Scoop Intake Build - Page 2

Slimjimx701x · #21 (**permalink**) 04-24-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Fit

Depending on the resin you use and the type of carbon, but you should be good with 2 or 3 layers of carbon. I use a lot of 8 harness satin weave since it is very strong and has a nice dense weave.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Would a high density foam with a coat of Bondo be strong enough to create a vacuum mold? And is it possible to clay to to do the same thing? If possible what kind of clay would you recommend? I'm planning to use clay on the trim to give a better shape and cruve for the scoop and Foam/Bondo combo for the airbox.

Thanks...I hope I didn't take any of carbon fiber secrets

Rogue Fit · #22 (**permalink**) 04-24-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Slimjimx701x

Thanks for the quick reply.

Would a high density foam with a coat of Bondo be strong enough to create a vacuum mold? And is it possible to clay to to do the same thing? If possible what kind of clay would you recommend? I'm planning to use clay on the trim to give a better shape and cruve for the scoop and Foam/Bondo combo for the airbox.

Thanks...I hope I didn't take any of carbon fiber secrets

I wouldn't recommend foam or clay for the actual mold. You need to figure that while vacuum bagging the carbon you are trying to pull around 1 bar, which will place around 14 psi on the surface of the mold. I don't know if the foam would hold up and at least the modeling clay I use for some things, will move around unless it is well supported. I would recommend a little fiberglass and resin for your molds, and it doesn't need to be real thick.
For modeling your parts, I like to use polyurethane foam. This stuff will cut, sand, shape really easy. It comes in full sheets but since you are doing smaller parts you can even go to a craft store and pick up that green foam people stick flowers in. Another good point about this foam is that it won't melt if you paint it or put resin right over it.
So I like to shape the part in foam, spray it with high build primer, and then use a little bondo as needed, and a little modeling clay can help for final touches.
Please keep us posted as to progress.

Slimjimx701x · #23 (**permalink**) 04-24-2009, 07:55 PM

Thanks alot for the pointer. As for now, I'm taking a little break, to rethink on how to design the box itself....the filter size is giving me a bit of issue, if i want to make it for a "x" brand, i need to figure out how much room I'm going to need.

TurboManGT · #24 (**permalink**) 04-24-2009, 10:05 PM

Funny I was just thinking about this the other day when I got Rogues scoop installed. I'll be checking this thread often. Good luck slimjim!!!

Slimjimx701x · #25 (**permalink**) 04-26-2009, 05:08 AM

Started to work on the scoop again

some basic ideas and some high density to practice...

fairly quick

test fitting and "fine tuning"

On for the real thing

ALOT slower....

testing fitting

basic shape...may need to go in again (not really. IMO adds a more character to it)

getting started to shaping it

planning to finish up the whole shaping tomorrow...I hope

Slimjimx701x · #26 (**permalink**) 04-27-2009, 12:51 AM

Starting to finishing up the scoop part of the project...

I may sand up the rear a bit more....it look a bit fat

blackfity · #27 (**permalink**) 04-27-2009, 01:50 AM

Looking forward to seeing the final product...subscribed...

Slimjimx701x · #28 (**permalink**) 04-29-2009, 01:35 AM

Update:

Went in and sand down the rear a bit to give a better feel (at least to me) and resize the scoop to "fit" better.

TIGHT FIT...about 1mm gap on the left side of it

Plans for next time:

1. Email, Apex-i for the measurements of the filter of the Fit. 70mm inlet size, but I lack the cone size.
2.Start working on the airbox, using that wood piece, made earlier, as base
3. Continue sanding, smoothing and fine-tuning the scoop.

Slimjimx701x · #29 (**permalink**) 04-29-2009, 11:25 PM

TIME TO START OVER

, I ended up not liking on how it look.

Will continue after my roadtrip to LA....

Hint: Going to make the design ALOT simpler...the way the OEM cowl is design, make is hard to match the lines.

danger69 · #30 (**permalink**) 04-30-2009, 01:18 AM

I have an apexi filter what dimensions do you need?

Slimjimx701x · #31 (**permalink**) 04-30-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by danger69

I have an apexi filter what dimensions do you need?

Wow, that's great.

