"MAT" <marcoat*RM_@SPAM_*hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few
>> screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll
>> need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can
>> go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired"
>
>
> Once I read in the group that x-mm socket/wrench is the most common in
> Hondas. Does someone remember that value? (As in 9mm, 12mm.)
>
There are a few sizes, depending on the beefiness of the hardware. 10 mm is
very popular for light stuff, while 12, 13, 14, 15, 17 and 19 mm are
progressively heavier. 11, 16 and 18 mm are really rare. The 17 mm and
especially the 19 mm are for serious stuff, so the 10-15 except 11 will fit
95% of the roadside needs. Honda is also enamored of 10 mm 12 point
hardware, but mainly deeper inside things (like holding steering knuckles
onto hubs... grr!).
"Nick Huckaby" <simoung@gmail.comREMOVESPAM> wrote in message
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> I notice the word Samaritan is capitalized. This must've been an actual
> person. :-)
>
Well, in the original parable it was an individual from Samaria (or maybe
somebody who sold Samarium... I was never sure). Apparently Samaritans had
an unsavory reputation and the parable had largely an anti-prejudice theme.
Obviously, Bible scholarship is not a strong point for me!
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:42:33 -0800, "Nick Huckaby"
<simoung@gmail.comREMOVESPAM> wrote:
>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote
>
>> I always keep a few basic tools, like channel-lock plyers, few
>> screwdrivers, and a DMM in each of my vehicles. Never know when you'll
>> need them. these few tools will pack nice and easily in a bag, and can
>> go wither inside the spare, or under one of the seats. "Be Prepaired"
>
>I wanted my wife to carry these basic tools but she insist that a cell
>phone works just as well. Doesn't make sense when there are
>regions where cell phone receptions don't work
Yep, and thats the case around here. even on the US highways, its
patchy at best. i even had problems in the UK, on the motoreways, with
a cellphone going flat (and when the alternator goes, doesn't matter
if you have a car charger either) - was stuck in the country overnight
, got to -6C that night too.
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
in message news:eoGdnU-xzIwRbLDfRVn-hg@sedona.net...
>
> I use the German approach - I use the same old words
> but string them together to make inventive 8, 12, or
> 16 letter words. Longer ones confuse and make me gasp
> for breath.
A little antisieze compound on the threads does wonders. Then find the water
leak that caused the rust of the bolt.
"Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare
tire, a
> jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's
stuck.
> Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
> matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>
> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
> to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
> would you do it differently?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:42:43 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:
>I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a
>jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.
>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>
>This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
>would you do it differently?
>
>Thanks
I would've called my road service. I can usually walk 5-10 miles before they
show up, but hey, flats always occur on my rides farther from home than even
that.
I guess I might have tried the lug wrench handle for some leverage, but maybe
you couldn't get it down there far enough.
I bet you though, somewhere deep in the "lubrication points" of your owner's
manual, it would've told you that every year or so (about the same time it
tells you to lube door hinges) to lightly coat the threads of the rod with the
nut with some motor oil to help thwart rusting.
In article <lu2dnUBiOoNkCbDfRVn-pA@comcast.com>,
Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote:
>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>> During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the
>> spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk
>> floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare
>> tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the
>> car.
>
>Does anyone actually do this? I'm assuming that the tire is mounted
>"face up" of course.
On many cars, the spare tire is in the well face down, so it must be
removed to check the pressure.
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In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, Z@UCBerkeley.edu
says...
>
>
>I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire,
a
>jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.
>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>
>This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
>would you do it differently?
Us the tire iron to persuade the nut loose. A few choice words would also
help. Just make sure no children are around. :)
---------------
Alex
Bob, in you case I would have loosened the lug nuts about 1/8" and
lowered the car partially to put some weight on it. Then I'd wiggle the
car back and forth. That should have don it.
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:42:43 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a
>>jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.
>>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
>>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>>
>>This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
>>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
>>would you do it differently?
>>
>>Thanks
>
>
> I would have beat the $shit out of those rabbit ears with the lug
> wrench until it submitted to my will. Then I would have tossed it
> into the woods so it may never be found before the end of the
> Universe.
>
> Then I would have mounted the tire and driven home.
>
> Lg
>
Yeah, me too. Take your frustration out on those little tabs.
Although, that's why I have a cell phone now. I just call my buddy who
can bring me a real jack and a real tire. Especially because I don't
carry a spare in my summer car - the nitrous bottle takes up the room.
:)
Larry:
What are you doing out of the MS reservation?
I try to avoid this by checking the spare tire preasure
every oil change. And to chekc the preasure you have to
remove the spare.
Terry
Tim Zimmerman wrote:
> I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a
> jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.
> Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
> matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>
> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
> to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
> would you do it differently?
>
> Thanks
-----------------------
That's why its important for a guy to make sure his spouse / s.o. knows
how to change a tire for themselves. You get out the manual and read
thru it together, then you see if you can do it. This exercise also
gives you the opportunity to find out whether your tire shop has been
using air tools to make sure your lugs nuts won't fall off "before the
end of the Universe", as was mentioned by another poster. I had to put a
7' bar on the lug wrench to get the wheels off my old Aerostar.
