Enduratech Coilovers

[Endura-Tech]

Originally Posted by kenchan

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dang, i thought you were going to include something like a progress sway
bar. (which i already have).

i'll think it over some more about the purchase. i just recently installed
the stuff on my car and kinda lazy to redo it again. hahaha. 怠け者。

Nice Katakana! That is exactly as it says.

[redrumm]

seem like a good deal

[Endura-Tech]

Originally Posted by redrumm

seem like a good deal

We have one kit available before the others arrive. PM me if interested.
We will be working on becoming an advertiser here soon.

Justin

[PR fit]

hmmm... sounds good but, Pricing needs to be lower if you want to sell allot of your kits hear.. not trying to make you mad or start any smak talking but there is allot of other choices out there.. for me i am just about to order the

K-sport Rally Spec AR Damper System wich is made in the usa and only costs $1100.00 which was a online price and offer allot more features.

1. Special designed springs for rally conditions
2. Extended piston stroke
3. Reinforced internals to withstand extreme track conditions
4. 36-way adjustable dampening
5. Made from high quality 6061 Aluminum with T6 for increased hardness
6. Compression/Rebound adjustable
7. Adjustable spring perch for height adjustment
8. Adjustable body allowing maximum suspension travel
9. Pillow ball top mount w/ adjustable camber (not available for some models)
10. Monotube high pressure design reduces oil leakage
11. Electroplated body for protection from corrosion and rust
12. One year limited warranty

[Endura-Tech]

Originally Posted by PR fit

hmmm... sounds good but, Pricing needs to be lower if you want to sell allot of your kits hear.. not trying to make you mad or start any smak talking but there is allot of other choices out there.. for me i am just about to order the

K-sport Rally Spec AR Damper System wich is made in the usa and only costs $1100.00 which was a online price and offer allot more features.

1. Special designed springs for rally conditions
2. Extended piston stroke
3. Reinforced internals to withstand extreme track conditions
4. 36-way adjustable dampening
5. Made from high quality 6061 Aluminum with T6 for increased hardness
6. Compression/Rebound adjustable
7. Adjustable spring perch for height adjustment
8. Adjustable body allowing maximum suspension travel
9. Pillow ball top mount w/ adjustable camber (not available for some models)
10. Monotube high pressure design reduces oil leakage
11. Electroplated body for protection from corrosion and rust
12. One year limited warranty

To begin, I am not upset with your post, your are essentially comparing apples to oranges. The benefit of using these types of forums is that it allows one to learn about what is available in the market. If you felt it important to share with anyone reading this that coilover X allows for these features compared to coilover Y in the coilover Y titled thread, for whatever reason you feel that appropriate that is fine.

The Ksport coilovers do offer some nice features especially at that price. However, the pricing on the Endura-Tech coilovers has not been set, it was just an estimated number that was posted.

The Endura-Tech coilovers are meant for the Daily Driver and occasional track event. Endura-Tech are not built for Rally or rally cross such as mentioned by the above springs that are used for the Ksport. What may be found by the use of those springs is that the comfort of the ride is compromised and more stiff and rattling. Our springs rates are optimal for daily driving. As well, we have the option of increasing the spring rates in the front and rear if one was to choose to do so.

The benefit of using a twin tube over the monotube is that it easily secures more effective stroke. With the use of a base valve in the twin tube shock, it has a lower pressure of gas which allows for better driving comfort, supresses the friction in the sealing items and if the shell case gets a ding from a rock it will not affect the characteristics of the damping force. The benefit of the monotube over the twin tube is that it prevents aeration, dissipates heat better and can use larger piston valves. The higher gas pressure in the monotube will have a higher damping force and therefore a stiffer more harsh ride. Some people like this, Some don't.
With the higher gas pressure, the seals are more likely to blow or become faulty sooner and this is one reason that a monotube shock will need to be rebuilt after time, sometimes as little as 6 months depending on use and abuse. The durability and lifespan of the monotube shock in comparison to a twin tube is not as long and if anything happens to the outer casing of the monotube shock, it potentially will affect the damping force.

The rebound and compression adjustments, if seperate are nice, if an experienced person knows how to use them and set up the suspension properly. For a Daily driving application, this may be a little over kill and in the case of an owner not knowing how to properly adjust their rebound and compression suspension correctly may take time and never feel the comfort that they once had with the OEM feel of the car. If the compression is adjusted automatically at the same time as the rebound, this is somewhat better for the daily driving use and better for the amature track user. In our case, this non adjustable shock is set to allow for the best comfort for daily use.

In most cases, there is no difference between a 36 way adjustable shock and say for example an Endura-Tech 10 way or 15-way adjustable shock or that of a Tein Flex. The range of dampening force would be the same.

If one chooses to drive their Honda Fit for rallying or rally cross, by all means the Ksport may be the right option for them. If however, they use their Fit as a daily driver, grocery getter, spirited weekend driving trips or the very occasional autocross, I think the comfort and reliability we offer is worth it.

