.)

My city driving is mostly small city -- traffic lights and stop signs and often slow, but rarely ever traffic jams -- and short trips. Checking my 5km to work today: Morning: 6.8L/100km = 35mpusg; Evening: 7.9L/100km = 30mpusg. Most of the difference there is probably attributable to the block heater. The block heater only actually saves a few cents (electricity isn't free either) so it may never pay for itself in gas, but reducing engine wear can't hurt.
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almost every single one of my tanks consist of two 200km highway journeys (from london to toronto)
My 401 mileage is definitely lower than on small highways; in the mid/high 30s, I think. I drive 120km/h which is firmly inside the VTEC zone on the standard; if you have an automatic, though, you might be able to stay under 3400rpm without having to crawl along in the slow lane. Of course if you have to drive in rush hour you get 0mpg half the time.
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i use sunoco 87 which is 10% ethanol as ive heard that sunoco has the cleanest (lowest sulphur content) gas in canada
I generally use whatever is cheap and convenient -- a 7-11 near home, a Canadian Tire near work, a Pioneer outside of town. Some month when the weather is more stable, I intend to see whether the major brands make any difference. I don't know whether it's still used at all here, but if you can get gas with MTBE instead of ethanol your mileage will be a few percent better.

The easiest, cheapest thing you can do to improve your mileage is to keep your tires inflated; as a bonus it improves handling a bit too. When the temperature drops the air condenses and pressure drops. Don't even think about trusting an air pump gauge; get whichever digital gauge is on sale this week, and measure your tires cold. The suggested pressure on the door jamb gives a soft ride; I'd suggest you go at least half way toward the maximum on the tire sidewall. I've been using 41psi front and 39psi rear.
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ill try the tire pressures, and keeping it under 120 ... really hard to do tho as i have a lead foot
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Morning: 6.8L/100km = 35mpusg; Evening: 7.9L/100km = 30mpusg.
How are you calculating your fuel economy in the morning/evening? Do you fill it up twice in a day?
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ill try the tire pressures, and keeping it under 120 ... really hard to do tho as i have a lead foot
If I've done the arithmetic right, 3400rpm, where VTEC KICKS IN YO when cruising, corresponds to 117km/h with standard transmission (we need a 6-speed) and 152km/h with the auto.

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How are you calculating your fuel economy in the morning/evening?
Scangauge. (That won't pay for itself either, unless I use it for trouble codes some day, but it's a geek toy.)
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I'm not sure how accurate the scangauge is for fuel economy readings (I've yet to see an on board computer that was accurate), but can you post your actual litres used vs kms driven after your next fill up? Stating mileage figures for a 5km drive isn't the way people state their fuel economy.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:42 PM
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I'm not sure how accurate the scangauge is for fuel economy readings (I've yet to see an on board computer that was accurate)
Over a full tank, it's pretty good; it's not worse than using the odometer, which I know is off (but, until I buy or borrow a GPS, I don't know by exactly how much).
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but can you post your actual litres used vs kms driven after your next fill up?
My most recent tank was 35L (by the pump) over 585km (by the odometer) for 5.98L/100km or 39.3mpusg. (By the way, you can actually type 35L over 585km in mpg into a Google search box and get the answer.) My total since October is 155.3L over 2526.7km for 6.15L/100km or 38.3mpusg. I suspect that the figure corrected for true distance would be about 1mpusg lower.
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Stating mileage figures for a 5km drive isn't the way people state their fuel economy.
That was a relative comparison to indicate the effect of a block heater. Obviously other conditions are never identical between any two trips but those values are reasonably typical.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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I got 37 on my first tank. 37-38 has been my average since. I could do better but I've been having a little more fun since she's been breaking in.
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Just got 8.5L/100km (27.67 US mpg) on my first tank.
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So that's about 33 canuck mpg.

I'm 7.3/100km's
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This is retarded, speed makes no difference in my mpg figures.

I tried going speed limit both ways on my trip (100kph) on the 401 and almost got killed a hundred times over and got 34mpg. I then got fed up and went 140kph the all the way on another tank and got 32mpg. 2mpg difference from 40kph increase in speed ...
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This is retarded, speed makes no difference in my mpg figures.

I tried going speed limit both ways on my trip (100kph) on the 401 and almost got killed a hundred times over and got 34mpg. I then got fed up and went 140kph the all the way on another tank and got 32mpg. 2mpg difference from 40kph increase in speed ...
The sweet spot is around 88km/h. That's what speed they're going when they do the testing for the "Highway" value. You're never going to be able to travel at those speeds safely on a 400-series highway.
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Question Avg L/100km & Oil Change Advice

My average is 8.07L/100km. I've had my Fit Sport (AT) for 4 mths and I'm about to hit 6000km on the odom.

Is it time for an oil change or does everyone recommend just following the car's automatic notifications? My oil life is still at 50%.

I'm going to go synthetic. Any recommendations?
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I changed my oil when it was down to 10%. I had 11,000kms on the odo!
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