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Old 08-29-2005, 04:39 PM
radar
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check engine light - evap

I have a 2000 accord and keep getting the check engine light, have had it
checked 3 times and each time get the evap code. Does anyone know of any
common problems regarding evap on 200- accord 4cyl? I've had the gas cap
changed, 2 bypass valves leading to the tank, and 1 purge control solenoid -
and still check engine light. Anyone familiar with such a problem?


 
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:30 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap

radar wrote:

> I have a 2000 accord and keep getting the check engine light, have had it
> checked 3 times and each time get the evap code. Does anyone know of any
> common problems regarding evap on 200- accord 4cyl? I've had the gas cap
> changed, 2 bypass valves leading to the tank, and 1 purge control solenoid -
> and still check engine light. Anyone familiar with such a problem?


Perhaps the gas cap is not on tight enough? When putting the cap back on,
it should click a few times. Otherwise, a loose gas cap will trigger this
error code.

Also, is the replacement cap OEM or aftermarket? Make sure it is OEM.
 
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:54 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap


"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> radar wrote:
>
>> I have a 2000 accord and keep getting the check engine light, have had it
>> checked 3 times and each time get the evap code. Does anyone know of any
>> common problems regarding evap on 200- accord 4cyl? I've had the gas cap
>> changed, 2 bypass valves leading to the tank, and 1 purge control
>> solenoid -
>> and still check engine light. Anyone familiar with such a problem?

>
> Perhaps the gas cap is not on tight enough? When putting the cap back on,
> it should click a few times. Otherwise, a loose gas cap will trigger this
> error code.
>
> Also, is the replacement cap OEM or aftermarket? Make sure it is OEM.



I had a 2000 Odyssey that had that problem. Turned out to be the gas tank
filler neck.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:31 PM
'Curly Q. Links'
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Re: check engine light - evap

radar wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 accord and keep getting the check engine light, have had it
> checked 3 times and each time get the evap code. Does anyone know of any
> common problems regarding evap on 200- accord 4cyl? I've had the gas cap
> changed, 2 bypass valves leading to the tank, and 1 purge control solenoid -
> and still check engine light. Anyone familiar with such a problem?


=====================

If somebody is intentionally overfilling it, you can suck a bunch of
liquid fuel into the evap canister, and a CODE will be set. I think it's
in the Owner's Manual.

'Curly'
 
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:11 PM
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Evap

what are the OBD 2 codes for it? i've had problems with EVAP on my accord 99 4 cyl lx. But those were easy fixed. Depending on your codes will determine which parts to replace. Like P1300 or P1301... These codes are for fuel injectors or oxygen sensor that sometimes fail. More so for the fuel injectors. Also check out if your EVAP control is messed up. It's a $60 part here in the US straight from Honda. Don't know how much it is for them to replace it since I brought it to a friend I know.
 
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:30 AM
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Re: check engine light - evap

radar wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 accord and keep getting the check engine light, have had it
> checked 3 times and each time get the evap code. Does anyone know of any
> common problems regarding evap on 200- accord 4cyl? I've had the gas cap
> changed, 2 bypass valves leading to the tank, and 1 purge control solenoid -
> and still check engine light. Anyone familiar with such a problem?


==============================

Another hint . . Always quote the CODE, it's on your invoices. If it's
not there, get it from the servicing dealer's computer. You paid for it.
Then run it through google.com, and find out what it (actually) means.

'Curly'
 
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:32 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap


The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have access
to any list of codes so I have to assume that it really is evap? Is that a
broad category or jsut a few possible parts?


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>
> what are the OBD 2 codes for it? i've had problems with EVAP on my
> accord 99 4 cyl lx. But those were easy fixed. Depending on your
> codes will determine which parts to replace. Like P1300 or P1301...
> These codes are for fuel injectors or oxygen sensor that sometimes
> fail. More so for the fuel injectors. Also check out if your EVAP
> control is messed up. It's a $60 part here in the US straight from
> Honda. Don't know how much it is for them to replace it since I
> brought it to a friend I know.
>
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:30 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap


In article <4315d573$1_2@news.cybersurf.net>, "radar" <disposable.ron@gmail.com.fr.cn.b.ru> writes:
>
> The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have access
> to any list of codes


The ODB-II site[1] will translate SAE (generic) codes, and codes for
US manufacturers. It doesn't do Honda, unfortunately; I don't know
offhand if there's a website for Honda's manufacturer codes.

