Fit Suspension & Brake ModificationsThreads discussing suspension and brake related modifications for the Honda Fit
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so, i installed this today. took about a whole 30 minutes, lol. easiest/most straight forward mod ive done.
lowered the car off the jacks, went for a test drive and could tell instantly the difference in turning.
but, i have a problem. im getting a creaking noise from the springs....which im not suprised about. the springs used to sit perfect in the rubber seat on the perch, now there are 3 bolts that are clearly in the way. the rubber seat now sits crooked on 3 bolt heads. my springs are installed correctly, and the bar is installed correctly with the bolts torqued to specs using a torque wrench.
does the rubber seat need to settle over the bolt heads?
does anyoen else have this problem?
can some one take a clear pic/close up pic of how the rubber seat is sitting on their bolts/spring perch?
You should start reading backward through this long thread. Many answers are there. Simplest cure- buy some short 3/8" dia. hex head bolts and drop them into the empty holes in the spring perches to level out the surface under the springs. But I and many others have the stock springs with no extra bolts, and there is no noise.
^i have the progress springs, not OEM...so you would think it should work perfect since they designed them both. lol
i really dont feel like reading through this entire thread. i searched it for the works "creak" and "noise" and came up with no answers except for some one quoteing somthing along the lines of
"the sway bar is perfect. its the install thats wrong"
well, i kjnow its not the install, its the crappy way the sway bar bolts in and now causes the spring to sit crooked on the perch.
and im not about to put bolts as a spacer ont eh other side of the perch, becuse then it would space the entire spring off the perch by about 1/4"....and that isnt a very good fix for the problem. the spring should be supported evenly underneath.
I never had noise on my sway bar. From the pics below you see where the bolts go and there is a little obstruction there. Just move that rubber piece.
This next pic is kinda far but you can see where the spring sits and the spring should not rest on the bolts. Some might argue that the springs are upside down, but they were installed by a professional mechanic.
^i have the progress springs, not OEM...so you would think it should work perfect since they designed them both. lol
i really dont feel like reading through this entire thread. i searched it for the works "creak" and "noise" and came up with no answers except for some one quoteing somthing along the lines of
"the sway bar is perfect. its the install thats wrong"
well, i kjnow its not the install, its the crappy way the sway bar bolts in and now causes the spring to sit crooked on the perch.
and im not about to put bolts as a spacer ont eh other side of the perch, becuse then it would space the entire spring off the perch by about 1/4"....and that isnt a very good fix for the problem. the spring should be supported evenly underneath.
Well, the fact is that there are over a hundred users with no noise problems- some have solved the problem in the ways suggested, but instead of solving your own problem, all you want to do is complain. Want some cheese with your w(h)ine?
^thank you for the pics.
in this pic i can clearly see how the rubber is slightly covering part of the holes that the sway bar bolts through....not much, but still "cutting off" the hole. now, the problem is that the bolt head is a few MM larger diameter than the hole...meaning that the hardware will be that much more intrusive of the spring sitting correctly.
as far as moving the rubber piece..it doesnt seem very movable since its locked in position by the center of the perch that protrudes through the center of the rubber.
as happy as i am with the function of the sway bar, i am displeased with progress for attaching it in such a way. i assume im not the only person with this problem since there is this product available: Upgraded Hardware Kit for Progress Rear Sway Bar#
and to think that progress sells this part with hardware that is known to not work, especially with the springs for this car, baffles my mind.
Well, the fact is that there are over a hundred users with no noise problems- some have solved the problem in the ways suggested, but instead of solving your own problem, all you want to do is complain. Want some cheese with your w(h)ine?
yes, i complain because a part should not be designed in such a way that it interferes with other critical parts of the car.
solve the ways suggested? by having to buy other parts to make it work? i payed for a product that consists of a bent bar and bolts...that were "designed" to be used with this car. i dont feel that i shoudl need to spend another $20 for bolts to fit a part that the manufactuer should be aware of not working correctly.
to solve my problem, i will be contacting progress and asking about a replacemnt set of shallow head bolts be sent ot me and future shipments of their sway bar.
and as far as other people having no noise problems...your won quote:
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You should start reading backward through this long thread. Many answers are there. Simplest cure- buy some short 3/8" dia. hex head bolts and drop them into the empty holes in the spring perches to level out the surface under the springs. But I and many others have the stock springs with no extra bolts, and there is no noise.
not everyone had a noise free install....or else you wouldnt have known of this half assed fix for the problem.
