I just replaced the MC in my GE with a different MC. Now the car drives a lot better. It takes a lot more finesse to get the clutch to slip. It's more of an on-off switch now than before. It doesn't slip the clutch for you.

 

Stolen from my thread on HondaSwap.

2009 Fit (ge8) Clutch Delay Valve

 

Have one sitting in the cart at ClubRSX. How long did it take you to change it out, knowing that it would probably take longer on the LHD model being that it all resides behind the airbox? Did you go ahead and change the clutch line to a braided stainless while you changed out the master cylinder as well?

No longer in cart, just ordered it.

 

It took me about 3 hours.

It was all behind the airbox on mine too. I didn't change out the clutch soft-line with a stainless steel braid line, because I have never noticed a difference with them in the past.

 

Well then it should take a bit shorter time for me then. I'm RHD and no airbox in my way. Yeah I think they are a bit gimmicky compared to braided brake lines, but they do follow that same train of thought of the rubber expanding when engaged.

I just hope that the master cylinder is the same between the USDM and JDM model. I would be quite surprised if it is not, but only time will tell.

 

Please, oh please tell me this will also work on a GD! If it will I know what I'm doing next weekend.

 

I have no idea. I only did the measurements for the GE8. YMMV.

Best way to find out would be to buy a new OEM MC for the GD3, then buy the OPMC and compare outside of the car. It's what I did.

 

Or call a dealership and ask them if the part number for the 08 and 09 Fit master cylinder is the same.

But after a quick referencing of Majestic Honda's site they are different.

 

Of course they are different Oh well, what are ya gonna do?

 

Well, since that's the case I am glad I am used to mine the way it is. https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

 

My dad drove my modified GE8, then drove his unmodified GE8, and couldn't drive his anymore.

 

My 37 year old son screams like a little bitch every time he's ridden in my Fit and he grew up riding on the back of some fast motorcycles and some fast cars.

 

Quick update guys:

I've had no issues at all. No leaks, no problems, the car just drives like a normal car.

 

I wouldn't say it drives like a normal car with the Omni Power. As you've said, the clutch pedal is much heavier/stiffer even though I have sufficient freeplay, and don't ride the clutch. ...The tendency to shift faster and accidentally drive much faster is rather surprising--I end up tailgating quite often now.

 

How difficult was this mod? I'm wondering how hard is it really to keep the CDV. If I drive more conservatively/easy on the car will the CDV affect the ride?

I'm under the impression that when you are trying to push the car and go fast the CDV will be a hindrance.

I'm looking into buying a M/T fit and this is something I'm worried about.. stuttery shifts + clutch wear you can't do anything about unless you address the valve.

 

Not hard. It's relatively easy if you're mechanically inclined unlike me. Leaving in the CDV means having to time shifts slowly and not putting torque to the ground especially from 1st to 2nd. It's OK if you don't mind people tailgating you from full stops, or if you drive for fuel economy--not that the MT GE's gearing is great for fuel economy. Learning the timing is not quite overreving and dropping the clutch, but it is timing as the there is very little to no feel of clutch engagement.



Working alone, I wasted about 5 hrs total including much overhead, like walking to the hardware store for a hose for bleeding, walking there again for a longer clutch pedal adjustment bolt, bleeding twice, etc. I spent about an hour stripping the original hard line from the original CMC before getting out locking pliers, and another hour trying to get the slightly smaller OmniPower CMC in (after forgetting to align the hose and torque down the flex hose). It went in smoothly the first time, I realized I forget to tighten, then it took an hour to get in again.



Pull air filter box, pull battery, pull air intake, unbolt and move aside the clutch reservoir, and it's almost completely clear to the CMC & hydraulic lines.

With some rags under the hard line, use flare wrenches or locking pliers to remove and replace the hard line. Add the flex soft hose, new CMC, new CMC spacer, and expensive old paper gasket facing the firewall. Orienting the hoses toward the front of the vehicle seemed to work best, but I also had a hard time get it in at all.

A clean new 3/16 in ID hose fitted snuggly on the bleeder nipple, but not so well the second time--I left some air in the system the first time.
Reinstall intake, battery, and air filter.



A restriction (valve) exists under the OEM CMC's plastic nipple to the reservoir. A 3/32 in (2.38 mm) drill bit is likely good enough, but there could be another valve elsewhere.

 

Good info! You've got a GD3 or GE8?

 

You do realize that braided clutch line and braided brake line are the same exact thing right? How could it be a gimmick for one application an not the other? Hardline would be best but is impractical because of the flex needed between the slave being mounted to the transmission and the master mounted to the firewall. You could always run hardline all the way up to the master with a short amount of stainless line before connecting to the master. IMO if there is going to be expansion in the line it won't matter how short or long that line is.

There is a thread going on in great detail about removing the clutch delay on the GD3 here: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...ine-forum.html

 

The MT is a 09 GE.


ED: I looked at the other thread. From the Honda GD CMC schematic, I suspect the GD valve design is the same, and will upload a before-drilling photo tonight.


ED: Photos linked. Also, to be more explicit, the hole diameter should probably be 2.50 mm, and that's why 3/32 in (2.38 mm) is likely good enough.

By mkchiu at 2010-05-26


By mkchiu at 2010-05-26

 

Hey mkchiu please keep us updated and let us know if the drilling works! The CDV has annoyed me from day 1.