Rep Points..does anybody really care about them?

[Fitftw]

hmmmm who exactly made fitfreak.net? maybe we can ask him/her about the rep system.

[jdjohnson9]

The forum is made by vbulletin and from what i have read on all of there pages of help for admins and owners it is a completely customizable system and more then likely has some crazy parameters seeing that everyone seems to be different. Its almost like a random mode but either way without actually asking admin from what i have gathered its pretty much hopeless.

[cavie187]

honestly, never really noticed them.

[osborne]

Originally Posted by jdjohnson9

The forum is made by vbulletin and from what i have read on all of there pages of help for admins and owners it is a completely customizable system and more then likely has some crazy parameters seeing that everyone seems to be different. Its almost like a random mode but either way without actually asking admin from what i have gathered its pretty much hopeless.

I was reading that earlier today as well. And why haven't we asked an administrator? Or has someone?

[TOOL]

Ill contact and Admin to try to get an explanation.

Tyler

[jdjohnson9]

Originally Posted by TOOL

Ill contact and Admin to try to get an explanation.

Tyler

Thanks for trying Tyler but honestly i doubt they are really all that concerend with it cause this thread has been going on for awhile and i havent seen 1 post from admin, unless i missed it. I know they have alot of things to do since IB has taken us over so im not all that worried about bothering them. Thanks for helping us out on this.

[Snap Fit]

I was thinking there could be a time frame involved to make sure people just dont go nuts repping one another just for reps sake.(like a safety feature/abuse feature) And I was also thinking that when someone is getting reps quickly that Admin sees this and configures accordingly. Probably a super long shot on that one but hey ya neva know!

With regards to some peoples post numbers and join date it could be that some have had negative reps that held them for a while. And some people have like less than 30 posts yet seem to have 3 reps. They seem to be people that were on here long ago in which case they could have made some helpful or good posts that people are still repping them on or you get one for every year.

This next idea is really whacky but here goes anyway-
Maybe you can only get a certain amount of credited reps from one thread. I would like to think this could be a possibility, however I have not read anything about that in any explination regarding the infrastucture of the rep system.

From what I have read some configurations require 50 for the second rep and in some cases way, way, WAY more.

[robwahoo]

The following are the current settings for the rep system. If people want to propose different setting than I would suggest working with TOOL to come up with proposed new settings and then we will change them.


Default Reputation
What reputation level shall new users receive upon registration? Make sure that you have a reputation level that is at least equal to or less than this value.

0



Reputation Undefined
If you have any user gain a reputation that exceeds your lowest negative level, then this phrase will be used for them. If you do not wish to use this phrase, make sure you set a negative reputation that is larger than the largest score (negative) that a user on your forum has.

is off the scale


Number of Reputation Ratings to Display
Controls how many ratings to display in the user's control panel.

10



Administrator's Reputation Power
How many reputation points does an administrator give or take away with each click?

10


Register Date Factor
For every X number of days, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
365

Post Count Factor
For every X number of posts, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
1000



Reputation Point Factor
For every X points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
100


Minimum Post Count
How many posts must a user have before his reputation hits count on others?
50


Minimum Reputation Count
How much reputation must a user have before his reputation hits count on others?
10


Daily Reputation Clicks Limit
How many reputation clicks can a user give over each 24 hour period? Administrators are exempt from this limit.
10


Reputation User Spread
How many different users must you give reputation to before you can hit the same person again? Administrators are exempt from this limit.
20

[jdjohnson9]

Awesome thanks for the info robwahoo. Also thanks for changing it so we can see who repped us and what they said in list form instead of just the last person who repped is. Thats pretty neat imo. I will have to do some more studying on the vbulletin page to see what parameters we are in and what happens when and if you change them. I dont want to get to drastic just wanted to understand the system so we know how it works and see why most of us are different. Thanks again robwahoo!!!!!!!

[jdjohnson9]

Tool,

The only option that i think would benefit a change would be:
Reputation Point Factor
For every X points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
100
In other words to get a visible rep on your own you need to reach 100 invisible reps which is almost impossible. haha. If we could bring that down to a more manageable number that would be better imo. Also i believe that there are more options then listed but i dont want to dig and bother robwahoo again. From what i got from the vbulletin site atleast. No biggie i think that that would help us out. Does anyone else agree? The more that push the better chance Tool can get robwahoo and the other admins to agree.

