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kroze 02-25-2009 11:06 AM

Who got Remote Starter installed in their fit?
 
Just wanted to know how much was it? I'm interested in getting a remote starter installed on my car. I heard that you'll need some type of "transponder" to bypass the factory security?

minnemike 02-25-2009 05:09 PM

For the '09 - my dealer actually recomended an aftermarket brand and said the OEM version will require a restart of the engine. The aftermarket would be much cheaper and support 2000 ft. as well. I can't recall the exact brand/model, but installed it was $450 compared to the $700s for OEM.

heymikesays 02-26-2009 01:35 AM

bump for this.

Kittengolf 02-26-2009 01:42 AM

I know in Ohio and Maryland remote starters are a big problem if they don't require a restart. Its a fairly large fine for leaving a a vehicle unattended while its running in Maryland and I think it could cost your license here in Ohio. I think the restart is worth it if you are using it for the intended purpose (to warm up your motor in cold-as-balls weather). Not to mention the safety features that kill the motor if someone tries to start the car. (I live ina n area that is both very cold in the winter and prone to car theft.) Also the fact that Honda warranties the remote start they install is pretty nice.

1madman 02-26-2009 08:55 PM

i have one on my 08 sport. and a bypass did need to be installed to bypasss key security. does not require a restart. installer used a python 991.

Shaggs2Dope 03-15-2009 03:44 AM

I want a remote start so bad, the car really is a slug if you don't warm it up before you drive it. I know the actual driving is supposed to warm it up but my street turns onto a 50mph road, so if you don't punch it off the bat and time it right you have a bad accident. Having the Remote Start would be nice. I would love to have an OEM honda one

713_fit 03-15-2009 01:10 PM

viper 5901
good stuff i heard

rushlow 03-15-2009 02:08 PM

I have a compustar 2-way alarm + started. love it. It definately has a transponder/device that bypasses the immobilizer. Mine was just under 600CAD and is pretty much loaded featurewise

ERyan1189 03-16-2009 05:57 PM

i got an Autopage remote start in my GE, had a well known installer put it in for $250.... beats my nearby Honda dealers quote of $900 minimum

OhNineFIT 03-18-2009 12:02 AM

i got a clifford 50.5x with remote start, and it works like a beauty.. You will need a immobilizer bypass in order for the remote start to work.

danger69 03-31-2009 11:09 PM

Which immobilizer are people using? I am going to have my old alarm installed w/ remote start and window roll up/down. I have a DEI 555I. Will this be okay with my remote start?

FITMugen 10-04-2009 04:49 PM

I have OEM accessory "REMOTE ENGINE STARTER" installed in my 09 FIT Sport AT/VSA/NAV. I bought it from a dealer on eBay for $378 and installed it myself. However, I had to take my car to a local deal to program it for $65. It is PnP.

Remote Engine Starter Unit Kit
P/N 08E91-E22-101B

MetalFit630 10-05-2009 12:14 AM

My Viper 5701V is easily the best thing I've done to my Fit. Remote start and everything. This alarm can do so much, it's absolutely incredible.

I installed it myself, but that's what I do for a living, so no big deal. It does require a bypass module, but no restart. I used the PKALL module from Directed Electronics. There actually should be at least 12 different modules that will work for it. The PKALL works for almost all Honda's and Acuras. It's nice because it self-programs and does NOT require a key to live in the module (in order to scan the chip). The module will automatically scan the chip in the key when you put it into program mode, and retains the information.

I live in Southern California, so I don't have to worry about it getting below freezing. But I do leave the AC on when it's hot, and let my car run for 1-2 minutes before going to it. And when it is cold (which is no lower than 40F) I'll let it run for ten minutes to heat up. The alarm will start the car if it gets to 30F outside (this is programmable between -20F and 40F) and will start if it gets about 120F (this is also programmable between 90F and 130F). The car will also start if my battery's voltage drops below 12.3 volts, and this is programmable also.

