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Old 11-19-2007, 11:04 AM
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ONLY HONDA TPMS needs a special tool that ONLY DEALERSHIPS HAVE. In order to learn the sensors i need The HDS(Honda Diagnostic System) and the tpms learning unit. it takes about 1 hr to program. I've never seen any aftermarket sensors that worked on with the stock reciver(tpms brain). I've recomended using the HONDA PERFOMANCE TPMS and ive never had a problem with them.*ANSWER TO UR ? you need to have the system programmed to those wheels. gotta bring to DEALER
There's your answer: Yeah, you got have the system taught everytime you change tires. No the aftermarket TPMS will not work with the system in the car.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:22 PM
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My summer tires have been at 36 psi for 3 days, 50 feet from where the car is parked. No change in light. I assume that in summer when I put the OEM wheels/tires back on the car the light will go out, or else you'll be hearing from me again. Since I really don't want to pull my dash panel to remove the idiot light, for the rest of winter each time I notice the yellow light I'll think of it as a sign of love from the Honda engineers...
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:00 AM
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I dont have a light on.....I just took the sensors off, kept them far far away from the car. Sensor never reads low, or is even near the car to send the signal.
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I posted this in a nother thread, but I think the sensors only send a signal once the car is moving. It would make sense that the sensors have a built in accelerometer or switch that only sends a signal if the car is moving. Hocker must have actually drove his fit with the sensors installed (this sends a signal to the ECU that the tire pressure is fine) then turned off the car and removed the wheels/sensors and placed them far away. Since the wheels never rolled again while the car is on then the sensors would never turn on to send the signal that the pressure is low. That is my theory at least. Try placing the OEM wheels back on a the right pressures, drive until the light goes off an then remove the wheels.
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Ok so the solution for the TPMS is just simply to store the oem wheels away from the car before running the car?
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:44 PM
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Actually I was wondering if you would also have to move the spare tire away from the car as well. I think that the spare may have a sensor and needs to be moved far away as well.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:46 PM
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Nah, from what I've gathered, the spare has no sensor thats why the TMPS light comes on when you run a spare.

I think I just confuseded meself..
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thats AMAZING!

if you have the oem rims close by the tpms reciver will use that signal and think its on the car.thats why when you program these things you cant be near any other sensors. the tpms warning light will come on when you drive it away from the sensors that was set to the car. and NO they do not have accelerometers?! or whatever, it just sends a signal of voltage to the reciver and it translates it to normal pressure or low tire pressure. if no signal is found the light will go off. Is it just me or cant anyone just use the old fashion check your tires every fill up of gas, at least you know there good?
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Is it just me or cant anyone just use the old fashion check your tires every fill up of gas, at least you know there good?
The Explorer/Firestone crisis encouraged the Gov'mnt to protect us from ourselves. Not all bad IMO...haven't you followed somebody's Minivan with a very soft tire? The TPMS systems are mandatory on all new cars now, are they not?

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im not supposed to say anything but here it goes... there is a recall for all tpms sensors that honda has used on their vehicles year 07 and up all vehicles. the sensors do not read the correct tire pressure causing the tpms light to go on. if you know that your tires are set at the correct pressure, bring the car to the dealer so they can perform the Update.

Yes as of 2008 every car that is used in North america must have tpms installed. Here is the stupid part, every time that light goes off in a customers car they immediately think that somethings wrong. CHECK YOUR TIRE PRESSURES, THEN COME TO THE DEALER.
Save me the headache...
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The Explorer/Firestone crisis encouraged the Gov'mnt to protect us from ourselves. Not all bad IMO...haven't you followed somebody's Minivan with a very soft tire? The TPMS systems are mandatory on all new cars now, are they not?

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Sorry, I was born in 76...yet my first car (a 78 Rabbit) would not start unless the seatbelt was plugged in. That was certainly fun when the wire broke some 16 years later, heh. Regardless, my Fit is damn near identical to my first car in every way, except it is 10x safer. Nothing wrong with that. As for the TPMS, sounds like a pain in the ass, merely because of the sensor issue.
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As for the TPMS, sounds like a pain in the ass, merely because of the sensor issue.
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Some Chrysler vehicles have had optional TPMS systems since 2001-2002 and there are always discussions about them on their Forums. Not that reliable either, and prone to breakage by tire installers.

Toyota Siennas of that period used a non-transmitter type of TPMS system that "learned" the revolutions-per-mile of the tires over time, and would trigger the light if the pressure suddenly dropped. It used the ABS sensors. Don't know how accurate it was.



