First oil change today!
#1
First oil change today!
yep....mileage was at 4545, and oil life was 40%...but, i figured it was time anyways. threw in some 5w-30 and a new oe oil filter (**** them...btw..i'm not paying $8 for a honeywell oil filter anymore)
#2
Got my car in May and have only 3300 miles on Sippy and oil is still at 50% - waiting a little more before we go in for our first one. My salesman gave me a card for a free one!
Cat :x
Cat :x
#3
Why did you use 5W-30, when Honda recommends (requires?) 5W-20?
#4
there's no real inherent difference you or the engine will ever see. the viscosity is VERY VERY similar, and...that's all they had at the store i was at.
#5
When the engine is cold yes, when the engine is at operating temperature "not so much". But hey, it's your engine (and warranty).
Last edited by spreadhead; 11-20-2007 at 10:39 PM.
#6
lol, if you say so kid
you don't know much about oil...or the difference in them
and, warrenty, yeah....um...there's no real way that could ever HURT the engine
haha
#9
I guess your right [except that I'm not a kid (I'm over 50)]. You probably do know more about oil than I do. In my long career [automotive mechanic, industrial oiler, industrial firefighter, and power plant operator (current occupation) (i.e. operating huge equipment lubricated with, you guessed it, oil)], I learned to use the oil recommended by the machines manufacturer, [or as recommended by engineers who specialize in lubrication (like the ones Honda employ)]. The last time I talked with one of these engineers (from Exxon Mobil, where my employer puchases oil for it's machines), we discussed automotive lubrication. He recommended using synthetic oil [he uses Mobil 1, of course, (which he said he changes every 10,000 miles with a filter change at 5,000) but said any good name brand synthetic is OK] in the viscosity (drum roll please) recommended by the car's manufacturer. In the unlikely event that your Fit has an engine problem covered by warranty, I hope, for your sake, that your dealer isn't as hard assed about maintenance specifics as some I've read about in this and other forums (can't speak here from experience as I've never had a warranty issue which required "proof of maintenance"). That being said you can use cow piss for oil as far as I'm concerned. By the way, you don't know much about sentence structure and spelling do you?
Last edited by spreadhead; 11-21-2007 at 11:14 AM.
#10
so you're a disgruntled old man? indeed
and as for ANY warranty claim being denied over something this trivial, would immediately result in a law suit against said dealer. by law, the only way they can deny warranty claims is if the owner has abused, misused, or modified the vehicle in a manner as to result in the problem. changing the temp rating of an oil with the same weight will affect NOTHING IN ANY SITUATION EVER. I'm an ME myself, and i've also been ase certified and have another degree in automotive systems tech (yeah....small degree i did before i decided to go at ME) and i'm no fool as to listen to the snake oil talk that ANY engineer will give about their own products.
it's a proven FACT that synthetics gain nothing in performance or life. Not by their lab test, but by REAL WORLD PEOPLE. The only thing that keeps oil going is hte detergents in the oil, for non-ester based oils.
nascar and IRL are the two most serious parties when it comes to oil viscosity (go figure...i worked at ammick and a few of my best friends are at PPI, DEI, Evernham, and Rousch) (oh...not to mention my engine builder is Brad Z, he designed the current IRL piston that the majority of teams are using and also made the plate manifolds for evernham) and they'll say the same when in regaurds to a situation like mine. if that's not enough, one of my old professors/instructors (Tom Monroe...from HP books, was also a ford engineer and GM engineer) will also agree with me.
either way, you're pretty ignorant if you think this will effect anything in a negative way. change your oil every 5-6k miles, or at least while it's still semi-translucent, and change the filter with a quality filter and you've got nothign to worry about in a temperate climate like i live in...with anything from 0w-30, 10w-30, 5w20, or anything in there. I'm the summer, i'd not even shy away from running something as high as 10w-40 and not worry one bit.
but this thread is about my first oil change, not some ignorant old fuck that is a pussy about using 5w-20
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/yourself
and as for ANY warranty claim being denied over something this trivial, would immediately result in a law suit against said dealer. by law, the only way they can deny warranty claims is if the owner has abused, misused, or modified the vehicle in a manner as to result in the problem. changing the temp rating of an oil with the same weight will affect NOTHING IN ANY SITUATION EVER. I'm an ME myself, and i've also been ase certified and have another degree in automotive systems tech (yeah....small degree i did before i decided to go at ME) and i'm no fool as to listen to the snake oil talk that ANY engineer will give about their own products.
it's a proven FACT that synthetics gain nothing in performance or life. Not by their lab test, but by REAL WORLD PEOPLE. The only thing that keeps oil going is hte detergents in the oil, for non-ester based oils.
nascar and IRL are the two most serious parties when it comes to oil viscosity (go figure...i worked at ammick and a few of my best friends are at PPI, DEI, Evernham, and Rousch) (oh...not to mention my engine builder is Brad Z, he designed the current IRL piston that the majority of teams are using and also made the plate manifolds for evernham) and they'll say the same when in regaurds to a situation like mine. if that's not enough, one of my old professors/instructors (Tom Monroe...from HP books, was also a ford engineer and GM engineer) will also agree with me.
either way, you're pretty ignorant if you think this will effect anything in a negative way. change your oil every 5-6k miles, or at least while it's still semi-translucent, and change the filter with a quality filter and you've got nothign to worry about in a temperate climate like i live in...with anything from 0w-30, 10w-30, 5w20, or anything in there. I'm the summer, i'd not even shy away from running something as high as 10w-40 and not worry one bit.
but this thread is about my first oil change, not some ignorant old fuck that is a pussy about using 5w-20
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/yourself
#13
And you use NASCAR as an example? NASCAR is a joke...why don't you try WRC or F1...look at what they use.
#16
i can tell u right now that using 10 30 in ur car will in no way shape or form EVER void ur warranty. at honda all we use is 10w20 and 10w30 (except s2000 using 10w30 and 1.3 hybrids using 0w20) and if a car takes 10w30 and were out of it, we use 10w20. 10w30 is considered the actual normal oil to use in cars and most customers request 10w30 which is fine and wont hurt a small engine like our cars. im sure on the bigger machines u use it would be wise to use rec. oil weight but in our cars, please no one be afraid to use ur personal preferenced oil weight it will not void warranty. but all in all only use 10w20 or 10w30, unless another is called for.
as for synthetics, they have actually proven longer engine life and at least a 3% in mpg!! woohoo!!
as for synthetics, they have actually proven longer engine life and at least a 3% in mpg!! woohoo!!
#17
Really where is that fact? That's absolute rubbish. Synthetic oils have a clear advantage as to standing up to higher heat before breaking down, are better lubricants overall, last considerably longer, etc....they are superior in everyway.
And you use NASCAR as an example? NASCAR is a joke...why don't you try WRC or F1...look at what they use.
And you use NASCAR as an example? NASCAR is a joke...why don't you try WRC or F1...look at what they use.
#19
I'd like to see Mr. the "run any oil", try some Kendall GT 50w and see how that works out.
If you want to determine the correct change interval, lab testing like Blackstone or Cat is the accurate way. Anything else is wasting good oil or guessing.
If you want to determine the correct change interval, lab testing like Blackstone or Cat is the accurate way. Anything else is wasting good oil or guessing.
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