Quiet tires=soft tires?

The only thing of importance about low-rolling-resistance tires
(original equipment on our Insight) is that they're high anxiety poor
road holders. Replace ASAP with real tires...

Frank wrote:

> Hi there
> I had a debate with a co-worker about tires today. I have 4
> Michelin Pilot MXM4 (All-Season P205/55 R16 89V) and I find them
> loud. My co-worker told me that the road noise is mostly from
> these tires and that low-rolling-resistance tires are hard, so
> they're loud.
>
> Is this true? First are these Michelin Pilot low-rolling
> resistance tires? And Second, are low-rolling resistance tire
> hard? If so, what tires do you recommend for me?
>
> thanks
>
>

Here in Arizona, at least, the roads vary so much in quality that my stock
['04 Accord-4 cyl] Michelins are very quiet on some roads, noisy on others.
So who's to say whether it's the tires or the roads? While I'm sure some
tires are quieter than others.... ?

Frank wrote:
> Are low-rolling resistance tire hard?

That makes sense to me. The less a tire deforms, the less the rolling
resistance should be. In a train, the wheels have extremely low rolling
resistance, and they are definitely very hard.

Bucky wrote:
> That makes sense to me. The less a tire deforms, the less the rolling
> resistance should be. In a train, the wheels have extremely low rolling
> resistance, and they are definitely very hard.

That's cuz they're made out of metal! ;-)

Abeness wrote:
> Bucky wrote:
>
>> That makes sense to me. The less a tire deforms, the less the rolling
>> resistance should be. In a train, the wheels have extremely low rolling
>> resistance, and they are definitely very hard.
>
>
> That's cuz they're made out of metal! ;-)


....as are the rails...

motsco_ _ wrote:
> Michelin.com or Tirerack.com has the answers about the noise / longevity
> questions. It's impossible to recommend anything since we can't tell if
> you're in Hawaii, or Alaska. General rule . . Noisy Honda factory tires
> tend to be very poor snow / ice tires. Moot point if you're in Hawaii.

the only good point about the firestone FR680s was theyd last a long
time. mine were only halfway worn before i replaced em. however, each
one had been plugged at least once, and one was full of slime.

Frank wrote:
> Hi there
> I had a debate with a co-worker about tires today. I have 4
> Michelin Pilot MXM4 (All-Season P205/55 R16 89V) and I find them
> loud. My co-worker told me that the road noise is mostly from
> these tires and that low-rolling-resistance tires are hard, so
> they're loud.
>
> Is this true? First are these Michelin Pilot low-rolling
> resistance tires? And Second, are low-rolling resistance tire
> hard? If so, what tires do you recommend for me?

That's probably not it exclusively. I'd think the tread pattern
and rubber compound would have more to do with road noise.
A tire that's worn would also be louder. There are too many
variable to say that only one thing (like rolling resistance)
is the primary cause of tire noise.

Hi there
I had a debate with a co-worker about tires today. I have 4
Michelin Pilot MXM4 (All-Season P205/55 R16 89V) and I find them
loud. My co-worker told me that the road noise is mostly from
these tires and that low-rolling-resistance tires are hard, so
they're loud.

Is this true? First are these Michelin Pilot low-rolling
resistance tires? And Second, are low-rolling resistance tire
hard? If so, what tires do you recommend for me?

thanks

Frank wrote:
> Hi there
> I had a debate with a co-worker about tires today. I have 4
> Michelin Pilot MXM4 (All-Season P205/55 R16 89V) and I find them
> loud. My co-worker told me that the road noise is mostly from
> these tires and that low-rolling-resistance tires are hard, so
> they're loud.
>
> Is this true? First are these Michelin Pilot low-rolling
> resistance tires? And Second, are low-rolling resistance tire
> hard? If so, what tires do you recommend for me?
>
> thanks

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Michelin.com or Tirerack.com has the answers about the noise / longevity
questions. It's impossible to recommend anything since we can't tell if
you're in Hawaii, or Alaska. General rule . . Noisy Honda factory tires
tend to be very poor snow / ice tires. Moot point if you're in Hawaii.

'Curly'