I hope every Fit owner knows that the valve cores (the little things you push in to add/remove air) are SPECIAL for TPMS valves. There was an article about that in the Honda Service News a while ago.
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UM?!.. I work for a dealer and I've never had issues with installing traditional valve cores... cores is cores, the tpms sensors have a black seal instead of a read one that you'll find in a regular valve stem. Still waitng to see one come back!
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Some Chrysler vehicles have had optional TPMS systems since 2001-2002 and there are always discussions about them on their Forums. Not that reliable either, and prone to breakage by tire installers.

Toyota Siennas of that period used a non-transmitter type of TPMS system that "learned" the revolutions-per-mile of the tires over time, and would trigger the light if the pressure suddenly dropped. It used the ABS sensors. Don't know how accurate it was.



I hope every Fit owner knows that the valve cores (the little things you push in to add/remove air) are SPECIAL for TPMS valves. There was an article about that in the Honda Service News a while ago.
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I work for a dealer and I've never had issues with installing traditional valve cores... cores is cores, the tpms sensors have a black seal instead of a read one that you'll find in a regular valve stem. Still waitng to see one come back!
That's good news, one less thing to worry about.

Here's the text of the Sept 2006 Honda Service News:

Don’t Swap TPMS Valve
Cores With Standard Valve
Cores
NOTE: This article applies to ’05
07 Odysseys,
’07 CR-Vs, ’07 Elements, ’05
07 Pilots, and ’0607
Ridgelines.
As a general rule, if you remove a valve core from
its valve stem, you must replace it with a brand
new one to ensure a proper seal. American Honda
parts stock, however, doesn’t carry separate valve
cores, so if you need to replace one, you’ve got to
order an entire valve stem.
If you need to replace a TPMS valve core, make
sure you order a new TPMS valve stem. Don’t try
to swap it with one from a standard valve stem;
the two valve cores aren’t compatible. The TPMS
valve core is nickel-plated; the standard valve core
is brass-colored.
If you’d like to spare yourself the hassle of
breaking down the tire bead to install a new TPMS
valve stem, here’s a tip: Remove the valve core
from the new valve stem, and use that core in the
existing valve stem. Of course, you’re left with a
gutted valve stem, but think of the time and effort
you’ll save.

TPMS VALVE STEM
STANDARD
VALVE STEM
TPMS VALVE CORE
(NICKEL-PLATED)
STANDARD VALVE CORE
(BRASS-COLORED)

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i work for a acura/honda dealer. the tpms(tire pressuring monitor system) will go off at 28psi or lower. the system was invented to save people from blow outs. THERE IS NO WAY TO DISABLE THE TPMS SYSTEM. the FEDS made it mandatory for vehicles produced 08-. you can try using honda factory tpms on your rims it might work, but remember you must have the sensors be programmed to the tpms unit. THATS EVERY TIME YOU CHANGE TIRES. i say screw it jus ignore the light... but hey thats jus me
The only things that I'm worry is if we get a new set of the Rims, and the light goes on will it pass the inspection from the state??
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I think the TPMS comes on after a certain number of driving miles. I placed my snow tires and rims on the car last night and the TPMS light did not go on right away. However, as I was driving to work, at about 20 miles of continuous driving the light just went on!
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I think the TPMS comes on after a certain number of driving miles. I placed my snow tires and rims on the car last night and the TPMS light did not go on right away. However, as I was driving to work, at about 20 miles of continuous driving the light just went on!

I driven mine for awhile. I will check to see if maybe a looong continuous drive maybe triggers something. What we did is make a sealed box that had the sensors in it, had that in the car driving, came back turned the car off, took the box and tossed it in the corner of the shop and it never came on again.
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I driven mine for awhile. I will check to see if maybe a looong continuous drive maybe triggers something. What we did is make a sealed box that had the sensors in it, had that in the car driving, came back turned the car off, took the box and tossed it in the corner of the shop and it never came on again.
My gut feeling when I first read how you tricked the TPS system was there is no way this will work.

So last night my new snow tires and wheels arrived I tried this trick, it worked for about 20 min then the light came on, I guess my gut feeling was correct.

Now someone just needs to find away to disable the TPMS, some say it can’t be done but I think someone will find a way.
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Yet another weigh in on the issue... I had the same thing happen. Swapped the OEM rims for Steel rims w/ winter tires. I stacked the OEMs in my garage (a couple feet from the car). I drove the car intermittently for about 3 days until the light randomly turned on. Funny thing is I was miles away from my house...so the "one way" signal theory is shot. If it only gets triggered by a low-pressure signal then it should have only turned on in or near the sensors. My plan is also to just ignore it, unless someone finds a n easy solution.
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So basically your guys answer to the TPMS is to just drive around with the light on? that seems kind of janky. Im looking at some rims from Tire Rack (by the sound of it the sensers they sell wont work) and im tring to figer out what to do about the TPMS. Would I be able to switch the sensers from the stock wheels to my new wheels?
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