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2015 Honda Fit Recall - Stalling Caused by Faulty Ignition Coils

Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:21 PM
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My local Honda Dealer called me today about this safety recall. I have an appointment for Tuesday to have the ignition coil replaced. They said it would take two hours.

I bought the car Aug 12th 2014.

The car stalled a few days ago after starting the engine. I pressed the engine start button two more times and I got nothing. I got out of the car, closed the door, opened the door, got in and started the engine with no problems. I wonder if that had to do with this recall. I don't know.
 
Old Sep 12, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Considering what happened to GM after it's stalling issue, even though a different cause, Honda needs to get on the stick over this.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 12:03 PM
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My question is this: if the car stalls do you lose steering and brakes? There should always be a way to put on the brakes. If there isn't that is pretty scary and bad design.
 

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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 01:38 PM
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A quick lesson in how cars operate: in no car do you lose steering or brakes completely if the engine isn't running. That would be a scary and bad design. You may lose power boost to either or both systems, so they operate but require more force from your arms or your leg to do so.

Not sure how the Fit works in this case, but the steering is electric, not driven directly from an engine hydraulic pump. Seems likely that, having not changed the ignition state, the EPS would still work. Even if it doesn't, the steering will just require more force. This isn't much of a problem except at low speeds, high steering angles: i.e., parking. Still doable. More work.

Most cars (electrics and hybrids and some exotics the only exception I'm thinking of) derive power brake boost from engine vacuum. If the engine isn't running, there's no source of this vacuum. But the booster itself retains enough vacuum to work for one or two applications of the brakes. After that, you still have brakes but have to push harder on the pedal.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FitFrack
My question is this: if the car stalls do you lose steering and breaks?
No. "Brakes" (darn that Spell Check) and steering are POWER ASSISTED. The effort required to use either system will increase a great deal if the engine is off or stalled... But you can still use them to control the car.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stingray
Honda needs to get on the stick over this.
Some of the cars GM is recalling for their ignition switch defect were as old as MY 1997. Honda is getting on this in about one year. What more can you ask for? When the list of affected VINs is available, your car might not even be on it. Have you had stalls not related to improper MT operation?
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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As far as I can tell, there has been no recall on "the stalling problem" on the Fit or any other Honda. At this point it seems to be a media inspired problem, sometimes called a rumor.

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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KentFinn
As far as I can tell, there has been no recall on "the stalling problem" on the Fit or any other Honda.
Statement by American Honda Regarding Plug Top Ignition Coil Recall: 2015 Honda Fit
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Thanks, but nothing there as of yesterday and I just double checked ... still nothing.

Voluntary recall, no crashes, no injuries, no casualties .. according to the above URL. it looks like Honda is ahead of it.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbuff2
No. "Brakes" (darn that Spell Check) and steering are POWER ASSISTED. the car.
Well da*n! I usually catch those. But thanks to you no misspelling goes unnoticed
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick W
A quick lesson in how cars operate: in no car do you lose steering or brakes completely if the engine isn't running. That would be a scary and bad design. You may lose power boost to either or both systems, so they operate but require more force from your arms or your leg to do so.

Not sure how the Fit works in this case, but the steering is electric, not driven directly from an engine hydraulic pump. Seems likely that, having not changed the ignition state, the EPS would still work. Even if it doesn't, the steering will just require more force. This isn't much of a problem except at low speeds, high steering angles: i.e., parking. Still doable. More work.

Most cars (electrics and hybrids and some exotics the only exception I'm thinking of) derive power brake boost from engine vacuum. If the engine isn't running, there's no source of this vacuum. But the booster itself retains enough vacuum to work for one or two applications of the brakes. After that, you still have brakes but have to push harder on the pedal.
Thank you for your explanation. Good to know.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KentFinn
nothing there as of yesterday and I just double checked ... still nothing.
Not sure where the "there" is that you are looking, but it doesn't seem to be a good place to look before asserting things like:

Originally Posted by KentFinn
there has been no recall on "the stalling problem" on the Fit or any other Honda. At this point it seems to be a media inspired problem, sometimes called a rumor.