"Timothy J. Lee" <remove22@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d0jcjb$pbs$1@bolt.sonic.net...
> In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
> Tim Zimmerman <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:
>>If this were your car how would you do it differently?
>
> During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the
> spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk
> floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare
> tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the
> car.
>
Not me - I'd have taken Lawrence's approach. Then I would have gotten all
mopey and searched for hours for the little devil and put a bit of
lubricant - maybe petroleum jelly - on the threads to make it easier next
time. Remorse, you know.
in a nutshell..."grease is your friend!"
"rjdriver" <rjdrivers@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote in message
> news:73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com ...
> >I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare
> >tire, a
> > jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's
> > stuck.
> > Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
> > matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
> >
> > This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
> > to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car
how
> > would you do it differently?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Had a similar problem with a tire *on the car* (2003 EX with alloy
> wheels) recently.
>
> Went to remove to bring in for repair of slow leak. Wheel would not
> budge from the hub. Stuck tight. Banged with fist a few times. Nothing.
> Hit with rubber mallet a few times. Nothing. Hit over and over all
around
> the wheel figuring it was just a little rust spot somewhere between wheel
> and hub that needed a little nudging. Still wouldn't budge.
>
> Began to get frustartaed. Hit even harder with rubber mallet. Was
> surpised to see it leave marks on the wheels. Put back against stone wall
> that runs along my driveway, kicked as hard as I could at 3 spots where
> rubber mets rim. Didn't even give the slightest hint of breaking loose,
but
> almost knocked the car off the jack. Now I'm getting mad. And sore from
> all this kneeling, banging, and kicking. Got piece of 2 by 4 from
workshop.
> Strapped to wheel with bungie cord. Took heavey metal hammer. Wound up
> like Tiger Woods for a 400 yard drive and smashed the hell at it. Yes -
> came loose.
>
> Lesson learned. A little grease where wheel meets hub before returning
> repaired tire to car.
>
> Wouldn't have expected the same situation the trunk. Moisture must be
> getting in there. Same solution should keep from happening again.
>
> Bob
>
>
"Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote in message
news:73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com ...
>I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare
>tire, a
> jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's
> stuck.
> Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
> matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>
> This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
> to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
> would you do it differently?
>
> Thanks
Had a similar problem with a tire *on the car* (2003 EX with alloy
wheels) recently.
Went to remove to bring in for repair of slow leak. Wheel would not
budge from the hub. Stuck tight. Banged with fist a few times. Nothing.
Hit with rubber mallet a few times. Nothing. Hit over and over all around
the wheel figuring it was just a little rust spot somewhere between wheel
and hub that needed a little nudging. Still wouldn't budge.
Began to get frustartaed. Hit even harder with rubber mallet. Was
surpised to see it leave marks on the wheels. Put back against stone wall
that runs along my driveway, kicked as hard as I could at 3 spots where
rubber mets rim. Didn't even give the slightest hint of breaking loose, but
almost knocked the car off the jack. Now I'm getting mad. And sore from
all this kneeling, banging, and kicking. Got piece of 2 by 4 from workshop.
Strapped to wheel with bungie cord. Took heavey metal hammer. Wound up
like Tiger Woods for a 400 yard drive and smashed the hell at it. Yes -
came loose.
Lesson learned. A little grease where wheel meets hub before returning
repaired tire to car.
Wouldn't have expected the same situation the trunk. Moisture must be
getting in there. Same solution should keep from happening again.
> In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
> Tim Zimmerman <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>>If this were your car how would you do it differently?
>
>
> During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the
> spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk
> floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare
> tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the
> car.
>
Does anyone actually do this? I'm assuming that the tire is mounted
"face up" of course.
My situation is unique in that I have a collapsible spare (Porsche 944)
so checking tire pressure is irrelevant. You also loosen the spare with
the lug wrench so hopefully leverage wouldn't be an issue.
I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a
jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.
Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
would you do it differently?
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:42:43 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman" <Z@UCBerkeley.edu>
wrote:
>I just had a flat tire. I get out, open the Civic trunk and find a spare tire, a
>jack and a lug wrench. Then I reach inside to grab the spare tire, it's stuck.
>Somehow the tire is bolted down with some kind of a rabbit ear nut. No
>matter how hard I try to twist it, the rabbit ears will not move.
>
>This was my scenario last night when I had to walk home two miles just
>to get a monkey wrench to twist the rabbit ears. If this were your car how
>would you do it differently?
>
>Thanks
I would have beat the $shit out of those rabbit ears with the lug
wrench until it submitted to my will. Then I would have tossed it
into the woods so it may never be found before the end of the
Universe.
Then I would have mounted the tire and driven home.
In article <73aXd.5096$C47.404@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
Tim Zimmerman <Z@UCBerkeley.edu> wrote:
>If this were your car how would you do it differently?
During periodic inspections of the tires, would have had to remove the
spare tire to check its air pressure (assuming typical under the trunk
floor mounting). At that time, would have made sure that the spare
tire could have been removed without tools not normally carried in the
car.
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>In the 1991 Civic if you have the spare upside down, it will bounce all
>over
>the cavity under the rear deck. Very noisy. On a rough road it sounds
>like
>tjhe rear end is falling off.
>Terry
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