What else can you do with this? Well my next step is purchase 2 window control modules that will allow me to roll the windows down or up, and will roll the windows up when I arm the alarm. Then I will program the alarm, using an AUX output on it and a relay, to be able to toggle the rear defrost on. Then I will be using two more AUX outputs on the alarm, along with a programmable steering wheel control module, to be able to turn my systems volume up or down. That way I can turn on my Fit, roll down the windows, and CRANK up the system. No real reason to do it, just because I like to tinker around.

Also the alarm is 2-way with a 1 mile range. That means that if your alarm goes off, it pages your remote. On a side note, for those of you with iPhones: Viper is releasing a Viper 5901V. It's the same as the 5701V, but with a nicer LCD remote. And there will be a module that you can purchase abd hook up to the alarm that will turn your iPhone into a remote. That means that if your car is California, and you're in New York, you can turn on your car, disarm the alarm, or be notified when your alarm goes off. Freakin crazy!

So yes, remote start is awesome. My alarm, the Viper 5701V, is $400, including basic installation at Best Buy. The bypass module was $80 at Best Buy as well.

awptickes 02-19-2010 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by FITMugen (Post 758125)
I have OEM accessory "REMOTE ENGINE STARTER" installed in my 09 FIT Sport AT/VSA/NAV. I bought it from a dealer on eBay for $378 and installed it myself. However, I had to take my car to a local deal to program it for $65. It is PnP.

Remote Engine Starter Unit Kit
P/N 08E91-E22-101B

To confirm: The car was drivable after you plugged everything in?

FITMugen 02-19-2010 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by awptickes (Post 815356)
To confirm: The car was drivable after you plugged everything in?

Yes, it is drivable as before installing. Just the remote engine start will not function until you program it with HDS by a dealer.

phogroian 01-04-2012 11:27 PM

MetalFit630, how tough was the remote start installation? I'm thinking of installing the Viper 5701V Remote start kit with an Xpresskit PKH34 bypass. What else will I need?.

Goobers 01-05-2012 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by phogroian (Post 1061544)
MetalFit630, how tough was the remote start installation? I'm thinking of installing the Viper 5701V Remote start kit with an Xpresskit PKH34 bypass. What else will I need?.

that person hasn't been active for a LONG time (since sept '10). this thread hasn't be active since before that, even. (edit: I just re-read his post... he had it installed at Best Buy anyway).

pretty dead.

I can't really answer your question, because I have no experience with it... but I'd say, if you're not comfortable splicing wires... let a pro do it.

phogroian 01-05-2012 07:54 AM

Thanks Goobers. Even though it is an old thread, I thought it would be better to continue an established one instead of starting yet another one. From what I gather, Viper 5701V Remote start kit is:

1) Compatible with the 2nd generation Fit,
2) Is in some ways (not requiring a restart) a more attractive option than the OEM unit,
3) Can be installed by Best Buy (assuming they have a competent technician on staff),
4) Requires a separate data ecryption key "bypass" unit to get around the car's anti-theft feature.

The PKALL unit is mentioned, but in doing an online search it seems that the
Xpresskit PKH34 seems like a custom fit for late model Hondas.
I'm not afraid of tackling wiring projects, but am more worried about how difficult it will be to access the wires. Has anyone done this installation? Are there more modules that I need to buy or should get for added features?


Goobers 01-05-2012 10:56 AM

I think if you're gonna let BB do the install, they might actually get the bypass module for you as part of the installation (and charge you for it).

Using Viper's site to build a system, they keep referencing DBALL.

phogroian 01-05-2012 11:33 AM

I've noticed that Viper does not want anyone but an authorized dealer to install the unit. I don't know how good the BB technicians are or how long the warrant their work, but it looks tempting, because there is a lot of work involved. Viper doesn't publish the install manual, but I found it here:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N5202V_2008_02web.pdf

I hadn't heard of the DBALL unit... but sure enough, it is what the Viper website recommends (XpressKit Databus All Interface Module, or DBALL) when I entered a 2010 Honda Fit as my vehicle, and the 5701 as my preferred remote start unit.

