Hi everyone,


I have an intermittent problem with my ABS light that just
recently started about 2 weeks ago. My father took my Integra out 2
weeks ago and noticed that the ABS light came on. When I had a chance
to look at it, the ABS light was off on the next start. It hasn't come
on since yesterday when I left the car sitting for about 24 hrs. I
drove it last night to put in gas and after I started the car on the
light came back on. Since it was dark and I didn't want to play around
with it last night I waited until this afternoon to check the error
code. Well what a surprise, the light was once again out today.
I've had a look at a couple of posts on google and some
suggested that I change the fluid and purge out the air. I can be
about 95% (car was my cousin's) sure that the fluid hasn't been
changed in the ABS (I changed the fluid this year in the regular brake
lines) could this be what is causing my intermittent problem? The
filler value and the bleeder valve are very close together on the ABS
unit, if I keep adding fluid and draining it from the bleeder valve
will that cycle through the entire system?
I'll try to obtain the code the next time it comes on but any
help before I can obtain the code would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nick

 

Nick <> wrote in news:ufltk112qo266gl8o1l8q2df7fkiama8th@4ax.com:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
> I have an intermittent problem with my ABS light that just
> recently started about 2 weeks ago. My father took my Integra out 2
> weeks ago and noticed that the ABS light came on. When I had a chance
> to look at it, the ABS light was off on the next start. It hasn't come
> on since yesterday when I left the car sitting for about 24 hrs. I
> drove it last night to put in gas and after I started the car on the
> light came back on. Since it was dark and I didn't want to play around
> with it last night I waited until this afternoon to check the error
> code. Well what a surprise, the light was once again out today.



Uh, lets see...light's off initially, but comes on once on the move.

Ohhh...Currrrly!!!! Time to add this to the FAQ?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

On 10/13/05 4:58 PM, in article ufltk112qo266gl8o1l8q2df7fkiama8th@4ax.com,
"Nick" <Nick> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
> I have an intermittent problem with my ABS light that just
> recently started about 2 weeks ago. My father took my Integra out 2
> weeks ago and noticed that the ABS light came on. When I had a chance
> to look at it, the ABS light was off on the next start. It hasn't come
> on since yesterday when I left the car sitting for about 24 hrs. I
> drove it last night to put in gas and after I started the car on the
> light came back on. Since it was dark and I didn't want to play around
> with it last night I waited until this afternoon to check the error
> code. Well what a surprise, the light was once again out today.
> I've had a look at a couple of posts on google and some
> suggested that I change the fluid and purge out the air. I can be
> about 95% (car was my cousin's) sure that the fluid hasn't been
> changed in the ABS (I changed the fluid this year in the regular brake
> lines) could this be what is causing my intermittent problem? The
> filler value and the bleeder valve are very close together on the ABS
> unit, if I keep adding fluid and draining it from the bleeder valve
> will that cycle through the entire system?
> I'll try to obtain the code the next time it comes on but any
> help before I can obtain the code would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick

On those times when the light comes on, does the pump run occasionally for a
couple of minutes first? These systems try to maintain pressure and if they
fail to hold pressure after pumping themselves up a number of times, then
the light comes on, usually about 2 minutes after you start it up. If this
is what is happening, then if you are lucky, it could be debris interfering
with the internal valves.

Change the fluid (make sure you follow the prescribed procedure - you don't
want to introduce air into the system).

After you change the fluid, then exercise the ABS. The light has to be off.
find a gravel or dirt road and lock the brakes from about 40 mph so that the
ABS engages. If there is crud in the valves, this will sometimes clear it
up.

There was also a TSB on the ABS on the '95 integras that identified a
problem with leaks at the external plugs. If this is the problem, then it
actually is fixable (usually its not).

 

Nick wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have an intermittent problem with my ABS light that just
> recently started about 2 weeks ago. My father took my Integra out 2
> weeks ago and noticed that the ABS light came on. When I had a chance
> to look at it, the ABS light was off on the next start. It hasn't come
> on since yesterday when I left the car sitting for about 24 hrs. I
> drove it last night to put in gas and after I started the car on the
> light came back on. Since it was dark and I didn't want to play around
> with it last night I waited until this afternoon to check the error
> code. Well what a surprise, the light was once again out today.
> I've had a look at a couple of posts on google and some
> suggested that I change the fluid and purge out the air. I can be
> about 95% (car was my cousin's) sure that the fluid hasn't been
> changed in the ABS (I changed the fluid this year in the regular brake
> lines) could this be what is causing my intermittent problem? The
> filler value and the bleeder valve are very close together on the ABS
> unit, if I keep adding fluid and draining it from the bleeder valve
> will that cycle through the entire system?
> I'll try to obtain the code the next time it comes on but any
> help before I can obtain the code would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick

---------------------------------

Search google .com for abs accord dtc. My hard drive died, or I'd send
you this article . . possibly written by 'Paul Oshiro'

Eight pages long explaining the early and later aBS systems in Hondas.

'Curly'

 

The ABS pump hasn't show any excessive time when it has activated
before or while it came on so I don't think that there is a problem
with that. I'm going to change the fluid in the morning and hope for
the best. We're finally going to get some sun in the northeast
tomorrow so that I can work on this after a week of rain.


