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RJinVA Jun 20, 2026 11:12 AM

If you think 0w-20 oil is bad, you're wrong...
 
I see a ton of talk about how 0w-20 oil is bad for engines, this is based off of nothing but uneducated guesswork and opinions. I autocross my Fit and drive it HARD during my daily commute. In May I had an autocross weekend where we had two events in a row, Saturday and Sunday, I decided to run the same 0w-20 oil for both events then another couple of thousand miles afterwards for daily commuting duties and then have the oil analyzed, results speak for themselves.

If you're running 0w-30 or 5w30 you're losing horsepower and efficiency. Stick with what the engineers recommend and make sure you're using high quality oil that meets the factory recommended API rating.
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Mister Coffee Jun 20, 2026 12:59 PM

@RJinVA Thanks for posting this report. I agree with you.

While all Internet oil discussions tend to get mental, the attack on 0W20 is really off the charts. I used to enjoy BobIsTheOilGuy, but the high-post-count bullies have settled in and you won't last a minute until you commit to switching to heavier all in all applications.

Are you auto crossing an auto trans or an MT?

RJinVA Jun 20, 2026 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mister Coffee (Post 1495744)
@RJinVA Thanks for posting this report. I agree with you.

While all Internet oil discussions tend to get mental, the attack on 0W20 is really off the charts. I used to enjoy BobIsTheOilGuy, but the high-post-count bullies have settled in and you won't last a minute until you commit to switching to heavier all in all applications.

Are you auto crossing an auto trans or an MT?

The problem is that most oil discussions just involve Dunning Kruger effect individuals who are probably low IQ and overestimating their knowledge, skills, and abilities. They base it off their incorrect intuition, not science or accurate testing. I like "The Motor Oil Geek" on youtube, everything he does is backed by proper testing. More people should watch that channel.

Running an MT fit in autocross.

MeanMan Jun 20, 2026 03:42 PM

I'm going to take a more nuanced opinion of "it depends".

On the engine in question, the environment in which it's being operated, and how hard it's being operated as well as how frequent the oil is changed and even what era the engine is from.

The L15A for example, probably fine in a much more broad range of conditions than say a turbocharged 4G63 making 2-3 times factory output in summer being pushed hard on a road course. Annnd the rest all depends on so many variables I'm going to say that's the end of my commentary on this topic.

Drew21 Jun 20, 2026 05:11 PM

Is 0w-20 the manufacturer-recommended oil for a turbocharged 4G63 making 2-3 times factory output?

Comparing that to a stock Fit engine is sort of an apple to watermelon comparison, isn't it?

bobski Jun 20, 2026 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by MeanMan (Post 1495746)
a turbocharged 4G63 making 2-3 times factory output in summer being pushed hard on a road course.

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Alco RS-1 Jun 20, 2026 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by RJinVA (Post 1495742)
I see a ton of talk about how 0w-20 oil is bad for engines, this is based off of nothing but uneducated guesswork and opinions. ...

In my experience, I'd agree. Our normal use 2013 Fit has 160,000 Miles on it and consumes very little oil, perhaps 1/4 to at most 1/2 QT every 10,000 Miles. That's just my experience; it may differ for others.

OliveOil Jun 20, 2026 07:14 PM

Thanks for the UOA. 0w-20 is all this little engine needs! Just like my 2012 at 163k.

RJinVA Jun 20, 2026 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by MeanMan (Post 1495746)
I'm going to take a more nuanced opinion of "it depends".

On the engine in question, the environment in which it's being operated, and how hard it's being operated as well as how frequent the oil is changed and even what era the engine is from.

The L15A for example, probably fine in a much more broad range of conditions than say a turbocharged 4G63 making 2-3 times factory output in summer being pushed hard on a road course. Annnd the rest all depends on so many variables I'm going to say that's the end of my commentary on this topic.

I also have a GX 460 with a 1UR V8 engine, I run the factory recommended 0w-20 in that too and my UOAs for that vehicle are always excellent, also with the same Kirkland full synthetic. Too many people out there making blanket statements "0w-20 is bad!". My ultimate point, if you're not using UOA to determine what oil works best for your vehicle, you're doing it wrong. The vast majority of people will find that the factory recommended oil is just fine permitting it meets API requirements and is a quality product.


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