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Pic of cam specs, weight and Deltacam T-shirt, in 1st post in thread.

 

no pictures Kevin!

 

Sorry JN2k108! I should've been more specific. I added them to the 1st post so new people to the thread would see it. I'll make that clear in my post above as well.

 

How is it?

 

No update! I could (and may) take the chance in installing them as is but I wanted to have the capability to tune the ECU via KTuner (or another manufacturer). Just in case there are any idling issues and so I can get the most out the cams power-wise.

My full plan is to install the Myxal SRI-CAI, larger Honda Civic Maf, the Maxbore throttle body and full J's Racing exhaust to get everything I can breathing wise out of this car. I'm only waiting on the capability to get it tuned or at least know I'll have a good idle with the cams. Most of the Honda threads I've read in other forums that utilized the 272 cams from Deltcam had some issues with idling but all of them liked the power.

So the struggle continues.

 

OK, could you do me a favor? When you ask them to tune, ask them to make one for the manuals too. Apparently every Honda when it rev limiter for say about 2-3 seconds, it will fuel cut and then go back to hitting the limiter again. I know other tuners for an S2K take that off. I think they call it "ignition cut throttle".

 

Is another name for this 'Rev Hang'? If so, this has been resolved back in May.

Ktuner Rev Hang/Ignition Cut Throttle Fix

 

Update 10/31/15

Car was dropped off at a shop today to have the Deltacam camshafts installed. I am looking to pick the car up sometime next week before or on Wednesday. I already know I should run the cams with a tune to get every ounce out of it. I know it may not start and even if it does start, it may not run or run poorly. We don't know until we know. Here's hoping the stock ECU is smart enough to run with it.

~~Will update ....

 

I was asked by my shop earlier what the lash spec for these cams were. I called Deltacams and John gave me this info. Here is what you'll need to know if you go this route.

Lash Spec
Intake: .006
Exhaust: .008


I'm no mechanic or cam specialist. Just providing info in case someone needs to know this in the future.

 

Thanks for being the guinea pig!

This is above what I'd do with mine since it's mainly a commuter car.

 

You are welcome! This is my commuter car too.


Open heart surgery begins.............

 

I have some very good news. The cams have been installed and the car starts up and runs without any issues. No idling issues! No problems! The shop owner Dan of First State Motorsports will be doing some test runs in the morning just to make sure everything is cool.

If everything tests out ok, I'll be having a lightweight NST pulley installed mid-morning/afternoon and will take Misfit out to the track for some 1/4 mile runs tomorrow night. The weather tomorrow will be beautiful. Should make for an interesting day. I'm hoping for the best. This is all for now.....

 

**Update 11/6/15**

I have good news and I have bad news.

The Bad News!

Only ran once tonight. The car ran significantly slower with the Deltacams. I went straight to the track from picking the Fit up at the shop. Here was the 1/4 mile time info.

Reaction: .054 (This is of no significance but posting anyways)
60': 2.529
330: 6.983
1/8: 10.568
MPH: 68.62
1000: 13.611
1/4: 16.189
MPH: 86.68

Lost 2-3mph and 5/10ths - 6/10ths off 1/4 mile time.

Everything is slower than my average times of 15.4-15.5. At least 15.6-15.7@88-89mph at 70F or so. Yeah, it's slower. Feel slower! There some low end lost. Wifey said she seems like she has to push the pedal down more to keep up with me (I was driving RAV4 out to track as a just-in-case breakdown). But this is as bad as the news go. Most people know you just can't plop aggressive cams (These are equivalent to their 272 cam grinds on older Hondas) into their cars without a tune and expect gains.

The Good News!
After installing the cams, the car runs just fine. No extra check engine lights (I have only an EGR low flow light from J's exhaust but that's for another thread). The idle is lopey but it sounds soooooo beautiful to me. Gawd....I love it! Driving around seems normal. Just with some loss of lowend. I was not expecting this. I'm ecstatic about this.


I'll be doing getting some data logs with the Android Torque Pro software and play with the Ktuner to record a run or two. I have a Ktuner 'beta' file to upload for testing anyways. In the meantime...this is all I have for now.

 

are you running an A/F gauge? I wish hondata would support this chassis already so that you can adjust the cam timing to make better use of these cams.

 

No air/fuel ratio gauge. However, I did do a couple of datalogs with the Ktuner software yesterday. Air/fuel ratios at wide open throttle is 12:5.1. It is spot on what it was when it ran stock and with every other modification that I have done.

I plan on changing cam angles tonight and do some more datalogging with the Ktuner. Only thing is, you can't fully program the cam angles to change throughout the rpm range. You can only set it to one cam angle throughout the whole rev range. It's a work in progress. I'm ONLY interested in the cam angle that supports the most horsepower between 6000-6500rpm. For now....

 

What is your timing set at during WOT? 12.5:1 just seems overly rich to me. I would think you would make better power leaning it closer to 13.1.

 

My datalogs show the timing at 15.5. It has always stayed pegged at 15.5 during WOT after putting in 92 octane. Otherwise, it would be between 11.5 - 13.5 on 87 octane.

I rather have 13.0-13.1 air/fuel ratio (Naturally aspirated) so I agree with you there but I have nothing to control air/fuel ratio with at the moment. I'm cool with it being a steady 12.5.1 though, despite any intake, exhaust or camshaft being put in. That says a lot about your stock ecu and injectors being able to handle the extra air coming into the engine.

Also, First State Motorsports was showing me the fuel injectors and the tiny holes going through them. For turbo applications, it seem like it would be easy to drill out the hole size to accommodate any extra boost that you'd be running, IF you needed more fuel. The stock ECU seems to do a darn good job as is though.

 

huh. running that rich I wonder how the stock ecu would react with just a bolt on t25 turbo setup, as long as you had a way to pull timing at least.

 

Have you logged any different air readings from the maf after installing the cam?