[ToyotaLover]

Originally Posted by jdjohnson9

Awesome thanks for the info robwahoo. Also thanks for changing it so we can see who repped us and what they said in list form instead of just the last person who repped is. Thats pretty neat imo. I will have to do some more studying on the vbulletin page to see what parameters we are in and what happens when and if you change them. I dont want to get to drastic just wanted to understand the system so we know how it works and see why most of us are different. Thanks again robwahoo!!!!!!!

good info....

[TOOL]

Originally Posted by jdjohnson9

Tool,

The only option that i think would benefit a change would be:
Reputation Point Factor
For every X points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.
100
In other words to get a visible rep on your own you need to reach 100 invisible reps which is almost impossible. haha. If we could bring that down to a more manageable number that would be better imo. Also i believe that there are more options then listed but i dont want to dig and bother robwahoo again. From what i got from the vbulletin site atleast. No biggie i think that that would help us out. Does anyone else agree? The more that push the better chance Tool can get robwahoo and the other admins to agree.

I agree with you man. 100 invisible in ALOT!
Ill try to get that changed within a week. What do you have in mind. Maybe 40? Or maybe as low as 25? What do you guys think?

Tyler

[jdjohnson9]

Originally Posted by TOOL

I agree with you man. 100 invisible in ALOT!
Ill try to get that changed within a week. What do you have in mind. Maybe 40? Or maybe as low as 25? What do you guys think?

Tyler

Well i dont want to drop it to low so that the floodgates are open and everyone has 10 for reputation but i dont want it to be so hard to get on your own you either have to get 1k posts or be on for a year. Im thinking 30 is a fair number. That will still take a lot of time for the average member. I barely have 20 so that kinda gives you an idea. haha. Thats my thought atleast. Any other ideas?

[TOOL]

Originally Posted by jdjohnson9

Well i dont want to drop it to low so that the floodgates are open and everyone has 10 for reputation but i dont want it to be so hard to get on your own you either have to get 1k posts or be on for a year. Im thinking 30 is a fair number. That will still take a lot of time for the average member. I barely have 20 so that kinda gives you an idea. haha. Thats my thought atleast. Any other ideas?

30 sounds like a logical number. Any other idea's before i propose the idea to a Admin?
BTW thanks Joshua, for being active in trying to change the community for the better!

Tyler

[jdjohnson9]

Originally Posted by TOOL

30 sounds like a logical number. Any other idea's before i propose the idea to a Admin?
BTW thanks Jooshua, for being active in trying to change the community for the better!

Tyler

Who the heck is Jooshua? . Just messing with ya Tyler. No problem bro

[TOOL]

Sorry man
Me and my not proof reading-ness lol.

Tyler

[Fitftw]

yeah i agree with Josh on the rep to 30 thing. I have about 16 rep invisible rep so now i know it isnt impossible to get 30 instead of 100. Thanks for clearing all the other information up though robwahoo. Never would've guessed how long you've been a member effects your rep.

[Snap Fit]

Thanks robwahoo

That was really interesting and useful.
Now to just wrap our heads around it.

The 100 rep thing is kinda odd. That doesnt seem to explain anything thoroughly enough though.
I have two visible reps, one is specifically from getting to 1000 posts and the other was when I got to 10 full invisible reps.
Perhaps the 100 rep thing applies to your second rep?
Or a decimal movement like we talked about before for invisible reps?
Like 10 accumulated reps (from people who do not have a visible rep) to get a invisible whole rep and ten of the invisibles to creates a visible rep. But then again we probably know thats not right either, as I and many others would have been at 3 or more reps by now.

So is it just me or is this actually getting even more interesting?
I too would like to keep things similar to what they are already, I dont know what should be changed yet (if anything).
I would like very much to discuss this much further if any changes are to be made. And If changes are going to be made this is what I would be interested to find out-

-how (if at all)would it affect negative reps
-how will it subdue/prevent abuse (if at all)
-will this help or hurt the usuage of the rep system
-will this enlighten people to using the rep system (as in getting more participant acknowledgement)

Maybe 50 in place of the current 100?
I think keeping it as high as possible and still making it attainable would be pleasant. I just dont think I am a fan of it being so easy to get a rep just because of 1000 posts or being here for x amount of years compared to earning it with useful/good/enjoyable posts.

I wonder if anybody even has 50 invisible reps. From the looks of it a few must have it, from what good info and accolade's they have received.

I say give 5 invisibles to people who win the photo of the month winners HAhahaaaaa (sorry...just had to)