What did Progress tell you when you called and asked for their advice??? Hmm?
You have convinced yourself that your problem has no solution, so that is true for you. Other people with noise from after-market springs convinced themselves that it could be solved, and that was true for them.
With your attitude, car customization is a bad choice of a hobby. After-market parts almost always require a little ingenuity for a perfect fit. Not the Progress bar. So far, you ARE the only one with a noise problem. Everybody else has figured it out without complaining.
What did Progress tell you when you called and asked for their advice??? Hmm?
You have convinced yourself that your problem has no solution, so that is true for you. Other people with noise from after-market springs convinced themselves that it could be solved, and that was true for them.
With your attitude, car customization is a bad choice of a hobby. After-market parts almost always require a little ingenuity for a perfect fit. Not the Progress bar. So far, you ARE the only one with a noise problem. Everybody else has figured it out without complaining.
um...what?! you need to stop contradicting yourself...its not a good look.
i AM NOT the only person that has had this problem. if i was there wouldnt be panducky selling kits of bolts to solve the problem.
i KNOW what the solution is, and i find it rediculous that a company sells a product that doesnt fit with their hardware and ANOTHER comapny picks up the slack and sells a product to correct it. its not that big of a deal to from now on simply supply different bolts with the sway bar that dont interfere...it probobly wont even cost them anything else. i just dont see how this can be an oversight, but rather ignored when they were designing it. it is very clear that there is a problem with how the spring sits on the perch now.
i am currently waiting on a reply from my email to progress...and i did not ask them for advice on how to fix it, but rather a solution (that they should supply). i told them what their problem was, as well as provide pictures for clarification. i will post up the conversation when i get a response.
as far as not meant for car modding as my hobby...i have done plenty of mods to the fit as well as my 06 Si when i had it. and suprisingly, all the mods i bought from well know manufacturers (as i would expect "ebay quality" from cheap parts) fit just as they should. there is nothing custom about "bolt on" (<--key word there) parts that need ingenuity to fit.
now...if your done bickering and telling people that they never had a problem...can people who did have any noises after the sway bar install, please post up.
You are the only one with a noise problem- everyone else has found a solution. The bar was perfectly made for stock Fits. Those who had noise with stock cars found that they had left something loose- bar bolts or shock mounts. After that, no noise. People with non-stock springs who had noise used various ways to solve the issue. None of them blamed Progress, and none of them wasted their time screaming and yelling on the forums.
You are the only one with a noise problem- everyone else has found a solution. The bar was perfectly made for stock Fits. Those who had noise with stock cars found that they had left something loose- bar bolts or shock mounts. After that, no noise. People with non-stock springs who had noise used various ways to solve the issue. None of them blamed Progress, and none of them wasted their time screaming and yelling on the forums.
care to say that again?
i still dont understand how people that DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM...found a solution. a solution to what?
please elaborate.
while doing that, read up on the other posts that agree that there is a problem with the way the bar is fastened to the perch.
BTW, are you a rep for progress? you certainly defend them like you are.
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Originally Posted by Wave
Anyone try to install this bar with T1R coilovers?
I just took a quick look under my car and it seems that the adjustable spring perches won't sit right after the bolts are tightened down on the bar.
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Originally Posted by radareclipse
Did you reuse the rubber spring perch mount on the bottom of the coil spring. This should give you enough give and go to get the spring to sit properly. Any spring wonn't sit absolutely perfect after installing the bar in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by jeffquach
well it looks like i have to get the hardware kit...installed it but had lots of noise. handled great though. now the wait continues.....
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Originally Posted by HondaFitted2007
i just installed the sway bar and wow, it makes a difference
but
as soon as i drove it outta my garage there was some banging noise every time i hit a bump and i couldn't figure y it was doin that....so i decided i'll take it to a shop or something and let them check it out tommorow so i drove somewhere and the sound went away completely and then on the way home i went through my neighborhood for turns and speed bumps and only on speed bumps the sound comes up
my buddy said to just wait and let it settle for a week and see if the sounds still comes up, but that could be bad if something serious is wrong
i hav no idea wuts wrong...any suggestions?? and did anyone have the same problem??