Thanks for the post

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[kenchan]

Endura-Tech- where are you guys as far as lowering the price?

demographics for a Fit is typically someone with not much extra
cash...meaning, you'll probably need to be in the $700-750 range
for non-adjustable basic kit.

anything over $1K, you're into the serious racer crowd so
they might opt for more familiar options even if they need to
pay a few extra hundred more.

Endura-Tech is a new name for most people so another reason
why you might want to lower the price to get your name known
and through the door. sure you do OEM, but heck, we all know
there are MANY manufacturers that do OEM and some of their
products suck. just a thought.

me? still too lazy to take my car apart again for $1K.

[Endura-Tech]

Kenchan,

The pricing will not be between $700-$775. It will have to be in the $900 range.
Further down the line we should have available a 10-way rebound adjustable shock with different spring rates that will be more geared toward the hardcore user. I believe it will also have adjustable camber plates in the front, pillow ball mount etc. like most of other applications that we have.

Justin

[qiraat]

will i cant wait becuz you guys r close to chicago.

[osborne]

Any update on this?

[Endura-Tech]

There should be something soon. Expected timeframe to receive coilover kits would be towards the end of March. I'll post again soon after getting more information.

Cheers!

[Chikubi]

Quick question -- what brand/brands are Endura-tech coilovers/springs sold under in their Japanese home market?

[Endura-Tech]

Originally Posted by Chikubi

Quick question -- what brand/brands are Endura-tech coilovers/springs sold under in their Japanese home market?

They are sold under the name of Endura-Tech through our sister company NHK. In Japan, Endura-tech also sells Brake Pads, Oil filters, windshield wipers and springs.

[Chikubi]

Thanks much!

[osborne]

Originally Posted by Endura-Tech

There should be something soon. Expected timeframe to receive coilover kits would be towards the end of March. I'll post again soon after getting more information.

Cheers!

How close to the end of March are we talking? I got my wheels in today, but I am waiting to drop the car before I put them on. I would love to get these coilovers on the car before 3/30.

[Endura-Tech]

Originally Posted by osborne

How close to the end of March are we talking? I got my wheels in today, but I am waiting to drop the car before I put them on. I would love to get these coilovers on the car before 3/30.

I would say that 3/30 would be about the time that I might be getting them into a Port off the slow boat from Japan. Add on another week to that.
As of today, they still have not left Japan. Total turnaround time from shipping from Japan to arriving our warehouse would be about 2.5 weeks.

Justin

[kenchan]

guys, Justin over at EnduraTech hooked me up with the one unit he
had onhand. He even came over to help me install and setup the car
as the kit did not have instructions yet.
Thanks, Justin!

i'll have more picts later on; going to get the car washed today. it is
filthy with road salt right now.

some comments on the unit. i'll have more detailed setups later on
while the spring and car settles.

1) Craftsmanship: top notch Japanese quality. very clean design.

2) Hardware: the locknuts they supply are excellent. the endlinks,
fit and finish is perfect, the hex heads on the links as well as the
spring seat lock are a perfect 5mm. no slop.

3) Install: Easy to do, basic handtools needed, and a spring compressor
if you are stock. need to re-use the top metal hat on the front along
with the rubber mounts. the rear, reuse rubber mounts.

4) Setup: I setup my car to about -1.7" front -1.2" rear as this is a
daily driver. the height is easy to adjust on the front. the rear you'll
have to drop the sus a little bit to get to the spring seats. i think this
is the same on the other c/o's too for the rear. not enough access for
the tool due to the spring carrier's huge walls. not a big deal.

5) Testdrive: i was not able to remove the Progress swaybar
to see how the car performs with just the c/o's due to rusted bolt heads
that stripped while loosening (panducky's bolts). anyway, ran
the car and WOW! I can't believe my car is riding about the
height of my DF210's and feel very much like stock on the straights,
and through the turns barely any roll... yet, the car is very neutral
biased. i'll have to pull my Cooper-S out later on this month and
compare back to back, but my FitS was riding smoothly and flat
like a $40K+ touring car.

6) Noise: none. with the panducky boltheads the spring seat base
on the rear was tilted slightly where the spring would rub the spring
carrier; so i added dummy bolts on the other side of the spring
carrier's holes to let the base sit horizontal. no issue if you aren't
running a rear swaybar, but if you are, just remember to add dummy
bolts.

anyway, i am EXTREMELY EXCITED. im going to take some bumpy
roads today to see how smoothly it can tackle it. again, i cant believe
my car is low, yet run super smooth.

[dank24]

now sell them @ $800 a set and I am buying

[kenchan]

i took some bumpy roads this morning to work and yeah, the car is
definitely smooth.

i dont need to brace myself over larger humps and dips, bumps like
i sorta did with the DF210's over stock shocks.. although that spring
wasn't bad, this is a whole new level. finally my car feels and looks
like something kenchan would drive to appreciate.

[hmgFIT]

congrats man, spring sounds great as you described them... whats the lowest drop one can achieve on these Coilovers?

[c_mack9]

how much lower can you go? my megans are maxed out and not low enough for my dumped tastes.