PKALL, PKH34, DBALL? has anyone here installed one of these, or had it installed, and can make a recommendation?
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Update:

Looks as if the DBALL is a universal unit that needs to be flashed with Honda-specific software: 401.HONDA4 2.15 vH00.S00.D08. it handles Door lock control and transponder override. According to the user manual, it: " Controls and monitors standard factory security and convenience features such as door locks, alarm,
sliding doors, hood and trunk status, as well as tach output plus data transponder interface".

Here is the PHK34 verbiage:

Honda Acura Transponder Data Override Interface: No Key Required fixed firmware BYPASSKIT for almost all Honda
and Acura vehicles. (See vehicle application guide for more specific coverage)
Includes a new D2D port for secure override when paired with D2D enabled remote start system.
Product Description:
PKH34 is a fixed Honda and Acura Transponder Data Override Interface solution that works on almost all 2001 to 2011
Honda and Acura vehicles. 100% compatible with any remote start system, PKH34 is also the first BYPASSKIT fixed
firmware solution to add an enhanced data security override activation port (D2D). The D2D activation port takes the
PKH34 BYPASSKIT to another level when paired with any remote start system using the D2D communication protocol.
D2D (data to data) is the same communication protocol used with the XPRESSKIT line of programmable vehicle
modules, however in the case of the PKH34 the data port is used solely as data activation input when paired with a
similarly equipped D2D remote start system. Security of the override module is enhanced by disabling all analogue
inputs whenever the module detects communication with a D2D enabled remote start system. This prevents the

override feature from being activated by any other method other than the remote start system.

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Update:
I got an answer from customer service: The programmable, generic DB-ALL is not needed if the PKH34 is used. The PKH34 is specific to late model Hondas.

jayhawker 01-17-2012 10:24 PM

I have an Ungo SR9000 installed in mine and have the remote start. I know a lot will say it's not safe to have the remote start on a manual but I am aware of the risks. I have rarely used it as I get garage parking at work, and its parked in the garage at home. Just like to cool it down a bit when it sits in the sun for a few hours when we are out shopping.

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Blkfitsprt 01-18-2012 09:03 AM

That is a lot of wires!. I have a Compustar two way car starter with alarm. Here in Winnipeg you need command start!. Going to be -35°C (-31°F) here with the windchill today and -31°C (-23.8°F)tonight without windchill.

Also great to pre-cool the car in the summer months.

Chris

rockoutguy 04-07-2012 01:56 PM

I'm working in a remote starter in my 2011 fit sport MT. You guys that have installed remote starters in your fits how did you connect the bypasses? And how did you connect the parking lights? Theres 2 wires for the parking lights one at the headlight switch and one Nader the dash fusebox. Also which bypass did you use? The xpresskit dball? Or an idatalink/omega? I have another thread going about my install if any of you can help.

I made a posting, which I'm going to clean up as an install guide once I get it working:

contortpiezo 10-03-2012 04:46 PM

Just got a 2011 Fit Sport AT, I have been installing remote starts alarms for years l. I got started at best buy and now I'm on to bigger and better things but I still install rs/alarms in all my cars. I have the iPhone and the three modules I needed to get this installed in my car were the
• Xpresskit DB-ALL using install option 2 in the install guide
• Viper 5104v remote start alarm brain
• Viper VSM-250 smart start interface.

I went with the cheapest viper model rs/alarm brain because infinite range and 2 way communication are handled by the vsm250 smart start which talks to your phone. Also the DB-ALL makes for super easy installation. I only had to hook up about 12 wires versus the 26+ without it.

Here's the real kicker though, for those of you out there with manual transmissions, the viper 5104 is set up to safely remote start a manual out of the box, without janky handmade reed switch brackets and whatnot. It does this by having to follow a shutdown sequence in order to remote start it.

