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Fair enough; if this is the correct reccomended weight given to you by Honda I will accept it.
However this brings up another question; the sizes which TireRack.com is reccomending for "Original Equipment Sizes" are as follows
2007 & 2008 Honda Fit
175/65/R14 = 1047lbs MAX (DOES NOT MEET THE LIABILITY STANDARD)
195/55/R15 = 1102lbs MAX
205/45/R16 = 1074lbs MAX (DOES NOT MEET THE LIABILITY STANDARD)
Now, let me drop the bomb that seals the deal;
Ok, so you are saying a 195/40/R17 with a 1019lbs max loading is too light... yet;
I am having a hard time understanding why, but I won't question it now that people can read through and know thier options.
What I would like to touch on again is your reccomendation for a 17" rim with a +38 offset. It won't work as I was stating before without modifications to the car if you want to use your "reccomended" tire size.
I think there should be a disclaimer on the Tirerack website when purchasing 17" rims under +42 offsets that you will likely have to camber or fender roll. It would save a lot of people the frusteration, money & time if the select-a-rim program you guys have would pick out more suitable rims with a higher offset. I know with smaller rim sizes there seems to be more and more flexibility; however Illusive (and others) also ran a 16" rim with a +42 offset which rubbed.
The main reason I am vigilant on this issue is because I had a tire shop sell me a set of 17" rims with a +42 offset and tell me it would work with a 205/40 tire. It didn't and after a few weeks of frusteration they finally took them back and gave me a set of +45 17" rims. I would like to see other people be informed of this before they commit to buying, as I said before my hard lesson can serve to help others in this case.
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 04-13-2009 at 03:05 PM.
I am having a hard time understanding why, but I won't question it now that people can read through and know thier options.
What I would like to touch on again is your reccomendation for a 17" rim with a +38 offset. It won't work as I was stating before without modifications to the car if you want to use your "reccomended" tire size.
I think there should be a disclaimer on the Tirerack website when purchasing 17" rims under +42 offsets that you will likely have to camber or fender roll. It would save a lot of people the frusteration, money & time if the select-a-rim program you guys have would pick out more suitable rims with a higher offset. I know with smaller rim sizes there seems to be more and more flexibility; however Illusive (and others) also ran a 16" rim with a +42 offset which rubbed.
The main reason I am vigilant on this issue is because I had a tire shop sell me a set of 17" rims with a +42 offset and tell me it would work with a 205/40 tire. It didn't and after a few weeks of frusteration they finally took them back and gave me a set of +45 17" rims. I would like to see other people be informed of this before they commit to buying, as I said before my hard lesson can serve to help others in this case.
I agree. I have 205/40x17's on 17x7/42 wheels and they don't rub. Our latest customrer couldn't use my, 205/40x17's on 17x7/42 wheels because they rubbed, not heavily, in the rear with two girls in the back seat.. Going to 195/40x17's cured all of the rubbing and made their Fit considerably quicker and got better mpg.
We think the reason is some Fits have softer rear springs and rub with a 'normal' load in the back seat. Although we have always recomnmended the AirLift shocks in the rear, we think it's mandatory if you go to any tire with diameter greater than 23.5" or you can go with 45 mm offset wheels.
We do tell people when they place the order. Even if they place the order online we will give a call. Every fitment we sell we will take it back if they rub on a stock application. If the car is lowered we can't guarantee the application. From tire to tire there are some tires that are wider than others.
We do tell people when they place the order. Even if they place the order online we will give a call. Every fitment we sell we will take it back if they rub on a stock application. If the car is lowered we can't guarantee the application. From tire to tire there are some tires that are wider than others.
That is good, verification of fitment by phone is always a nice quality procedure! You have my endorsement when it comes to doing that, catching mistakes or incorrect sizing early on saves everybody time & money!
I wasn't refering to lowered cars in all the ones I mentioned above btw, if you lower your car there is no guarantee... even with a +45 offset there is a very real chance you might get some minor rubbing with a 205/40/R17 tire if you lower.
Now, back to the 17" +38 reccomendation. I would strongly encourage you to not reccomend wheels less than +42 when wrapped in 205/40's. Even with tires that can vary in size (I believe up to 7.5% by DOT standards is acceptable) a +38 tire will rub on a stock setup without question. With +42 certain brands of tires are better than others, most people are reporting that 205/40 BFGoodrich & Falken tires seem to work with a +42 application while most others rub.
To be certain you are not going to rub with a stock setup a 17" rim wrapped in 205's a +45 or greater offset is ideal.
I realize this limits the number of rims available, but them's the breaks if you want to do it right.
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Also if anybody is interested I dedicated a thread to the "+45 lightweight" cause. It serves as a quick reference of
available rims for people who are seriously looking at lightweight wheels and don't want rubbing issues.
Hey there Rim gods, thanks for all your help previously.
This is what Im thinking, please gimme some opinions on if it might rub.
17x7 42mm with 205/40 i will try to find 195/40. i also was gonna get some eibach sport-line it drops 2.0 in the front and 1.8 in the rear. Im looking for a meaty drop but If its gonna rub Ill try for the pro-lines that are 1.6 front 1.4 rear. I dont ever have anybody in the back seat if that helps.
If you are going to drop it would be totally worth it to go with the 195's IMO.
I actually experienced a bit of rub when I dropped down a little bit less with +45 offset 17" rims and 205's. Here is a comparison between when I had 205's & 195's on the same rims actually; The 195's (left) even have a slightly reduced profile even though they are both 40 series because width is an aspect of profile. So be it looks or clearance the 195's will help you out
After I switched over to 195's I even ran auto cross with it which and didn't experience any problems. I pushed the car pretty hard too.
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 04-14-2009 at 11:51 PM.
Ok. I just bought new shoe. It was 17x7 | 205/40/17. My problem is my rear tire is rubbing every-time I drive in train crossing or up and down road. How can I fix this problem? Any idea? Pictures? DIY?
Anyway heres some pictures.
I notice that my tire is rubbing in the inner fender on the side of the screw and not the screw.
Please advise before I do some stupid things.
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Last edited by HazelHeart; 04-19-2009 at 12:56 PM.
this is for GE8
stock tires 185-55-16
want to put on rims that are 16x7, +38 offset
will they rub? stock height (planning for a mild drop with eibach Pro-kits or Tanabe NF210)
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