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Clutch Delay Valve....nyone deleted it on GK5?
Have read posts in the past, seems to be no easy delete of the CDV on GK5s......that is one thing I can't stand, but will live with, I suppose...….at least until my engine/powertrain warranty is expired. And what is the true purpose? To make it "easier" for newbs to drive a manual? I have no idea. Just venting on a hot day :)
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reduce shock to the drive train. You can get the delete UUC CDV/Clutch Delay Valve or just drill through the valve.
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Originally Posted by Fuelish
(Post 1402322)
Have read posts in the past, seems to be no easy delete of the CDV on GK5s......that is one thing I can't stand, but will live with, I suppose...….at least until my engine/powertrain warranty is expired. And what is the true purpose? To make it "easier" for newbs to drive a manual? I have no idea. Just venting on a hot day :)
Safety … prevents accidental lurch starts while in gear Anti theft … few and fewer young punks know how to drive a manual shift (6 speed WTF) |
It's in the list of next things to do for me. I plan on using a EM2 clutch master to eliminate the extra chamber (delay valve) found on modern year manual models..
The parts I plan to use are 46920-S5A-G07 and a stainless steel clutch line. I don't think there is a valve in the slave, unlike recent years Civics do. |
Did you do it?
Originally Posted by nisco
(Post 1402344)
It's in the list of next things to do for me. I plan on using a EM2 clutch master to eliminate the extra chamber (delay valve) found on modern year manual models..
The parts I plan to use are 46920-S5A-G07 and a stainless steel clutch line. I don't think there is a valve in the slave, unlike recent years Civics do. |
Originally Posted by Z062FIT
(Post 1457381)
what were the results?
I RECOMMEND EVERY GK OWNER THIS MOD.... Since i found that my oem CMC was loosing pressure and hence the jerkiness i was experiencing |
Pics or it didn't happen
Originally Posted by elkaku
(Post 1457408)
Did mine yesterday and after a good bleed i felt like I was driving an EG or EK civic... It is s completely different car....the downside if it has to be called that way, was having to drill the firewall with a ˝ inch drill to be able to fit the EM2 CMC... Other than that....
I RECOMMEND EVERY GK OWNER THIS MOD.... Since i found that my oem CMC was loosing pressure and hence the jerkiness i was experiencing |
Originally Posted by Z062FIT
(Post 1457411)
pics or it didn't happen. !Ayúdanos!
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Drilling
Originally Posted by elkaku
(Post 1457423)
LoL!!! I did the CMC swap on a late night wrenching session... And failed on pic taking... Tell me what you wanna know and I'll try and answer..
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Originally Posted by Z062FIT
(Post 1457424)
didn't understand why you had to drill... can you use the same ss line? Wonder how it will feel with the stage 4 clutchmasters I already have in there...
What have to be drilled (i used a ˝ inch drill bit)are the two holes for the EM2 CMC to fit since those are a bit more separated than the OEM one... Other than that... Is easy as the suply line and the pressure side are identical.... The only catch is that I removed the brake booster line FROM THE BOoSTER(just pull it... It comes out easy) and the bracket that holds the clutch line to be able to get the CMC out and be able to exchange the lines The new EM2 brought a grase to be used when installing the fitting.... USE IT!! Take the "U pin" out carefully wih a flat screwdriver and then pull it out with a plier ... https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...d15bb2cccc.jpg Thats the U pin... Pull it out and trasnfer it completely... Dont unscrew it.. Its not necessary... And when installing on the new one... There is where the grease lubricant that came with the new EM2 CMC is used.... NOTE: thats not my pic.... And also the whole line DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT.... |
El Kaku ftw again!!
Thank you, now I understand (and have yet another project on my hands :).
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Originally Posted by Fuelish
(Post 1402322)
Have read posts in the past, seems to be no easy delete of the CDV on GK5s......that is one thing I can't stand, but will live with, I suppose...….at least until my engine/powertrain warranty is expired. And what is the true purpose? To make it "easier" for newbs to drive a manual? I have no idea. Just venting on a hot day :)
Honda went to the clutch delay valve because they got tired of being asked to "warranty" ruined clutches. Burnouts are so cool. You can really impress a 15 year old girl with smoke billowing off your tires. Tearing away from someone when a traffic light turns green is also awesome. It's just not good for clutches. :D |
you had to mate up the original pedal link ( upper left hand corner ) with the new master ?
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Originally Posted by elkaku
(Post 1457428)
What have to be drilled (i used a ˝ inch drill bit)are the two holes for the EM2 CMC to fit since those are a bit more separated than the OEM one... Other than that... Is easy as the suply line and the pressure side are identical....
The only catch is that I removed the brake booster line FROM THE BOoSTER(just pull it... It comes out easy) and the bracket that holds the clutch line to be able to get the CMC out and be able to exchange the lines The new EM2 brought a grase to be used when installing the fitting.... USE IT!! Take the "U pin" out carefully wih a flat screwdriver and then pull it out with a plier ... https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...d15bb2cccc.jpg Thats the U pin... Pull it out and trasnfer it completely... Dont unscrew it.. Its not necessary... And when installing on the new one... There is where the grease lubricant that came with the new EM2 CMC is used.... NOTE: thats not my pic.... And also the whole line DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT.... |
Originally Posted by bill bosco
(Post 1458451)
you had to use the original pedal link ( upper left hand corner )? with the new master ?
No i used that pic for reference on the "U" pin that has to be taken out to swap the fitting to the new CMC.... That part of the master, if you buy the EM1 (01 to 05 civic) Remember the mounting holes have to be enlarged... I used a ˝" drill and it worked perfectly |
Originally Posted by elkaku
(Post 1458454)
No i used that pic for reference on the "U" pin that has to be taken out to swap the fitting to the new CMC.... That part of the master, if you buy the EM1 (01 to 05 civic)
Remember the mounting holes have to be enlarged... I used a ˝" drill and it worked perfectly different lengths , which one gets used for the new cylinder ? |
Originally Posted by bill bosco
(Post 1458476)
i understand about the u pin ( circled in red ) , i was asking about the two pieces in the upper left hand corner of the picture . they are obviously two
different lengths , which one gets used for the new cylinder ? I used the one that came with the EM2 (01-05) civic one... Didnt had to change it or adjust it |
Originally Posted by elkaku
(Post 1458487)
I used the one that came with the EM2 (01-05) civic one... Didnt had to change it or adjust it
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Originally Posted by bill bosco
(Post 1458511)
and the pedal engagement feels like a normal clutch now ?
It feels BETTER!!! like driving an EG or EK civics or an 93-2000 integra.... Like a normal clutch system.... |
Nioce. We want this car driving like an EK and Integra more fun. Screw you cluth delay valve.
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