Nick

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:23:38 GMT, E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote:

>On 10/13/05 4:58 PM, in article ufltk112qo266gl8o1l8q2df7fkiama8th@4ax.com,
>"Nick" <Nick> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have an intermittent problem with my ABS light that just
>> recently started about 2 weeks ago. My father took my Integra out 2
>> weeks ago and noticed that the ABS light came on. When I had a chance
>> to look at it, the ABS light was off on the next start. It hasn't come
>> on since yesterday when I left the car sitting for about 24 hrs. I
>> drove it last night to put in gas and after I started the car on the
>> light came back on. Since it was dark and I didn't want to play around
>> with it last night I waited until this afternoon to check the error
>> code. Well what a surprise, the light was once again out today.
>> I've had a look at a couple of posts on google and some
>> suggested that I change the fluid and purge out the air. I can be
>> about 95% (car was my cousin's) sure that the fluid hasn't been
>> changed in the ABS (I changed the fluid this year in the regular brake
>> lines) could this be what is causing my intermittent problem? The
>> filler value and the bleeder valve are very close together on the ABS
>> unit, if I keep adding fluid and draining it from the bleeder valve
>> will that cycle through the entire system?
>> I'll try to obtain the code the next time it comes on but any
>> help before I can obtain the code would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nick
>
>On those times when the light comes on, does the pump run occasionally for a
>couple of minutes first? These systems try to maintain pressure and if they
>fail to hold pressure after pumping themselves up a number of times, then
>the light comes on, usually about 2 minutes after you start it up. If this
>is what is happening, then if you are lucky, it could be debris interfering
>with the internal valves.
>
>Change the fluid (make sure you follow the prescribed procedure - you don't
>want to introduce air into the system).
>
>After you change the fluid, then exercise the ABS. The light has to be off.
>find a gravel or dirt road and lock the brakes from about 40 mph so that the
>ABS engages. If there is crud in the valves, this will sometimes clear it
>up.
>
>There was also a TSB on the ABS on the '95 integras that identified a
>problem with leaks at the external plugs. If this is the problem, then it
>actually is fixable (usually its not).

 

The pump won't run constantly. It just comes on for about half a second
once every 30 seconds or so. Once the light comes on, the system is
disabled, so nothing runs after that.

On 10/14/05 10:34 PM, in article lut0l191h4fjt720lf8on0brn7flm18l61@4ax.com,
"Nick" <Nick> wrote:

> The ABS pump hasn't show any excessive time when it has activated
> before or while it came on so I don't think that there is a problem
> with that. I'm going to change the fluid in the morning and hope for
> the best. We're finally going to get some sun in the northeast
> tomorrow so that I can work on this after a week of rain.
>
>
> Nick
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:23:38 GMT, E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/05 4:58 PM, in article ufltk112qo266gl8o1l8q2df7fkiama8th@4ax.com,
>> "Nick" <Nick> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an intermittent problem with my ABS light that just
>>> recently started about 2 weeks ago. My father took my Integra out 2
>>> weeks ago and noticed that the ABS light came on. When I had a chance
>>> to look at it, the ABS light was off on the next start. It hasn't come
>>> on since yesterday when I left the car sitting for about 24 hrs. I
>>> drove it last night to put in gas and after I started the car on the
>>> light came back on. Since it was dark and I didn't want to play around
>>> with it last night I waited until this afternoon to check the error
>>> code. Well what a surprise, the light was once again out today.
>>> I've had a look at a couple of posts on google and some
>>> suggested that I change the fluid and purge out the air. I can be
>>> about 95% (car was my cousin's) sure that the fluid hasn't been
>>> changed in the ABS (I changed the fluid this year in the regular brake
>>> lines) could this be what is causing my intermittent problem? The
>>> filler value and the bleeder valve are very close together on the ABS
>>> unit, if I keep adding fluid and draining it from the bleeder valve
>>> will that cycle through the entire system?
>>> I'll try to obtain the code the next time it comes on but any
>>> help before I can obtain the code would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>> On those times when the light comes on, does the pump run occasionally for a
>> couple of minutes first? These systems try to maintain pressure and if they
>> fail to hold pressure after pumping themselves up a number of times, then
>> the light comes on, usually about 2 minutes after you start it up. If this
>> is what is happening, then if you are lucky, it could be debris interfering
>> with the internal valves.
>>
>> Change the fluid (make sure you follow the prescribed procedure - you don't
>> want to introduce air into the system).
>>
>> After you change the fluid, then exercise the ABS. The light has to be off.
>> find a gravel or dirt road and lock the brakes from about 40 mph so that the
>> ABS engages. If there is crud in the valves, this will sometimes clear it
>> up.
>>
>> There was also a TSB on the ABS on the '95 integras that identified a
>> problem with leaks at the external plugs. If this is the problem, then it
>> actually is fixable (usually its not).
>

 

I recommend that you get the ABS code first. All you need is a paper clip. The jumper is located under the glove box on the right side. The 94-97 integras are known for having many different types of ABS failures.

From the symptons that you are describing, it seems like one of the o-rings for the abs system needs to be replaced as the abs system is unable to maintain a sufficient pressure.

Check out www.honda-tech.com or www.team-integra.net for more help.

 

I agree, pull the code first. I've had a string of bad luck with the left rear wheel sensors on 3 Honda/Acuras.