Dig: to engage manual transmission start mode you do this.
• With your car running, shift into neutral
• place foot on brake and engage E-brake
• let foot off brake
• press the remote start button on the fob. The remote starter is now controlling the car.
• turn key to off position and remove key (car will still be running)
• exit car
• shut car door
• press the lock button on the fob (doors lock and car shuts off)

You can now remote start your car.
The car will not remote start if any of the following occurs:

• shutdown sequence is incorrect
• door/trunk/hood is opened after locked
• alarm is triggered
So basically if there's any possibility of someone getting in and changing the gear it won't start.

This is the SAFEST AND EASIEST way to do a remote start on a manual.

I put this exact same setup in my 1989 honda CRX Si (sans DB-ALL, this car is pre data bus) and it works beautifully.


It's by far the best setup IMHO.

Goobers 10-17-2012 11:05 AM

edit:scratch that

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I got my remote starter installed last week (Thursday, 10/11/12), on my 2010 MT Fit at a nearby electronics store. I don't have a service manual for the Fit and don't particularly feel like fucking up my car (since I've never done such an install before).

I originally had picked the Viper 5904 when I set the appointment a few days before. But when I went to have it installed, I asked if I could change it to the VSS5000. But during the install, the installer ran into a pair of difficulties... one being that the module in the VSS5000 didn't work with manual trans. The second was, the replacement module was bad, needing ANOTHER replacement.

In the end, I got, what basically amounts to the 5104 + VSM200. The VSM250 has additional GPS features over the VSM200. And if I had known it was going to be two systems bundled, I might've asked for the 250. Oh well.

There's one little quirk that's been annoying me. The auto door locks... or rather, UN-lock.

Before I got the system installed, I had the door set up to automatically unlock when I pull my keys. And for all intents and purposes, it's still setup that way. But, when I arm the remote starter, the engine stays on... and the doors don't unlock when I pull my keys. So I have to manually unlock them.

Once I'm out and hit the lock button, the car shuts off and locks the doors. Then a few seconds later, I hear the locks triggering AGAIN. Don't know if that's related though.

This probably the only time I wished I had an automatic transmission Fit. If I had the A/T, I could set the doors to unlock when shifting into Park. I also wouldn't have to deal with the whole shutdown sequence. Sure, it's roughly how I park my car anyway (only needing to get used to the FOB portion)... but I can't get into my Fit to grab something I might've forgotten without disarming the remote starter. And being forced to start up the car and go through the sequence AGAIN, just to rearm it.:(

I've been searching online to see if there's a setting for the Viper system to unlock my doors when I hit the button during my shutdown sequence, so I don't have to manually unlock the doors to get out.

KB1 01-06-2017 05:40 PM

Real Information
 
I have actually purchased and installed the Viper remote start on a Honda Accord.
I am not a professional automotive electrician or mechanic (any more), but I have used my tooks, soldering iron and skills on multi-million dollar computers, networks and other delicate electronics without once having to say "oops" in a permanent way.
You will have to do things in limited spaces with limited lighting. Many times you will wish you could use both hands when only one will fit. Have you ever cut a cable bundle, found the right wire, stripped it and spliced into it with one hand?
1 - There is sufficient security in any reputable system to prevent theft of your vehicle or dangerous issues (engine running high speed, engine damage, environmental damage, fire, etc) incorporated into the remote start system.
2 - If you have issues hooking up your home theater system or car stereo, have a professional install your remote start.
3 - If you are no longer lean and limber with excellent manual dexterity and visual acuity, have a professional install your remote start.
4 - If you bought your electronics tools from Radio Shack, Wal-Mart or don't know the difference between dikes, wire cutters, strippers or cable cutters, or if you have all those tools in a combination tool, have a professional install your remote start.
5 - If you don't have the patience to completely read the instructions, including all the silly cautions and hints before you start and watch a YouTube video, have a professional install your remote start.
6 - If you frustrate easily and swear a lot, make sure nobody who will be easily offended is in the area.
7 - If you don't know the difference between when to use heat shrink and when to use electrical tape, have a professional install.
8 - Make sure someone can hear you scream and come running with a fire extinguisher and first aid kit if, in spite of everything, you screw up.
9 - If you're doing it yourself because you can't afford a professional install, you definitely can't afford a professional to repair your catastrophe.

