Constant speed "stutter" - Page 7

docjim2 · #**121** (**permalink**) 05-04-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaime

thanks kancerr, I went in today to pay the bill and get my car. They told me they would not charge me but I was not welcome in their dealership again because I complained. I have purchased vehicles from them for over 25 years. Spread the word Williamson Honda in lincoln NE SUCKS! My complaining has only begun. What good is a 7 year super dooper warranty, I pay for monthly,with all the bells and whistles good for if I have to drive 100 miles if i need warranty work? Toyota anyone!!!

you would think that with all that is going on they would try and be nicer. Maybe they are multi-millionaires who don't need your money??

But this is not an isolated incident. There is a Honda dealer in my area where the head service manager has banned 100+ customers because they pissed him off... and he still has his job!
No, I am not going to name the dealer. There are a lot of people I know personally that work there and it IS, except for one person, a good dealership. It is a bit weird that this kind of non customer service is as common as it is.

lugies · #**122** (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 06:00 PM

I bought a 2007 Fit Sport Automatic from my brother-in-law a few months ago because I knew it got excellent gas mileage(34-40mpg). However, a few weeks later it started getting worse gas mileage(26-32mpg) and would notice a very slight shutter when stopped at a stop sign. Over the next few months it has gotten worse and worse until I finally took it to the dealership and now they are replacing the fuel filter. I have the exact same problems as koolKevin in post #10 and wished I had found this forum before I took it in

I have no mods or anything not factory built on the car. I'm having the dealership check the Coil Packs now so I'll let you all now how that goes.

docjim2 · #**123** (**permalink**) 05-29-2009, 10:07 AM

I was getting an average of 27 mpg on m,y '07 Fit very mixed. Last week I filled up the tank. According to my Scangauge II I am now averaging 24. And I will probably still get 25 to 27. I live in the Atlanta area hills and all. On the open road years ago I got 38 to 41. But when you or I push this little engine:1.5L up hills then you are going to get worse mileage. I would be interested in the answer to a question that I have: just how much ETOH is actually in the gas. I heard a rumor that the percentage may actually be 25% or more?!
As for the fuel filter: my 2000 Accord has never had a new one. My son's '92 3 door: still original. I had a '92 Accord, one of the best engines, original FF. BTW my Accord gets almost the same mileage as the Fit at times.
My stuttering is an off and on thing. There are NO codes. Either from my Scangauge or the machine at the garage. I also have never changed out the plugs in my Accord. But what is the cost for coilpacks??

lugies · #**124** (**permalink**) 06-01-2009, 10:01 AM

Well, fuel filter definitly was not the problem

I had my brother-in-law check the car out and he said it is most likely a coil pack problem. He said that only one is probably bad otherwise the car would be worse and get worse gas mileage. So he suggested ordering a coilpack and switching it out with one of the old ones until I find the bad one. I just called autozone and a couple other parts places and they did not have the part so I'm going to have to order from the dealership

docjim2 · #**125** (**permalink**) 06-01-2009, 01:57 PM

I put my old air-box (OEM) with a cleaned and re-oiled K&N filter and noticed a small black tube coming out of the AT box on the top. It turns toward the front of the grill but goes no-where! Really looks like a vacuum tubing with no connector. It is right under the right side of the air box, curves approxiately 60% and stops. It does not appear to have any suction with the engine on... puzzeling to be sure. So far all the people, dealership and service personnell, are stumped. I even supplied a hi-res picture to no avail. The reason I mention this is because I thought it was the reason for the stuttering.

Rob22315 · #**126** (**permalink**) 06-01-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by docjim2

I put my old air-box (OEM) with a cleaned and re-oiled K&N filter and noticed a small black tube coming out of the AT box on the top. It turns toward the front of the grill but goes no-where! Really looks like a vacuum tubing with no connector. It is right under the right side of the air box, curves approxiately 60% and stops. It does not appear to have any suction with the engine on... puzzeling to be sure. So far all the people, dealership and service personnell, are stumped. I even supplied a hi-res picture to no avail. The reason I mention this is because I thought it was the reason for the stuttering.

It's probably just a vent to equalize the internal pressure of the tranny to the outside. Keeps from blowing seals due to air pressure.

Rob22315 · #**127** (**permalink**) 06-02-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by docjim2

I put my old air-box (OEM) with a cleaned and re-oiled K&N filter and noticed a small black tube coming out of the AT box on the top. It turns toward the front of the grill but goes no-where! Really looks like a vacuum tubing with no connector. It is right under the right side of the air box, curves approxiately 60% and stops. It does not appear to have any suction with the engine on... puzzeling to be sure. So far all the people, dealership and service personnell, are stumped. I even supplied a hi-res picture to no avail. The reason I mention this is because I thought it was the reason for the stuttering.

Order it from one of the on-line parts suppliers. It will be considerably cheaper.

docjim2 · #**128** (**permalink**) 06-02-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob22315

Order it from one of the on-line parts suppliers. It will be considerably cheaper.