^im glad all these people feel alright that they had to pay for more hardware that should have been supplied with the kit, but i feel that progress shoudl correct the problem, rather than let is slide.
OK, your problem is permanent and without a solution, but it didn't come from Progress. Get a refund from Progress, and buy either of the available front sway bar replacement kits- Battle Endless or T1R.. We will all wait for you to tell us how defective they are. All you did was list some of the solutions other people have found, instead of finding your own solution.
^you have an extremely hard time nderstanding that I FOUND THE SOLUTION! lol
please reread that sentance, as well as my other posts. i not wondering what the problem/solution is.
i just feel that progress should give different hardware that will not interfere with ANYONES car. im glad it worked for some, but it didnt work for others. wouldnt it be beneficial on pregress' part to supply hardware that works with everyones cars? all it takes is sending out new kits with different type of bolts.
and no, i will not be getting a front sway bar in place of my rear sway bar(as i do not want understeer), i will be keeping the progress and fixing the problem (hopefully at progress' expense). and im sure the T1r bar wouldnt cause any problems because it bolts up to the stock positions of the OEM sway bar, whereas progress decided to bolt theirs up where the spring needs to sit.
and i would like to add...this is a public forum. where people are allowed to voice their opinions, experiences, prolems, solutions, suggestions, etc.
you may be seeing this as a "bitching" post, but some one else (who doesnt think that progress is the end all product) may see this and think twice about getting this and having 100% no problems then be suprised when they have an annoying creaking and need to wait 1 week for new bolts to be shipped.
as i wish i knew about this when i ordered the bar...i would have been at the hardware store getting bolts before teh install or ordered them with the sway bar.
wow. on that note, im done with responding to you. youve been more than useless to the problem and are now relying on your childish insults to fall back on since you have nothing to contribute to the topic.
Pre-assembly, I soaked everything down with LPS III whick leaves a waxy coating, then when it was all installed I sprayed it all down with LPS III again. It does sit in there funny, I'm not wild about that, but I guess we will all see in the long run if it is an actual problem. Probably not. I'd pick your favorite lubricant, spray the springs off at a car wash and just soak it all down on both sides with something slippery. If that cures the squeek without having to disassemble, then even WD-40 that leaves a coating would help.
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Dennis
08 Sport 5MT SSM
PRM JetStream Intake
Megan Racing Dual-Outlet Muffler
Progress Auto Rear Anti-Sway Bar
Yoko AVID V4S 205-55-15 on Drag D-24
"There's roads, there's roads, and they call, can you hear it? Roads of the Earth and roads of the Spirit. Best roads of all are the ones that aren't certain; one of those is where you'll find me 'till they drop the big curtain."
Pre-assembly, I soaked everything down with LPS III whick leaves a waxy coating, then when it was all installed I sprayed it all down with LPS III again. It does sit in there funny, I'm not wild about that, but I guess we will all see in the long run if it is an actual problem. Probably not. I'd pick your favorite lubricant, spray the springs off at a car wash and just soak it all down on both sides with something slippery. If that cures the squeek without having to disassemble, then even WD-40 that leaves a coating would help.
the day i installed them i coated both the rubber bushings in silicon spray, as well as the perch so that i would have alittle play to slide the spring off of the bolt heads before i placed the entire cars wieght on the spring. that had no results.
i have since fixed my problem and went ot home depot and got some 18-8 grade bolts that looked like the ones in the panducky kit and installed them. problem solved.
but i am still going to try and get in touch with progressive to inform them they should sell their kits with updated hardware.
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See?? Another thinker who finds solutions and adaptations for an imperfect world.
well to further prove my point, yes, this is another person who feels the design isnt the best. might not have said it in those words, but you need to get into a readin comprehension class if you cant figure that out.
alright, we all get it. you enjoy buying parts that are flawed and like to live with them. i expect quality when i buy from a quality company. **** off if you dont have any constructive input.
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