Now, if you still feel confident, go for it! I use a website called Aliexpress.com to get expensive electronic gadgets that I need from time to time. Be careful who you deal with and you must have good interpretation skills to understand the details of what is being offered. Most sellers use computer translation, are very liberal with their description of what something does and its compatibilty and even more liberal with the specifications of a specific item. For example, they may offer a "Transponder key blank for a 2013 Honda Fit for $12", but check the details to make sure it includes the transponder (not just a space for it) and that it is at the same frequency as your current key. It usually takes 3-4 weeks to get what you need. I purchased a Bluetooth OBDII interface there for under $10 that the Torque Pro app on my android phone says is "a cheap knock off", but has provided reliable, accurate service.

milesvanren 12-11-2017 12:34 PM

Does anyone know if the Remote Engine Start System 08E92-E54-400B will work on my wife's 2016 5 door EX KA CVT?
Dealer recommends the Remote Engine Start System ii 08E92-E54-100 (but it's $200+ vs. a new 400B on eBay for $50!)

Mcflurry 04-15-2019 12:02 AM

I want remote start too!!
 
I want a remote start, too!! Waaaaaa

Originally Posted by ERyan1189 (Post 606993)
i got an Autopage remote start in my GE, had a well known installer put it in for $250.... beats my nearby Honda dealers quote of $900 minimum


woodenpickle 04-21-2021 01:35 PM

100% Plug n play remote start with factory fob...
 
I know this is an old thread, but I just purchased a 2019 Fit EX a couple months back and figured I'd put this here for others searching google.. this post/thread comes up right at the top still.

I've had remote start on my previous 4 vehicles, and I really can't go without it any more.. it's like going to 2 monitors on your work computer, then of course you have to get a second monitor for your home computer. You just can't go back. I called a local Honda dealer here in Salt Lake City (UT) and they quoted me around $1100 part & labor to put in the "factory" remote start. No way.

After quite a bit of looking around, I settled on the Compustar Firstech FT-DC3-LC (about $103 online) for the brains of the unit. I picked up an iDataLink ADS-THR-HA10 t-harness for $30 (BB online order, picked up locally). I believe the iDataLink ADS-THR-HA7 would also have worked with my car, but it doesn't support secure takeover (car stays running when getting in after remote starting) and the HA10 does, so I went with that. They were the same price when I purchased them anyway. Since this is the first starter I have put in myself, I had to buy a $40 programming cable to update/program the FT-DC3-LC unit. That can all be done online for free. So all things considered, I'm in to it about $180ish after tax, and about 3 hours of a Saturday afternoon.

This all went in with zero wire splicing/tapping, and works by just pressing the lock button on the factory keyfob 3 times. All the lights flash as they should, and the beep part happens as it should as well. You do have to run a wire from the FT-DC3-LC under the dash to a hood pin kill switch, but that doesn't tap into the car wiring at all. Also, this setup DOES NOT require any bypass module. When they flash the module, they use a key cloning technology that passes the info to the car when the remote start is activated. So initially you flash this on the computer for the year/make of the car, then you plug this into the car and start it manually, press the brake, hit the learn button on the unit.. stuff like that. Works like a charm. Then you return it to the computer to finish the flashing of the feature settings (of which there are a TON).

One other note, I did find a strange button screwed into the bottom of my dash panel while I was taking things apart. After searching around, found that it was one of those KARR alarms that I guess dealers like to have installed. The wires from that are all tapped into the car's wiring harness... hopefully that doesn't cause any issues down the road. But I checked after putting in this remote start system, and the alarm part still worked fine (which I guess is an issue with some aftermarket remote start systems).

I didn't really take any pics of much of my install, but I did get one showing about how much I had to disassemble to do the install.. You can see the top end of the t-harness right behind the instrument cluster. The unit is kinda just hanging down by the floor. This was just for the initial starting part for the device to "learn" my car key.

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