I need the diameter of the backplate, and hight of it (without the inlet)

Thanks.

danger69 · #32 (**permalink**) 05-02-2009, 10:32 PM

Sorry for the delay in the dimensions. The height of the filter without the adaptor plate is 5". The diameter of the backplate is 3". I'm thinking about modifying my stock intake to accomodate the apexi filter.

Slimjimx701x · #33 (**permalink**) 05-03-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by danger69

Sorry for the delay in the dimensions. The height of the filter without the adaptor plate is 5". The diameter of the backplate is 3". I'm thinking about modifying my stock intake to accomodate the apexi filter.

Thanks for the specs.

PM Shaggs2Dope and SHG_Mike about the moding the intake box. On mines, I just remove the baffle with a hacksaw (not as a clean of a job when compare to SHG_Mike's airbox) and I gain quite a bit at top end (Butt dyno)

EDIT: Wow the diameter is small...may makes the build a lot easier. Again thanks for the specs.

xtreme · #34 (**permalink**) 05-03-2009, 03:56 PM

This is freaken awesome stuff! dont give up dude! Keep us posted!

Slimjimx701x · #35 (**permalink**) 05-04-2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xtreme

This is freaken awesome stuff! dont give up dude! Keep us posted!

Don't worry, I'll keep everyone updated. I just need to plan better for the scoop.

The current issue I'm having right now, is when the scoop is on the cowl the lines of the cowl (the bend up right before the wipers) makes a close "v" or "W" shape.

I want to fill up that "V" space on the far right side (from Driver's POV) and behind the main scoop

I want to be able to smooth that out

What I have plan now....still figuring out how to make it work (and easy), I'm going to borrow the Spoon Hardtop idea where you have the main hardtop to function as the top and an addon piece to make it more aerodynamic

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Me...ardtop_ap1.jpg (borrow from evasivemotorsports to show what I mean)

So back AGAIN to the drawing board

EDIT: How the heck my rep jump from 3 to 320?!?

omfgitshimm · #36 (**permalink**) 05-04-2009, 05:07 PM

are there any available turbos for the 2007 fit?

Slimjimx701x · #37 (**permalink**) 05-05-2009, 04:01 AM

So, I started out planning for the redesign scoop

Just overlapped the old one

trimed off the center part for the hole of the intake

seeing how would the scoop be mounted on....NOT enough trim left to build the scoop

Got angry so I begun working on the airbox, esp when I have the specs now

The inlet is 70mm on the Apex-i filter, so I made a 70mm hole and trim a little and little out to fit out rubber conector

Great measurements. 3inch diameter backplate on the Apex-i IS smaller than what I had for test fitting (5-6inch backplate), and the hight is the SAME for both filter. I guess I lucked out

Nice to have extra room. I may want to add a few cruve out from the box, so it won't be just a box. Maybe it would improve air intake? IDK

So far so good. The building of the airbox is so much easier then the scoop. LOL

Slimjimx701x · #38 (**permalink**) 05-07-2009, 01:24 AM

Didn't do too much

So I got some measurements of that mockup airbox I made, decides to play around with the shape....a plain box seem too boring

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So I came up with the idea if I just round out the edges and cruve up the top. This make make it harder to make that ducting from the cowl to the box, but it should look cooler. ATM I still have not decided yet to do anything more to the box, due to the filter layout, it seems the plan box is perfect. In fact I may even just work with just the inside of the "plan jane" by adding "filter" so the air is forced into the intake, but that I need to have the filter in hand. LOL.

nxtfit_08 · #39 (**permalink**) 05-07-2009, 03:04 AM

looking good man cant wait to see it when you get done and btw are you going to be makeing more than just 1? or are going to makr them by order? and how much?

and just as a suggestion you should make a clip on plat so when you wash the car and when it rains

Slimjimx701x · #40 (**permalink**) 05-07-2009, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nxtfit_08

looking good man cant wait to see it when you get done and btw are you going to be makeing more than just 1? or are going to makr them by order? and how much?

Me personally, I'm just going to make one. I planned to pass the molds/models over to someone better than me

. So ATM I do not know if I were to sell them and how much. Odds are, if I do sell them I do not think most people are willing to relocate the battery.

PLUS I do like to have a part that ONLY I have

...at least for awhile

EDIT: thanks for the tip