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EQB356 01-05-2013 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Sloppy_Snood (Post 1154152)
Molybdenum motor assembly pastes solvate in motor oil by design (especially if the oil and motor are already hot). ;)

Nothing to clog really. :)

I suppose one could disolve some in some new motor oil over a heat plate but.....if one is going to all that trouble, you might as well just leave the initial fill oil in. :D

Again, chemically speaking, it is doable. Practically, I wouldn't advise it.

I have used, not yet in the 2012 Fit MT with 8K miles, MOS2 in powder form, ground to 1-5 microns. Most oil filters will not trap anything under 5 microns.

I started using the moly back in 1978 when introduced to it by my A/C VW wrench. It was imported from Germany under the name Lubro Moly and is still available. It's simply a moly suspension in motor oil.

I found the powder form and make my own mixture which I use in all my I/C engines - all sizes, both air and water cooled.
It makes a large difference in lowering friction wear and thus idle speed increases in the pre computer engines.

DaveFL 01-05-2013 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Sloppy_Snood (Post 1154124)
... couple ounces of Moroso Molybdenum Disulfide Grease into the oil fill
Your oil will turn black quickly (expected and normal) but you will have molybdenum disulfide floating around in your oil (good thing). :D

Why doesn't original oil in Fit have black color? It was like any other oil.

EQB356 01-05-2013 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by DaveFL (Post 1155739)
Why doesn't original oil in Fit have black color? It was like any other oil.

As I understand, the factory applied a moly coating to the piston skirt which would eventually wear off. Beyond that, I have no knowledge.

Will

SilverBullet 01-05-2013 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by nikita (Post 1155326)
Ive been using Chevron dino oils (Delo 400 and Supreme) for longer than that and never had a single issue with it. So what? Every modern motor oil is so good (as long as you use the correct type and viscosity) that there should be no issues. Typical, and rare, engine failures today involve blown head (Ford) or intake manifold (GM) gaskets, overheating (BMW plastic water pumps), etc. Oil lubricated parts have nothing to do with these problems.

With the better oils and the MM you can be assured that it wont hurt the engine. You still need to check the oil level.

Here is info on Oil maintenance meters in general and I would imagine Honda works similar.

Determining Proper Oil and Filter Change Intervals: Can Onboard Automotive Sensors Help?

http://delphi.com/pdf/techpapers/2006-01-0701.pdf

EQB356 01-06-2013 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by SilverBullet (Post 1155752)
With the better oils and the MM you can be assured that it wont hurt the engine. You still need to check the oil level.

Here is info on Oil maintenance meters in general and I would imagine Honda works similar.

Determining Proper Oil and Filter Change Intervals: Can Onboard Automotive Sensors Help?

http://delphi.com/pdf/techpapers/2006-01-0701.pdf

Thanks, SB - informative articles.

Will

SilverBullet 01-06-2013 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by EQB356 (Post 1155796)
Thanks, SB - informative articles.

Will

There is a lot of good info and I spent this weekend researching and understanding oils a little better.


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