air bags

I have an idea: If the airbag or airbag well is tampered with,a small
spray canister explodes and sprays the LITERAL scent of SKUNK (you can
purchase this chemical) all over him.If this happened enough times to
the thief,he just MIGHT give up....LOL

SAC 441 wrote:
> I have an idea: If the airbag or airbag well is tampered with,a small
> spray canister explodes and sprays the LITERAL scent of SKUNK (you can
> purchase this chemical) all over him.If this happened enough times to
> the thief,he just MIGHT give up....LOL

Yeah, but then the inside of your car reeks forever after. Ick.

I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in place.

halo2 guy wrote:
> Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They are
> not required.
>
>
> "Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3yI2e.39670$qn2.9205972@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
>>I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent air
>>bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM radio, or
>>perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add cost to
>>producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the replacement
>>air bags, not including the other damage and labor.
>>
>>TeGGer® wrote:
>>
>>>Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.galaxy.org> wrote in
>>>news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc3.185@fe09.lga:
>>>
>>>>TeGGer® wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed
>>>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell
>>>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the
>>>>>interior doing it, too.
>>>>
>>>>Didn't you just answer your own question?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Heh, seems so, doesn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thieves don't "work neat"
>>>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was
>>>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually
>>>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a
>>>specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the
>>>same thing with air bags.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

air bags are not like brakes or tires. If the air bags don't work then it
is the occupants of the vehicle that will suffer. If other safety items
like brakes and tires, that are inspected, are not up to snuff then society
is in danger of being hurt or killed.

I am unaware of any laws requiring owners to replace air bags as needed. I
guess they would also need laws saying that if your SRS light comes on you
need to fix that also. As far as I know they don't. A call to the local
MVD would probably render a correct answer.


"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nwR2e.103009$534.17405@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in place.
>
> halo2 guy wrote:
>> Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They are
>> not required.
>>
>>
>> "Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:3yI2e.39670$qn2.9205972@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>
>>>I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent
>>>air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM
>>>radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add
>>>cost to producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the
>>>replacement air bags, not including the other damage and labor.
>>>
>>>TeGGer® wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.galaxy.org> wrote in
>>>>news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc3.185@fe09.lga:
>>>>
>>>>>TeGGer® wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed
>>>>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell
>>>>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the
>>>>>>interior doing it, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't you just answer your own question?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Heh, seems so, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thieves don't "work neat"
>>>>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was
>>>>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually
>>>>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a
>>>>specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the
>>>>same thing with air bags.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

It wouldn't, but how are they going to know?



"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nwR2e.103009$534.17405@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> I assume that a car will not pass inspection without the air bags in
place.
>

TeGGer® wrote:
> In at least some of Canada, it would pass. In the US, not at all.

in california, they dont physically check for the bags. dunno if having
an SRS light lit up would cause it to not pass the biennual emissions
test. id think not, but hey- ya never know.

a guy i know had an accident bad enough to set off the bags. he put a
friggin LCD screen in the steering wheel in place of the bag.

bling, bling, y'all!

SoCalMike wrote:
> a guy i know had an accident bad enough to set off the bags. he put a
> friggin LCD screen in the steering wheel in place of the bag.

Wonder what his next accident will look like, what with that screen and
all...

<< Well, they crash the car. If the bags go off, then you had working air
bags
and you pass the inspection! >>

Shitttt....... LMAO!

halo2 guy wrote:
> air bags are not like brakes or tires. If the air bags don't work then it
> is the occupants of the vehicle that will suffer. If other safety items
> like brakes and tires, that are inspected, are not up to snuff then society
> is in danger of being hurt or killed.
>
> I am unaware of any laws requiring owners to replace air bags as needed. I
> guess they would also need laws saying that if your SRS light comes on you
> need to fix that also. As far as I know they don't. A call to the local
> MVD would probably render a correct answer.

<snort>

Let's just say I'm skeptical (not a flame, BTW).

SAC 441 wrote:
> I have an idea: If the airbag or airbag well is tampered with,a small
> spray canister explodes and sprays the LITERAL scent of SKUNK (you can
> purchase this chemical) all over him.If this happened enough times to
> the thief,he just MIGHT give up....LOL

That would certainly make it really easy to ID any car whose air bags
had been stolen. Besides, who's to say everyone who smells like skunk
has stolen air bags?

I am sure it would not be more than the amount I am paying to replace
the two stolen air bags. Would u believe $1400, just for the parts, all
out of pocket? I am sure that insurance companies would also be in favor
of VIN etching into the air bags.

Sparky Spartacus wrote:
> Marcos wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to
>> prevent air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like
>> the OEM radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag.
>
>
> That sounds fiendishly expensive - they'd either have to be done at
> final assembly (or whenever the VIN is determined) or the air bags
> allocated at manufacture to a specific VIN except, of course, those
> intended for aftermarket sale.

Well you don't have to replace them. You could leave them out. They are
not required.