> so I have to assume that it really is evap?


You're getting P1457:

P: powertrain DTC (diagnostic trouble code)
1: manufacturer-specific code (0 would be SAE)
4: auxiliary (ie not directly related to combustion) emissions
57: the specific fault code

P0457 is the SAE code for evaporative leak, so I suspect P1457 is
essentially the same issue.

> Is that a broad category or jsut a few possible parts?


Pretty much the parts from the gas cap to the tank, I think. So it
could be the cap or the filler tube, or the sensor (I assume there's
a sensor of some sort that detects an evaporative leak - I've never
looked into it).

Other parts of the EVAP system are a canister that traps vapors and a
purge valve and line that allow vapors to enter the engine to be
burned. I think those would have different codes, though.


1. http://www.obdii.com/codes.asp

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Old 08-31-2005, 11:30 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap


"Michael Wojcik" <mwojcik@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <4315d573$1_2@news.cybersurf.net>, "radar"
> <disposable.ron@gmail.com.fr.cn.b.ru> writes:
>>
>> The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have
>> access
>> to any list of codes

>
> The ODB-II site[1] will translate SAE (generic) codes, and codes for
> US manufacturers. It doesn't do Honda, unfortunately; I don't know
> offhand if there's a website for Honda's manufacturer codes.
>
>> so I have to assume that it really is evap?

>
> You're getting P1457:
>
> P: powertrain DTC (diagnostic trouble code)
> 1: manufacturer-specific code (0 would be SAE)
> 4: auxiliary (ie not directly related to combustion) emissions
> 57: the specific fault code
>
> P0457 is the SAE code for evaporative leak, so I suspect P1457 is
> essentially the same issue.
>
>> Is that a broad category or jsut a few possible parts?

>
> Pretty much the parts from the gas cap to the tank, I think. So it
> could be the cap or the filler tube, or the sensor (I assume there's
> a sensor of some sort that detects an evaporative leak - I've never
> looked into it).
>
> Other parts of the EVAP system are a canister that traps vapors and a
> purge valve and line that allow vapors to enter the engine to be
> burned. I think those would have different codes, though.
>
>


P1457 Leak Detected In EVAP Control System (Acura, Honda)


from http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub.../bl_obd_14.htm
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:30 AM
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Re: check engine light - evap

radar wrote:
> The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have access
> to any list of codes so I have to assume that it really is evap? Is that a
> broad category or jsut a few possible parts?


hows your gas cap? stock? aftermarket? old?

if it doesnt seal well, and its not tightened 10 "clicks" it could
trigger an evap code.
 
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap

Hi Mike, it's actually a new gas cap. After I had changed the purge control
solenoid and the 2 bypass valves(at the dealer) put on a new gas cap (yes
it's honda and not aftermarket), cleared the code at the dealer and a day
and a half later the light came back on. Brang new cap I only tight about 5
clicks or so.



"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> radar wrote:
> > The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have

access
> > to any list of codes so I have to assume that it really is evap? Is that

a
> > broad category or jsut a few possible parts?

>
> hows your gas cap? stock? aftermarket? old?
>
> if it doesnt seal well, and its not tightened 10 "clicks" it could
> trigger an evap code.



 
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:40 PM
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i don't think it is the gas cap. it could be a sensor module in the evap canister. since i can't hear what your car sounds like i can't really tell. I do know that i got that code before and you need to fix that asap or you might end up getting codes p0300. I believe the part you need to replace should be on the fuel tank side, driver side beneath the passenger door. That is the location of the evap sensor controls. it's a small piece about $60US from a honda dealer. I know because that's how much I paid. before $20 for labor. Basically it's a leak in a valve down their that needs to be replaced cause the fuel isn't sending to the front of the car. i wouldn't be surprised if after you fix this that you would get other codes. If i ever find the part that you need i'll post it,
 
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Old 09-02-2005, 08:31 AM
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Re: check engine light - evap

"radar" <disposable.ron@gmail.com.fr.cn.b.ru> wrote in
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>
> The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have
> access to any list of codes



http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/error....html#enhanced


> so I have to assume that it really is
> evap? Is that a broad category or jsut a few possible parts?



