What is it that makes an aftermarket exhaust create more power on the dyno v. the stock exhaust? If the reason relates to the aftermarket exhaust having less restriction, then whouldn't just removing the stock muffler yield the highest power gains???
I have been running my manual GD3 without a muffler for over a month and have noticed an increase in throttle responce and also better gas mileage. I have not run a dyno and can't say for sure that the gains I am "feeling" are not just a plesebo affect.
If Someone can validate what I am "Feeling" I'll keep the muffler off, add a CAI, and call it a day.
Thanks in advance for your help...
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2007 Honda Fit Sport 5pd...
Skunk2 Springs + Short Shifter
16" Konig Helium (12.0 lbs) in Cooper 205/45R16
Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors
15% tint
Custom CAI and Intake manifold Insulation
JDM Smoke Tail lights
What is it that makes an aftermarket exhaust create more power on the dyno v. the stock exhaust? If the reason relates to the aftermarket exhaust having less restriction, then whouldn't just removing the stock muffler yield the highest power gains???
I have been running my manual GD3 without a muffler for over a month and have noticed an increase in throttle responce and also better gas mileage. I have not run a dyno and can't say for sure that the gains I am "feeling" are not just a plesebo affect.
If Someone can validate what I am "Feeling" I'll keep the muffler off, add a CAI, and call it a day.
I have definitively felt a responce with no muff. I was going to put a picture here ( it is in the other tread) but somebody in my office put a restriction to image shack so no picture. I have a custom pipe made, so no smoked area under the car, instead I have a nice looking tip at the end.
Anyway it should be nice to somebody proove us wrong with a dyno sheet. ( we could be wrong, we are not perfect...almost!)
Anyway, my point is that I spend $90 in my custom pipe, and not 300-plus on a axle back. And I am shure that is less restrictive, and ligthweight...
please advise
__________________ Deleted muffler, Progress springs Sway Bar steel braided brake lines front strut tower brace Hawk pads konig heliums
Too much hard driving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuFKPyHSEY (track lap!!)
I have definitively felt a responce with no muff. I was going to put a picture here ( it is in the other tread) but somebody in my office put a restriction to image shack so no picture. I have a custom pipe made, so no smoked area under the car, instead I have a nice looking tip at the end.
Anyway it should be nice to somebody proove us wrong with a dyno sheet. ( we could be wrong, we are not perfect...almost!)
Anyway, my point is that I spend $90 in my custom pipe, and not 300-plus on a axle back. And I am shure that is less restrictive, and ligthweight...
please advise
Pics please! I would love to see pics of yours coz I might be doing the same to mine
And phillypino...damn youre crazy. hope u dont get pulled over... The turbo neon came with no muff from factory.... the law restrict you about the db level, and belive me it is not that loud. I can even pass emission test since I have my cat and even stock ressonator
__________________ Deleted muffler, Progress springs Sway Bar steel braided brake lines front strut tower brace Hawk pads konig heliums
Too much hard driving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuFKPyHSEY (track lap!!)
let's party!!!
Last edited by carlosalicea; 07-28-2006 at 11:21 AM.
And phillypino...damn youre crazy. hope u dont get pulled over... The turbo neon came with no muff from factory.... the law restrict you about the db level, and belive me it is not that loud. I can even pass emission test since I have my cat and even stock ressonator
It looks clean I was hoping for pictures that are far back from the rear so we could get an idea of how it really looks like
i used to make fun of the "rice guys", but i drive a honda now and i used to say i will never go to honda...F-it i will try this myself...the way motors are coming out now that sound problem will not be the same as in a D16 with no muffler...i heard the vid and it does not sound bad at all...as for us to rep that 109HP well we still got XBs, XAs, out there to race with their 106HP we are just having fun here guys and if anyone comes up with something bizarre well give them props...keep doing your thing man...
I haven't had any problems with heat, fumes, cops... I couldn't be happier
__________________ avosfit - The Short Bus
2007 Honda Fit Sport 5pd...
Skunk2 Springs + Short Shifter
16" Konig Helium (12.0 lbs) in Cooper 205/45R16
Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors
15% tint
Custom CAI and Intake manifold Insulation
JDM Smoke Tail lights
You are on the right path here you want less back pressure not more. Just look at any style racing do they put mufflers on to increase back pressure of course not. If you like the sound there is no reason to put on a muffler.
Thanks Claymore!!! Keep up the good work
__________________ avosfit - The Short Bus
2007 Honda Fit Sport 5pd...
Skunk2 Springs + Short Shifter
16" Konig Helium (12.0 lbs) in Cooper 205/45R16
Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors
15% tint
Custom CAI and Intake manifold Insulation
JDM Smoke Tail lights
You are on the right path here you want less back pressure not more. Just look at any style racing do they put mufflers on to increase back pressure of course not. If you like the sound there is no reason to put on a muffler.
Yea thanks. Now I just want to go solo-1 on the fit. I got a good price for the Helium Konigs and toyos , and already start to search the limits of the fit. And already have a scarry spin, but Here I am alone so parts will have to come really slow.Anyway will go to the autocross (solo-1) in stock form and as I am not luky to live , in cali or so (where the parts are been tested/developed/created) will go the hard way, and have fun like the poor man I am.
sorry for going of topic......NO MUFFLER AT ALL. PERIOD!!
__________________ Deleted muffler, Progress springs Sway Bar steel braided brake lines front strut tower brace Hawk pads konig heliums
Too much hard driving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuFKPyHSEY (track lap!!)
Anyone found any nice looking exhaust TIPS to use? I want to do as carlosalicea did any have a shop run piping from the axel to the rear bumper but I can't find any decent tips. I want a nice oval/dual circular tip setup.
Anyone found any nice looking exhaust TIPS to use? I want to do as carlosalicea did any have a shop run piping from the axel to the rear bumper but I can't find any decent tips. I want a nice oval/dual circular tip setup.
Mine is a Magnaflow oval ( not very big ) and it looks pretty clean. only it turn a little yellowish, but now it looks like if were kind of gold from the factory, wish looks coll on my Taffeta white......aaaa I live in Puerto Rico, so don,t know if the $55 I pay for the tip is much or not ( $55 was part of the total $90 I pay for the job )
Hope you find one that goes with your style!!!
__________________ Deleted muffler, Progress springs Sway Bar steel braided brake lines front strut tower brace Hawk pads konig heliums
Too much hard driving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuFKPyHSEY (track lap!!)
anyone got their car w/o muffler got a dyno on it?i wonder are there any hp increase on it and since some1 metioned the best muffler is w/o a muffler?do you think the hp gains will be more than a straight muffler like the N1 series.some muffler can give the car a 5hp gain and since youre runnig w/o one would the gain in hp be more.thinking of trying it myself too