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M3LVIN,

They are going to stick out of the wheel well. The wheels are pretty wide and the offset is low.
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Using 15X6.5 +38mm Rota Circuit 8's mounted to 195 55 15 Yokohama S.Drive tires dropped on T1R Springs and Struts I get a little bit of rubbing on hard corners and bigger dips in the road.
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I would try running a little more negative camber. You could also roll the fender lip. The offset on the wheel is just a little low with the car being lowered.
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will i rub with 195/50's on 15x6.5 +32? i'm dropped on progress springs. thanks.
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Jim, we will lower our GE8 with Tanabe DF210 springs. Will we have any rubbing issues with a 17x7 +43mm offset alloys on 205/40R-17 Bridgestone Potenza G 019 Grid XL tires?

Any issues going with a 205/45 x 17 tires? What brand of tires would you recommend that is all-season, quiet and exhibiting good thread wear?

TIA for your help.
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Ive been reading this thread for a while but i still have some questions.

I am looking at some 17x7 4x100 wheels. The offset isnt listed and I cant find it anywhere. For the ofset it says HPO, which i found stands for High Positive Offset.

But I wanted to know If anybody knew jow high. Cause I was planning on getting something with a +45 offset just to be on the safe side. Cause right now im stock suspension and will be moving to a spring/shock combo in a bit. I wasnt planning on dropping it to much, maybe with progress springs.

So my questions are what Is HPO? is there an acceptable range that it might be in when the manufacturer says that?

And also if I am plaaing on getting 17" what would be the best combo, i mean offset and tire size.

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Ive been reading this thread for a while but i still have some questions.

I am looking at some 17x7 4x100 wheels. The offset isnt listed and I cant find it anywhere. For the ofset it says HPO, which i found stands for High Positive Offset.

But I wanted to know If anybody knew jow high. Cause I was planning on getting something with a +45 offset just to be on the safe side. Cause right now im stock suspension and will be moving to a spring/shock combo in a bit. I wasnt planning on dropping it to much, maybe with progress springs.

So my questions are what Is HPO? is there an acceptable range that it might be in when the manufacturer says that?

And also if I am plaaing on getting 17" what would be the best combo, i mean offset and tire size.

TIA

DiscountTireDirect for years and TireRack lately has their offsets in the wheel designation. Look for 42 to 45 mm offset numbers. And of course you can always call and ask a rep what the offset is. If they don't know you don't want to do business with them anyway.
Our latest recommendation is 17x7/42 - 45 with 195/40 or 45x17 tires for the street. The 45 section tire is primarily for the 09 Fit, the 40 for b08 and prior. Offset 42 if stock height and 45 if lowered or stock height.
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mzamike,

You probably will rub with that low of an offset. You want to be in the low 40's.
If I can help let me know.
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DiscountTireDirect for years and TireRack lately has their offsets in the wheel designation. Look for 42 to 45 mm offset numbers. And of course you can always call and ask a rep what the offset is. If they don't know you don't want to do business with them anyway.
Our latest recommendation is 17x7/42 - 45 with 195/40 or 45x17 tires for the street. The 45 section tire is primarily for the 09 Fit, the 40 for b08 and prior. Offset 42 if stock height and 45 if lowered or stock height.
Ok, thanks for the info. I have looked on htose sites but they dont seem to carry this company. the company is Xtatik wheels, they are based here out of miami and it seems they arent very big right now. i guess Ill just call them up and ask.

Thanks so much.
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George1532,

You would want to be around 40 to 45 on the offset for the most clearance. You can stay with a narrower tire with the lower offset to give more room. You can also run more negative camber to get more clearance.
If I can help let me know.
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You would want to be around 40 to 45 on the offset for the most clearance. You can stay with a narrower tire with the lower offset to give more room. You can also run more negative camber to get more clearance.
If I can help let me know.
Ok cool, and when you say narrower tire do you ean go with a 195 instead of a 205?

or is 205 narrow enough.

damn just found out the offset is 40. Can I run that kind of ofset with 195's? will that work?

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George,

The 205/40R17 is the narrowest tire availalable in the 17".
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George,

The 205/40R17 is the narrowest tire availalable in the 17".
Fudge........I have found something on a website that i am happy with. Will this work:

Package Wheel Details - Discount Tire Direct

I think it says 38 offset but when I put in my make and model that come up.

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With the 205/40R17 you should still be fine with the 38mm. I looked at the drawings and they cleared. If I can help let me know.
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George, here is a thread detailing some of the 195/40 tires available in 17".
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The 205/40R17 is the narrowest tire availalable in the 17".
Seriously.....

There is a couple of 195/40/R17 sizes you can run, I ran one and not only that I orderd them off of Tirerack. I don't know why you would be telling people a 205/40/R17 is the narrowest when it isn't.

WHY?? (You may ask)
A: I ran it because I RUBBED LIKE CRAZY with a 205/40 +42 offset on a 17" rim. I highly highly reccomend a +45 offset or more for a 17" wheel.

YOU WILL RUB WITH A +38 17" TIRE UNLESS YOU CAMBER OUT OR ROLL THE FENDERS. Please stop reccomending these sizes to people without telling them that.

This is really starting to piss me off, you guys need to check your web site specs Jim. This has already cost me a lot of cash trying to get the proper tire size that does not rub, with lessons learned the hard way for me it doesn't have to cost everybody else too. I have already flagged this to you nicely previously. You guys need to be providing people with the correct information here.
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The 195/40R17 is a little low on load capacity so I don't recommend it.
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I am not trying to pick on you guys, but a +38 rim in a 17" size will rub with that reccomendation. I am not sure if it will rub with a 195/40, but if it was me I wouldn't put the money out to find out the hard way.

For a 17" rim, if people want to run without cambering or rolling fenders you are going to want to look at +45 or higher. Keep in mind the HFP 16' rims coming in a +55 offset.

Been there, done that, have the receipts and rub marks to prove it.

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The 195/40R17 is a little low on load capacity so I don't recommend it.
I am not sure what you are talking about, all 4 of the tires your web site offers in this size are sufficient

The Fit isn't exactly a heavy weight at 2500lbs-ish.

Even if you consider the front at 800lbs it isn't anywhere near the max load capcity... furthermore for tires that offer a 15" replacement the max load is similar.

Here I did some legwork;

Yokohama S.drive

Load Range = XL
195/40/17 max load = 1019lbs
195/50/15 max load = 1047lbs (this is what you would run on a stock wheel)

Pirelli PZero Nero

Load Range = XL
195/40/17 max load = 1019lbs

Continental ContiSportContact 3

Load Range = XL
Max Load per tire = 1019lbs

Continental ContiSportContact 2

Load Range = XL
Max Load per tire = 1019lbs
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The problem would be in liability though. If the tire fails and we sell a tire that does't have enough load capacity we would be liable.
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The problem would be in liability though. If the tire fails and we sell a tire that does't have enough load capacity we would be liable.

I don't understand, the stock tires have a very similar load rating?

What is the minimum load capacity reccomended for the Fit?
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