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I really don't know what you are trying to imply with these comments, I think the stock ignition system and ECU signals work fine in a Honda. If your O2 sensor has faultering voltage to it you have bigger problems that can't be fixed by this kind of product. I also have yet to see a real race car that uses a voltage stabilizer. (unless lets say it is owned by a company that is pumping such products)
I am not making this personal, I am just disagreeing with you... very strongly. Why? Because I feel your posts are misleading to other Fitfreaks about this product.
You have your right to an opinion, as do I. Unless I see some kind of real proof these things work I am of the opinion they are a gimmick.
I posted this because of people like you who mislead people into believing that you are smarter than the inventors and sway people away from products that accually work. If I didn't get better mpg or found that I could easily start off in second gear I would have never subjected myself to self rightous people as you. I personally don't give a ripp for rep points or peoples opinion I just come here to read the experience of different products and their outcome as I have enjoyed reading your poor dyno results and did not buy that WR intake because of it.
Like I said before, I disagree with you about this product. It needed to be said and now when people read your opinion they can have an equal opportunitiy to read mine below it.
I firmly believe you believe it gave your car power, if you ask me you are being truthful about your expereince. But put it on a dyno and you will get no difference between having it on and having it off. I would encourage you to go through the expereince yourself.
I am glad you enjoyed reading my poor dyno results, it should really hammer home the point to you about just how hard it is to actually get 2hp out of your car.
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 03-06-2009 at 01:46 PM.
Like I said before, I disagree with you about this product. It needed to be said and now when people read your opinion they can have an equal opportunitiy to read mine below it.
I am glad you enjoyed reading my poor dyno results, it should really hammer home the point to you about just how hard it is to actually get 2hp out of your car.
Haha, I said it feels like not actually. You better start reading better before you start calling people BS.
There is no point in a continued arguement unless you can prove beyond a resonable doubt it works... and no, in this case manufactures claims and subjective observations don't meet that requirement.
You are right, I didn't spend 100+ dollars on a product that I believe is snake oil, nor to I plan to. I have seen these products around and heard opinions from more than just you... most of them are "It makes no difference". You will have to forgive me if I am sketptical and standoff-ish when it comes to people who claim they work.
I can't prove it doesn't work, you can't prove it does; you have a favorable opinion of the product, yet the theory behind it is weak at best.
This is where we are at.
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 03-06-2009 at 04:31 PM.
There is no point in a continued arguement unless you can prove beyond a resonable doubt it works... and no, in this case manufactures claims and subjective observations don't meet that requirement.
Sun hyper voltage stabilizer have actual Dynos. The shop I bought from had some too.I shared that with you earlier but, you dismissed it because you're to into yourself.
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You are right, I didn't spend 100+ dollars on a product that I believe is snake oil, nor to I plan to. I have seen these products around and heard opinions from more than just you... most of them are "It makes no difference". You will have to forgive me if I am sketptical and standoff-ish when it comes to people who claim they work.
Yes boss, coming from the person who spent the most on their car and yet is the slowest car on this site.We all believe you.
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I can't prove it doesn't work, you can't prove it does; you have a favorable opinion of the product, yet the theory behind it is weak at best.
Yes, you said that time and time again. This thread is for people who tried the product not scorned people lashing out at every new thing that comes out. You should be focusing on Leo at WR not fighting to get the last say in for something you have no expertise in.
Sun hyper voltage stabilizer have actual Dynos. The shop I bought from had some too.I shared that with you earlier but, you dismissed it because you're to into yourself.
Yes boss, coming from the person who spent the most on their car and yet is the slowest car on this site.We all believe you.
Yes, you said that time and time again. This thread is for people who tried the product not scorned people lashing out at every new thing that comes out. You should be focusing on Leo at WR not fighting to get the last say in for something you have no expertise in.
This is where we are at.
If the product is a scam, the product maker is obviously going to push fake dyno's... it needs to be verified by a 3rd party to be valid. This isn't me being too into myself, it is conclusion drawn using logic. Did you think they would provide dyno's that don't show a gain? Of course not, they wouldn't sell products that way.
Last time I checked this was a Voltage stablizer thread dedicated to the debate about the validity of these products. If you are trying to discredit me by attacking my other posts, my car and modification choices I suggest you re-evalute your strategy.
You decided to post your personal experence in the middle of it, please don't start freaking out when people give you critical feedback about it. If you want a thread where everybody is going to pat you on the back you are more than welcome to create a review thread about how great it is. I promise not to post a single reply in it.
Again, this thread is dedicated to this debate. If you are getting pissed off people have other opinions, please leave
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 03-06-2009 at 07:31 PM.
If the product is a scam, the product maker is obviously going to push fake dyno's... it needs to be verified by a 3rd party to be valid. This isn't me being too into myself, it is conclusion drawn using logic. Did you think they would provide dyno's that don't show a gain? Of course not, they wouldn't sell products that way.
Last time I checked this was a Voltage stablizer thread dedicated to the debate about the validity of these products. If you are trying to discredit me by attacking my other posts, my car and modification choices I suggest you re-evalute your strategy.
You decided to post your personal experence in the middle of it, please don't start freaking out when people give you critical feedback about it. If you want a thread where everybody is going to pat you on the back you are more than welcome to create a review thread about how great it is. I promise not to post a single reply in it.
Again, this thread is dedicated to this debate. If you are getting pissed off people have other opinions, please leave
I posted this because of people like you who mislead people into believing that you are smarter than the inventors and sway people away from products that accually work. If I didn't get better mpg or found that I could easily start off in second gear I would have never subjected myself to self rightous people as you. I personally don't give a ripp for rep points or peoples opinion I just come here to read the experience of different products and their outcome as I have enjoyed reading your poor dyno results and did not buy that WR intake because of it.
I have a dealer stock '09 Fit Base. It easily will start from third. Your point was???
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