P0442 and P0456 are small evap leaks. P0457 is a loose gas cap. Those are
mandated by the EPA, and are common to all makes and models.

Your code is a non-mandated "enhanced" code. Honda decided to put it in
there themselves.
P1456 is an evap leak having to do with the /fuel tank system/.
P1457 is an evap leak having to do with the /charcoal canister system/.

You may have a damaged line or something. Has the car ever been in a
collision?



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Old 09-02-2005, 08:31 AM
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Re: check engine light - evap

"radar" <disposable.ron@gmail.com.fr.cn.b.ru> wrote in
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> Hi Mike, it's actually a new gas cap. After I had changed the purge
> control solenoid and the 2 bypass valves(at the dealer) put on a new
> gas cap (yes it's honda and not aftermarket), cleared the code at the
> dealer and a day and a half later the light came back on. Brang new
> cap I only tight about 5 clicks or so.



It has nothing to do with your gas cap. That would be code P0457.

See my other message.


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Old 09-02-2005, 04:35 PM
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Re: check engine light - evap

Ok, I'll go with the suggestion of:

> P1457 is an evap leak having to do with the /charcoal canister system/.


to your question about the damage - no it hasn't been in an accident before
that I know of. I got the car when it had only 23,000KM on it and now a year
and half later I'm at 65,000km when this all started.


"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "radar" <disposable.ron@gmail.com.fr.cn.b.ru> wrote in
> news:4315d573$1_2@news.cybersurf.net:
>
>>
>> The OBDII code was (and still is) P1457 for evap leak. I don't have
>> access to any list of codes

>
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/error....html#enhanced
>
>
>> so I have to assume that it really is
>> evap? Is that a broad category or jsut a few possible parts?

>
>
> P0442 and P0456 are small evap leaks. P0457 is a loose gas cap. Those are
> mandated by the EPA, and are common to all makes and models.
>
> Your code is a non-mandated "enhanced" code. Honda decided to put it in
> there themselves.
> P1456 is an evap leak having to do with the /fuel tank system/.
> P1457 is an evap leak having to do with the /charcoal canister system/.
>
> You may have a damaged line or something. Has the car ever been in a
> collision?
>
>
>
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:30 AM
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check engine light

help on oxygen content , what does it mean? can it be fix by cleaning it or
spraying with brake cleaner?

 
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:31 AM
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"andrew45" <aqb117@comcast.net> wrote in
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> help on oxygen content , what does it mean? can it be fix by cleaning
> it or spraying with brake cleaner?
>
>



Make?
Model?
Year?
Error code number encountered?

We're not mind-readers here, you know.

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Old 09-06-2005, 10:31 AM
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "andrew45" <aqb117@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:8fdd4c3ac6ebaa4eac3ba199fbaccb8e@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:
>
>> help on oxygen content , what does it mean? can it be fix by cleaning
>> it or spraying with brake cleaner?
>>
>>

>
>
> Make?
> Model?
> Year?
> Error code number encountered?
>
> We're not mind-readers here, you know.


The OP said it was a 2000 Accord.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:30 PM
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Re: check engine light

andrew45 wrote:
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> help on oxygen content , what does it mean? can it be fix by cleaning it or
> spraying with brake cleaner?


========================

WAY too many details . . information overload. All you've told us is
your name.

'Curly'
 
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Old 09-06-2005, 03:30 PM
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"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in news:eN-dnXYGRaypAoDeRVn-3A@comcast.com:

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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns96C94AB93FCA2tegger@207.14.113.17...
>> "andrew45" <aqb117@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:8fdd4c3ac6ebaa4eac3ba199fbaccb8e@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:
>>
>>> help on oxygen content , what does it mean? can it be fix by cleaning
>>> it or spraying with brake cleaner?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Make?
>> Model?
>> Year?
>> Error code number encountered?
>>
>> We're not mind-readers here, you know.

>
> The OP said it was a 2000 Accord.




He did? My news provided must have dropped that post, becuase all I see is
what I replied to.

In any case, he has not given the exact error code.

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