"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3yI2e.39670$qn2.9205972@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent air
>bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM radio, or
>perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add cost to
>producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the replacement
>air bags, not including the other damage and labor.
>
> TeGGer® wrote:
>> Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.galaxy.org> wrote in
>> news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc3.185@fe09.lga:
>>>TeGGer® wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed
>>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell
>>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the
>>>>interior doing it, too.
>>>
>>>Didn't you just answer your own question?
>>
>>
>>
>> Heh, seems so, doesn't it?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thieves don't "work neat"
>>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was
>>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually
>>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).
>>
>>
>>
>> And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a
>> specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the
>> same thing with air bags.
>>
>>
>>
>

I wonder if the smart Honda engineers can come up with a way to prevent
air bag theft, or at least make it NOT worth while. Much like the OEM
radio, or perhaps etching the VIN on the air bag. I know this would add
cost to producing the car, but I am paying $1400 simply to purchase the
replacement air bags, not including the other damage and labor.

TeGGer® wrote:
> Sparky Spartacus <Sparky@spartacus.galaxy.org> wrote in
> news:Cwt2e.15465$Nc3.185@fe09.lga:
>
>
>>TeGGer® wrote:
>
>
>>>She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed
>>>a window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell
>>>did they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the
>>>interior doing it, too.
>>
>>Didn't you just answer your own question?
>
>
>
> Heh, seems so, doesn't it?
>
>
>
>>Thieves don't "work neat"
>>(the voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was
>>broken into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually
>>for the radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).
>
>
>
> And that's what resulted in OEM radios eventually becoming unique to a
> specific vehicle unless a code was entered. Maybe they need to do the same
> thing with air bags.
>
>
>

TeGGer® wrote:
> Marcos <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in
> news:If22e.38132$qn2.8907394@twister.nyc.rr.com:
>
>
>>Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last
>>week. Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and
>>was not bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the
>>door's sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the
>>steering wheel when I saw the car next morning.
>>Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan
>>1,2005...Just got too expensive in NYC.
>>Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really
>>sucks.
>
> Hey, I feel for ya. My sister lives in Oakville, Ontario, Canada,
> not exactly a high-crime area.
>
> She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed a
> window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell did
> they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the interior doing
> it, too.

Didn't you just answer your own question? Thieves don't "work neat" (the
voice of experience - I lost count on how many times my car was broken
into when I lived in NYC when it got up to 10-12 times, usually for the
radio - this was pre-airbag days for moi).

"TeGGer" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:
> And because of their replacement cost, which can nearly double the price of
> fixing damage from minor fender-benders.

A friend's Civic was totalled after the airbags went off. The extra $3000
for bag replacement tipped the scales...

--
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:
> Hey, I feel for ya. My sister lives in Oakville, Ontario, Canada,
> not exactly a high-crime area.
>
> She had the bags in her '00 Civic stolen two months ago. They smashed
> a
> window and were gone in about a minute with both bags. How the hell
> did
> they get them out so fast? They did a lot of damage to the interior
> doing
> it, too.

Holy sh*t! I didn't realize there was such a market for airbags. Now
I'll always be wondering when I see them for sale on eBay.

Rudy

Marcos wrote:
> Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last
> week.
> Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really
sucks.

Oh man, that sucks. I knew a friend that had an airbag stolen, and I
hear it's pretty common. Easy to steal, lots of money. You can get a
steering wheel lock that has some extra flanges to cover the air bag
area. Obviously, professional thieves will just cut that off, but every
little bit helps.

You can also not replace the airbag and put a sign in your window that
says, "airbag already stolen".

Marcos wrote:
> Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last
> week. Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was
> not bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's
> sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel
> when I saw the car next morning.
> Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just
> got too expensive in NYC.
> Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really sucks.

id probably go without, honestly. get the new covers to put on, and just
deal with it. or just get a drivers side bag.

Well there are tamperproof screws/bolts that can be used in place of the
regular screws which may give some measure of protection.


"Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:If22e.38132$qn2.8907394@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last week.
> Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was not
> bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's
> sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel
> when I saw the car next morning.
> Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just
> got too expensive in NYC.
> Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really
> sucks.
>
> Question:
> How are other urban dwellers preventing the theft of air bags?
> Even though I have off street parking and a reserved spot, the parking lot
> is easily accessible to anyone on foot. The location is well lit.
> I have seen devices similar to "The Club", that prevent air bag theft, but
> how good are these? Also, is there anyway to prevent the theft of the
> passenger air bag?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>

I guess I can ask the body shop to look into these.
HOwever, will screws/bolts prevent the air bag from being replaced after
they deploy?

halo2 guy wrote:

> Well there are tamperproof screws/bolts that can be used in place of the
> regular screws which may give some measure of protection.
>
>
> "Marcos" <mm904@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:If22e.38132$qn2.8907394@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
>>Some mother-less a$$wipe stole both air bags from my 99 Accord last week.
>>Since the low-life retard probably could not pick the lock and was not
>>bold enough to break the glass, he punched a hole in the door's
>>sheetmetal, next to the lock. The Club was still on the steering wheel
>>when I saw the car next morning.
>>Unlucky for me, I dropped full coverage on the car on Jan 1,2005...Just
>>got too expensive in NYC.
>>Total price to repair will be over $2k, out of pocket! Really really
>>sucks.
>>
>>Question:
>>How are other urban dwellers preventing the theft of air bags?
>>Even though I have off street parking and a reserved spot, the parking lot
>>is easily accessible to anyone on foot. The location is well lit.
>>I have seen devices similar to "The Club", that prevent air bag theft, but
>>how good are these? Also, is there anyway to prevent the theft of the
>>passenger air bag?
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>
>
>