V6 Honda Fit Build
What's up FF! I've been eyeballing Fits since they came out in the US, always hoped to get one, then last weekend my dreams came true!
:hyper: So the plan is to drop in a J32a2 mated to an Accord 6 speed. This will eventually replace my all arounder CRX with a b20 vtec, except with AC and (hopefully) power steering. Here is how she made it home after an 800 mile round trip https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8612/...8fe0e7b3_b.jpg There are no Honda dealers around here, so while I was picking up this car I stopped at University Honda in Missoula to get a new key cut since I bought it without a key. Those guys were super helpful with everything and even fit me in late on a Friday. Unfortunately there was a short in the system so they couldn't program the transponder. They did cut me 2 keys and I will probably bypass that system anyway so that there will be no need for the stock ECU. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8594/...12f468b4_b.jpg Rip it apart! https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8614/...8d0c613e_b.jpg I don't know how much power these little things make, but with a v6 you gotta shoot for 300+ https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8653/...a4edf03d_b.jpg Boat anchor installed https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8672/...4e3fce78_b.jpg There is a ton of room in this chassis compared to the EG chassis https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8621/...93c7316d_b.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8625/...350d11c2_b.jpg Here is where I ended today https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/...810d67f5_b.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8602/...f60acc3d_b.jpg Drivers side mount tacked together, needs to be reworked https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8584/...3b2581ce_b.jpg Passenger side could use some extra braces https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8647/...831b0e7e_b.jpg And a little interior shot, wont see many of these in this build https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8596/...2f938b44_b.jpg |
holy crap I'm excited for this one :)
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Monster in the making.
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Originally Posted by PinkBatman
(Post 1295595)
So the plan is to drop in a J32a2 mated to an Accord 6 speed.
... I don't know how much power these little things make, but with a v6 you gotta shoot for 300+ (J37 on the other hand, 300+) |
Good luck on your build. I'm really looking forward to the end result. I'd take this over any of the 4 cylinder K20/K20A swaps.
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A thread that actually lives up to its title! Badass!
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Best first post I've seen. Good luck with the project and please keep us updated.
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Thanks guys!
Originally Posted by Goobers
(Post 1295602)
According to wiki, that specific engine puts out 260 hp. Honda J engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(J37 on the other hand, 300+) Gotta shoot for the moon though. |
wow.
This will be very intersting. 270 n/a. double the power. holy crap. |
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8602/...f60acc3d_b.jpg
This picture has me feeling that the odds of this car ever handling well are incredibly low. The J32 is likely significantly heavier than the L15 (as is its corresponding transmission by comparison), and with it being even farther forward in the car, the weight distribution is going to be seriously weird. Why not just put in a turbo K24 where 400 WHP is child's play? |
Without having couple upgrades here and there. The car will drive like crap.
But as a cruiser, this swap would be perfect. Bigger tires in the front. Passing semi's on the hwy will be a breeeeze. Doubt he's building a track car. N/A > Turbo :) |
Whoa :eek3:
I thought this was going to be a question thread not an I'm doing this right now thread. Very nice. |
Originally Posted by Wanderer.
(Post 1295652)
Whoa :eek3:
I thought this was going to be a question thread not an I'm doing this right now thread. Very nice. |
Originally Posted by DWils
(Post 1295668)
And with pictures too!
I don't envy the guy that has to change the spark plugs on that motor though so I hope OP will put fresh ones in before final assembly :o Then again I guess it's not that much different or more of a pain in the ass than it already is. |
Fresh spark plugs! What am I, made of money?
We are going to be weighing the full motor assemblies after I get the mounts done. I would do it now but I took about 2 hours getting the J lined up so I don't want to do that just yet. I don't recall any numbers but I believe that an NA J is lighter than a turbo K. For people wondering why a J over a K there are a few reasons. I own Prank Parts and we specialize in J series components. Started that because I love how much power the J makes, and you can get them at a junkyard for under $400 and make more power than a pretty heavily build K. I wont claim to know much about the suspension setup on the fit since before this car we have done exclusively EF and EG cars. I have zero worries about how the car will handle. My EG sedan with this same engine has been an excellent SCCA car (partially due to torque and an LSD) and I don't anticipate the Fit being any worse, especially with some real shocks under it. Plus all our road race testing on Civics shows that more weight up front makes the car way more consistent, albeit slightly slower. I also have no qualms about cutting the entire rear swing arm setup off the car and going to something more conventional. If anyone has any more thoughts I would love to hear them. |
Originally Posted by Wanderer.
(Post 1295652)
Whoa :eek3:
I thought this was going to be a question thread not an I'm doing this right now thread. Very nice. |
Originally Posted by 1SickVeilsideZ
(Post 1295625)
Best first post I've seen. Good luck with the project and please keep us updated.
VERY nice! I'm envious; awesome way to save a destroyed Fit. |
Originally Posted by PinkBatman
(Post 1295678)
Fresh spark plugs! What am I, made of money?
We are going to be weighing the full motor assemblies after I get the mounts done. I would do it now but I took about 2 hours getting the J lined up so I don't want to do that just yet. I don't recall any numbers but I believe that an NA J is lighter than a turbo K. For people wondering why a J over a K there are a few reasons. I own Prank Parts and we specialize in J series components. Started that because I love how much power the J makes, and you can get them at a junkyard for under $400 and make more power than a pretty heavily build K. I wont claim to know much about the suspension setup on the fit since before this car we have done exclusively EF and EG cars. I have zero worries about how the car will handle. My EG sedan with this same engine has been an excellent SCCA car (partially due to torque and an LSD) and I don't anticipate the Fit being any worse, especially with some real shocks under it. Plus all our road race testing on Civics shows that more weight up front makes the car way more consistent, albeit slightly slower. I also have no qualms about cutting the entire rear swing arm setup off the car and going to something more conventional. If anyone has any more thoughts I would love to hear them. I'm not sure how the mounting points are compared to the gas Fit, but the Fit EV uses more traditional suspension in the rear as well as disc brakes (I believe) if you can source the parts. I don't doubt your ability to make any modifications that might be needed, so it might be worth looking into. |
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This is probably irrelevant as im guessing you'll be running a standalone, but there's probably no chance this would legally pass inspection via OBD2 port, right? I had a SER Spec V back in the day and they figured out howto swap the VQ from the Maxima and retain the oem ECU plus all functions. Bonus on top was it also passed inspection. I love V6 swaps into small cars. Looking forward to more updates. Will there be a swap kit for purchase in the future? |
Originally Posted by TofuShop
(Post 1295702)
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This is probably irrelevant as im guessing you'll be running a standalone, but there's probably no chance this would legally pass inspection via OBD2 port, right? I had a SER Spec V back in the day and they figured out howto swap the VQ from the Maxima and retain the oem ECU plus all functions. Bonus on top was it also passed inspection. I love V6 swaps into small cars. Looking forward to more updates. Will there be a swap kit for purchase in the future? But this is Montana and we can do pretty much whatever we want! I don't plan on making a kit right now, but if there is enough interest I could make a few sets.
Originally Posted by Wanderer.
(Post 1295699)
I'm not sure how the mounting points are compared to the gas Fit, but the Fit EV uses more traditional suspension in the rear as well as disc brakes (I believe) if you can source the parts. I don't doubt your ability to make any modifications that might be needed, so it might be worth looking into.
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