When in trouble and in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick W
Not sure where the "there" is that you are looking, but it doesn't seem to be a good place to look before asserting things like:
"There" is the official Honda recall sight. Only one recall mentioned is the A pillar air bag problem. The ignition coil notice as of 9/11/15 had not made the page. Unlike some, I'm not willing to either panic or place blame on Honda for being laggard and uncaring.
 
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 08:10 PM
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That site is probably the last to be updated--in this case somewhere close to October 6th, probably after. My point stands that the "official recall site" is not a good site from which to infer, today, that this recall is "a media inspired problem" or "rumor", as this one was readily confirmable as fact from AHM with about five seconds of Googling. Don't take that to infer I'm advocating panic or blaming Honda as uncaring or laggardly.
 
Old Sep 14, 2015 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick W
That site is probably the last to be updated--in this case somewhere close to October 6th, probably after. My point stands that the "official recall site" is not a good site from which to infer, today, that this recall is "a media inspired problem" or "rumor", as this one was readily confirmable as fact from AHM with about five seconds of Googling. Don't take that to infer I'm advocating panic or blaming Honda as uncaring or laggardly.
We just underwent a heated election and the only paper in town (a Gannett property), more than a little slanted. The mainstream media, esp. Gannet, is on my "trust AFTER you verify" list.
 
Old Sep 14, 2015 | 11:16 AM
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The recall site (Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site) is now updated with this recall.

My VIN is in the upper 86000's, and the recall doesn't appear when I do a VIN check. But when I search for general open recalls for 2015 Fits, it's now showing up.

Does anyone have a VIN that shows that this recall affects them?
 
Old Sep 14, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by robbbbb
The recall site (Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site) is now updated with this recall.

My VIN is in the upper 86000's, and the recall doesn't appear when I do a VIN check. But when I search for general open recalls for 2015 Fits, it's now showing up.

Does anyone have a VIN that shows that this recall affects them?

I punched my VIN# in and it says recall incomplete, but shows the plug recall. My VIN is in the high 14k. I was one of the first ones to grab a GK before becoming widely available.



Year: 2015Make: HondaModel: FitLast Updated: Sep 13, 2015
Number of Open Recalls: 1
PLUG TOP IGNITION COIL
NHTSA RECALL NUMBER: AWAITING#
MFR CAMPAIGN ID: JT9
CAMPAIGN DESCRIPTION: PLUG TOP IGNITION COIL
RECALL DATE: 09/02/2015
RECALL STATUS: Recall INCOMPLETE
SUMMARY:
THE WIRES INSIDE THE PLUG TOP IGNITION COIL MAY OVERHEAT AND MELT.

SAFETY RISK:
IF THE WIRES MELT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT MAY ILLUMINATE, THE ENGINE OR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM MAY MALFUNCTION, OR IN SEVERE CASES THE ENGINE MAY STALL, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

REMEDY:
HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE PLUG TOP COILS WITH NEW COILS OF A DIFFERENT DESIGN, FREE OF CHARGE. BECAUSE THE NEW VEHICLE WARRANTY ON ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES WOULD HAVE PROVIDED A FREE REPAIR FOR THE PROBLEM ADDRESSED BY THIS RECALL, WITHOUT ANY PAYMENT BY THE OWNER, REIMBURSEMENT FOR PRE-NOTIFICATION REPAIRS WILL NOT BE OFFERED. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AUTOMOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-888-234-2138. HONDA'S CAMPAIGN NUMBER FOR THIS RECALL IS JT9.
 
Old Sep 14, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by robbbbb
The recall site (Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site) is now updated with this recall.

My VIN is in the upper 86000's, and the recall doesn't appear when I do a VIN check. But when I search for general open recalls for 2015 Fits, it's now showing up.

Does anyone have a VIN that shows that this recall affects them?
Checked 10 minutes ago, found notice listed, entered VIN and it came back as not one affected by the recall. Fit assembled Dec. 2014.

Thanks for the heads up.
 
Old Sep 14, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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Mine also says recall incomplete. Mine is VIN mid 4k from April '14. So wait and see. Having no issues whatsoever at 8k miles.
 
Old Sep 14, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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So far it sounds like it's affecting the earlier units then.
 

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