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Where did you get the alignment done? Sometimes I wonder where they get their specs....how far out are we talking here?
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you cannot adjust anything in the rear. front you can only do toe.

maybe used the wrong car on the computer to compare.
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2 degrees of rear negative camber is too much, maybe if it was a race car...
Rear toe is out too (toed in too much). It was bad enough for the alignment place to notice it out in the parking lot.

What can I say, it's my first Honda and this is the 4th trip to the dealer.
I bought a Civic Si at the same time and it has seen the dealer twice already.
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you cannot adjust anything in the rear. front you can only do toe.

maybe used the wrong car on the computer to compare.

this is true
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How off was it? Any reading that u can post up?

I'm not surprise actually. Anything can happen within that 5k miles....
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Nothing "happened" rear camber is 1.7 and 1.9 degrees (left and right). They say it can be up to 2.5 degrees....oh well good luck keeping a good set of tires on the rear.
Right rear tire is straight (toe) left rear tire is pointing in to almost the limit of negative toe.
Looking at two other Fits on the lot, they look to have the same issue.
My Civic Si nor my previous Porsche 968 had that much negative camber in the rear.
I am interested now in seeing how long the rear tires last.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:29 PM
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Nothing "happened" rear camber is 1.7 and 1.9 degrees (left and right). They say it can be up to 2.5 degrees....oh well good luck keeping a good set of tires on the rear.
Right rear tire is straight (toe) left rear tire is pointing in to almost the limit of negative toe.
Looking at two other Fits on the lot, they look to have the same issue.
My Civic Si nor my previous Porsche 968 had that much negative camber in the rear.
I am interested now in seeing how long the rear tires last.
Here's my alignment report after I got my Fit lowered:


I don't know how much negative camber I had at the back before I lowered my Fit. However almost every single 92-02 style Civic/90-01 Integra/Fit have more negative camber at the back especially when it's lowered. I had -2.4degrees camber on my 00 Civic before & I installed rear camber kit. Got it dial to -1.3 at the back and it rotated soooooooo much better around the corners!

I wish they can adjust the toe & camber at the back. I only got the guys set it to -1.5 with 0toe up front, for now anyways.

I will worry about the rear toe more than the camber degrees. It sounds quite acceptable to me anyway. Just rotate your tires every half a year or so IMO.

Here's the thread I posted a while ago:
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My stock Fit has this same issue with too much toe on the left rear.
I looked at two other Fits in the parking lot and their left rear tire had the same deal. Seems almost intentional considering that I have seen it on most Fits.
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Okay... so given those numbers, rear total toe is 0.37 (0.31 left plus 0.06 right) which is fine, but it's not even left to right. Your rear wheels look something like this:

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Everything else looks good, so if it's pulling to one side, rear toe could be the problem. As some others said, you might want to find a shop that can shim a rear hub to make the rear toe more even.
Sorry to resurecte an old tread but for the good of everybody here, I must say that Toe no mater how bad it might be won't make a car pull to one side, it,s camber that does. Wrong toe to an extem level will make your car go a bit crab like but won't make it pull. We (I'm a mecanic with qualification in alignment) often say that camber make a car pull and toe get your steering strait/level. Keep in mind that front toe is adjust in relation to the rear wheel's so the better the rear's the better the front will be.

Reason for pulling to a side could also be a bad and/or defective tire, try changing tire front to rear to see if it change something (left front switch with left rear and the same for the right side), if your car stop pulling, you got a bad tire, most likely at the rear now...
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Sorry to resurecte an old tread but for the good of everybody here, I must say that Toe no mater how bad it might be won't make a car pull to one side, it,s camber that does. Wrong toe to an extem level will make your car go a bit crab like but won't make it pull. We (I'm a mecanic with qualification in alignment) often say that camber make a car pull and toe get your steering strait/level.
What about caster? Caster has a greater effect on a car pulling than camber. Wheel Alignment A Short Course My understanding is that neither camber or caster is adjustable on a Fit, Is this correct?
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What about caster? Caster has a greater effect on a car pulling than camber. Wheel Alignment A Short Course My understanding is that neither camber or caster is adjustable on a Fit, Is this correct?
I must admit that your right on that, caster could be an issue but since the number of cars with ajustable caster are very slim, we tend to forget about it. Appart from being in an accident, your caster angles should be OK since their set from the factory an not adjustable without costly modifications.

Camber in the other hand, even if not adjustable from the factory on a Fit, could be adjust at minimum fee since you only need camber bolts or some sloting of the bolt hole at the base of the front shock. And it's the easy way to had some cornering capability too, if done right...
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camber with proper toe will not kill your tires. i run 2* of neg camber on my car all the way around with proper toe and have 0 adverse wear problems (its not a fit)
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I just ordered these bolts, do they come with nuts? I guess I'll find out.... I think that they are the same, they are both 14mm thread says bernardi honda..... is it just the thickness in the center of the bolt? Or does it come with an escentric?
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I'm using SPC front camber bolts. Nice & cheap, very happy with it.........
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Here's the new T1R front camber kit for the USDM Fit. A bit pricey compared to the camber bolt option but its awefully colorful
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I just ordered these bolts, do they come with nuts? I guess I'll find out.... I think that they are the same, they are both 14mm thread says bernardi honda..... is it just the thickness in the center of the bolt? Or does it come with an escentric?
no it doesn't come with the nuts I use the same set up for the rsx that I had and great quality... btw how many do u need for the FIT?? 2 for each side or just one for each side?? thanx
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I THINK someone said u can use 2 on each side if u wanna go HARDCORE with it? But I can get -2 degrees without problem just with two camber bolts. And that's quite a bit of difference compare with stock.......
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Here's the new T1R front camber kit for the USDM Fit. A bit pricey compared to the camber bolt option but its awefully colorful
The Fit does'nt use double wishbone suspention and dont have upper control arms. Those look like they would be for an Integra.
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