Anyone heard of zage turbo kits?
#5
#6
well, i've seen the kit once. when it was being installed to some guy's car. looks preety decent. and the shop owner says that it is not that bad as far as power goes. Doesn't really that much difference with HKS kit. But I don't know about the reliability though...
#8
i could see if we were dealing with 15 year old $500 Honda/Acura motors that we could replace when a turbo hand grenades, but i don't wanna be coming outta pocket $1500+ for another L15 because i wanted to cut corners and get a cheap turbo. You can go cheap on stuff when buying a turbo kit, you just can't go cheap on a turbo. I'm speaking from personal experience with this one, don't get a cheap turbo, it's not worth it in the end.
#9
How much experience?
You should amend that to "Don't buy a knock off turbo"
Nothing wrong with a cheap turbo. Quality components are what you should be worried about, and in many cases with experience you'll find that price =/= quality.
But you enjoy taking out a second mortgage for your non-rebuildable Garrett/PTE/Turbonetics BB CHRAs.
I'll out-spool and out-last you with a comparable JB centersection BW/Holset, that may need a thrust bearing replaced for $150 every 100k miles boosting 40psi with EGTs through the roof the whole way.
Ask all the pro-mod guys who've been blowing up PTE's garbage hot side housings, and those are not cheap by any means. The sheisters at PTE tried blaming the GT55 turbine wheel for it too!
Whether or not the wheel failed, your undercut housing is still supposed to contain the f*cker.
You should amend that to "Don't buy a knock off turbo"
Nothing wrong with a cheap turbo. Quality components are what you should be worried about, and in many cases with experience you'll find that price =/= quality.
But you enjoy taking out a second mortgage for your non-rebuildable Garrett/PTE/Turbonetics BB CHRAs.
I'll out-spool and out-last you with a comparable JB centersection BW/Holset, that may need a thrust bearing replaced for $150 every 100k miles boosting 40psi with EGTs through the roof the whole way.
Ask all the pro-mod guys who've been blowing up PTE's garbage hot side housings, and those are not cheap by any means. The sheisters at PTE tried blaming the GT55 turbine wheel for it too!
Whether or not the wheel failed, your undercut housing is still supposed to contain the f*cker.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 04-26-2012 at 01:24 PM.
#10
i totally agree, don't buy a "knock off turbo" or one from Taiwan made with shitty parts that won't let you push 6psi before it grenades.
as for experience....only 10 years of owning turbo cars which isn't much, but i've owned quite a few and built them. I've boosted everything from my 325ci, SRT4, a few Civics, my FC, SVT focus and even a ZX6r.
as for experience....only 10 years of owning turbo cars which isn't much, but i've owned quite a few and built them. I've boosted everything from my 325ci, SRT4, a few Civics, my FC, SVT focus and even a ZX6r.
Last edited by sfar785; 04-26-2012 at 04:57 PM.
#11
a word of question: i don't think the zage kit or HKS blot-on kit for that matter is designed to push high pressure? definitely not higher then our puny L15 internals can handle, which i reckon is not much? blame it on the smallish intake valve i guess... and our weak-ass block... which i've somehow managed to chip the bastard...
#12
Well it is an economy based engine....not a performance one. One way to look at it is back in the eighties 5 liter mustangs made around 120-140 hp, and they handled like farm tractors. I think the L15 just in software (tuning) there's at least 15-20 hp to be made.
#14
Right?!
"Well it is an economy based car....not a performance one."
say that to spoon and J's Racing, and all the other hundreds of tuners.
#15
Fox body GTs put out ~ 225 hp, and will make way more power just by looking at them sideways. The L15 is pretty much optomized for a 1.5L SOHC. Boost or crack open the motor and change internals is your only hope.
#17
E85, 16:1CR slugs, a big cam, sheet metal intake manifold and a ton of timing = >100whp/liter NA Fit
Oh wait.. GD only, sorry guys.
Bwahaha
If the exhaust manifold wasnt integrated into the GE cylinder head, there would be significantly more you could do to squeeze out some power or shift the power band.
Oh wait.. GD only, sorry guys.
Bwahaha
If the exhaust manifold wasnt integrated into the GE cylinder head, there would be significantly more you could do to squeeze out some power or shift the power band.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 04-27-2012 at 03:28 PM.
#18
I would love 16:1 9k L15.
#19
E85, 16:1CR slugs, a big cam, sheet metal intake manifold and a ton of timing = >100whp/liter NA Fit
Oh wait.. GD only, sorry guys.
Bwahaha
If the exhaust manifold wasnt integrated into the GE cylinder head, there would be significantly more you could do to squeeze out some power or shift the power band.
Oh wait.. GD only, sorry guys.
Bwahaha
If the exhaust manifold wasnt integrated into the GE cylinder head, there would be significantly more you could do to squeeze out some power or shift the power band.