Thanx for the info; thought it probably is a vent since though it looks like a vacuum hose there is no vacuum present.
Don't need one, just wondered what it is; seems a strange place to put it.

inmytree · #**129** (**permalink**) 06-16-2009, 01:19 PM

Add me to the stutter club...

I took a trip from NC to PA over Memorial Day Weekend in my 2008 Fit Sport/5-speed. 3 of us in the car, packed with Camping Gear. I noticed the stutter mostly when merging with traffic via the on ramp...I figured it was due to the A/C being on...I also felt a "miss" while driving highway speed on 95...

This stutter/miss was intermediate...

I normally don't drive the Fit daily, my fiance drives it daily...

I'll be taking in to the dealer to have it checked out, as it only has 18,000 miles....

mahout · #**130** (**permalink**) 06-16-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by inmytree

Add me to the stutter club...

I took a trip from NC to PA over Memorial Day Weekend in my 2008 Fit Sport/5-speed. 3 of us in the car, packed with Camping Gear. I noticed the stutter mostly when merging with traffic via the on ramp...I figured it was due to the A/C being on...I also felt a "miss" while driving highway speed on 95...

This stutter/miss was intermediate...

I normally don't drive the Fit daily, my fiance drives it daily...

I'll be taking in to the dealer to have it checked out, as it only has 18,000 miles....

If it was truly a miss instead of 'hesitation' from a/c compressor engaging, first try a couple of cans of injector cleaner without alcohol and see if problem clears. If it doesn't have dealer check coil packs/spark plugs.

docjim2 · #**131** (**permalink**) 06-16-2009, 02:25 PM

Yes i have it on my Fit when on highway @ 2500 rpm with A/C and sometimes w/o.
Changed back to a chambered intake, aftermarket, and it went away. Weird. But, it seems that with the aftermarket intake the throttle response is good but = worse mpg.

Darn! The stutter came back!
Hmmm maybe if I replace the engine.... [;

aallbbeerrtttttt · #**132** (**permalink**) 06-16-2009, 06:28 PM

my fit has 65k miles on it, mostly highway miles, and i just started to notice it once or twice a trip

looks like it only gets worse

haven't noticed it get worse with A/C, but i rarely use it, i'll try it with A/C tonight on the way home

docjim2 · #**133** (**permalink**) 06-17-2009, 09:45 AM

you know, maybe by the time I have my first tune up Honda will figure this out?!? Or maybe they already have and it is too expensive a recall.

Texas Coyote · #**134** (**permalink**) 06-17-2009, 11:51 AM

I have hear my car do this a couple of time in about one second while cruising at 60 MPH on a flat strait road. I also had a problem with it not wanting to idle after shutting it off at a restaurant on the same trip..... I had recently filled up with Ethanol added fuel. I added some fuel additive at my next refuelling and haven't noticed it occurring since....

jdzz · #**135** (**permalink**) 06-23-2009, 11:18 AM

Has anybody figure out the solution for this? My Fit started around 40k miles. Now at 51k, it's getting worst. The average mpg is 27 down from 33. This is my first new Honda and I am a little disappointed. First the steering, then this stutter problem. All of our other cars are used Honda, Nissan, and Toyota. So far, they don't have anything like this. Has Honda's quality going down? Heck, even my 1 year old Honda mower has problem that was fixed under warranty.

Rob22315 · #**136** (**permalink**) 06-23-2009, 09:14 PM

Yes, it's probably a coil pack going bad. Get one new one and swap it in/out of the plugs until you find the bad one.

Texas Coyote · #**137** (**permalink**) 06-23-2009, 11:50 PM

Before going to a dealer at least pull the plugs to see how they look.... At 51000 miles of driving in an area as congested as Houston they are probably in need of replacement, and if a coil pack is going bad there might be some evidence of which of them it is by looking at and comparing the plugs.

koolkevin1107 · #**138** (**permalink**) 06-24-2009, 02:42 AM

You can't tell the difference between a good coil and a bad coil. If u pull it out, it looks identical to a new one. I've compared them and thre is no difference. The part that failed is located underneath the potted area of the coil pack and it's not visible.

Texas Coyote · #**139** (**permalink**) 06-24-2009, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by koolkevin1107

You can't tell the difference between a good coil and a bad coil. If u pull it out, it looks identical to a new one. I've compared them and thre is no difference. The part that failed is located underneath the potted area of the coil pack and it's not visible.

That's a fact and even with an ohm meter the coil winding has to be completely broken to show that it is defective..... I certainly didn't say that it was possible to look at the coil to see if it was defective, did I?

mahout · #**140** (**permalink**) 06-24-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote

Before going to a dealer at least pull the plugs to see how they look.... At 51000 miles of driving in an area as congested as Houston they are probably in need of replacement, and if a coil pack is going bad there might be some evidence of which of them it is by looking at and comparing the plugs.

Great advice. cheers.