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Old 10-22-2018, 03:44 PM
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* * * AFTER 10mm change * * *


NEW Drivers side:
fender to ground = 23 1/8 (3/8 in change)
fender to wheel cap = 12 3/4 (1/8 in change) = bad measurements on my behalf? (everything else is 3/8)





NEW Passenger side:
fender to ground = 23 3/8 (3/8 in change)
fender to wheel cap = 12 7/8 (3/8 in change)





per tein manual, the following is recommended/acceptable:

-fender to center of wheel = 13 inch
-max drop = -1.8 inch

after adjustments, drivers side fender to center of wheel is 1/4 under 13 inch, and passenger side is 1/8 under. does anyone know, if there is such a thing as an acceptable amount to safely stray without ruining things?

base drop was -1.4, I lowered the fronts by 0.375 inch (3/8 in), so I am still within the limits of that -1.8 inch recommend (-1.775 inch as it sits)
 
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What do you mean safely stray? Lower further than the recommended 1.8"?
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:10 PM
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SO ... I went on yet another road trip to Vegas. I wont do the usual mpg talk, instead I'll share pics from my fav part of the trip, Nelson Ghost Town!

Actually.... one brief thing to discuss .... new Tein Street Advance Z coilovers = COMFORTABLE. it makes a 5 hr road trip just that much more enjoyable. Those of you who speak of bad back pain, and all things discomfort..... I'll say it again.... these coilovers are awesome. I am a believer in twin tube design moving forward! And I'm happy to report back that lowering the car 3/8 inch did not affect its characteristics








MATER .... IRL!





If you guys ever want to try something out of the ordinary .... Nelson Ghost Town .... this is a must see!




 
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
What do you mean safely stray? Lower further than the recommended 1.8"?
correct .... in the event that someone were to ignore the recommend, and go like 2 inch or 2.5 inch .... is there such a thing as a "cushion" or "grace" where going a little out of bounds is "okay"
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:18 PM
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I know this isnt car related ... but its too cool:


what does the creepy barn contain?


creepy things!


the #1 creepy thing of the day ...


someone actually lives here ....











and to for ambiance, just LISTEN to the sounds of this one



LISTEN ---> YOUTUBE LINK
CLICK ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luPo...ature=youtu.be
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by evilchargerfan
correct .... in the event that someone were to ignore the recommend, and go like 2 inch or 2.5 inch .... is there such a thing as a "cushion" or "grace" where going a little out of bounds is "okay"
I mean my coilovers on the S2000 are recommended at stock height to 2.5" lower than stock, I'm at about 3" lower than stock.

It may shorten the life of the damper a bit, but yeah, it generally should be fine.
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:24 PM
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Cool pictures!! I hope to make it out to California one day!!

Originally Posted by evilchargerfan
correct .... in the event that someone were to ignore the recommend, and go like 2 inch or 2.5 inch .... is there such a thing as a "cushion" or "grace" where going a little out of bounds is "okay"
Slam that shiz lol!!! I went lower then recommended and it rides the same IMO. I have over 40k on mine and still doing great. I want to say my ground to fender height is about 22" but I would have to double check (not sure how similar it would be between the chassis).
 
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by evilchargerfan
SO ... I went on yet another road trip to Vegas. I wont do the usual mpg talk, instead I'll share pics from my fav part of the trip, Nelson Ghost Town!

MATER .... IRL!





If you guys ever want to try something out of the ordinary .... Nelson Ghost Town .... this is a must see!
This is a cool find!
 
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:34 PM
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Haven't been on here for a few weeks, come back, and I see this so called poor mans budget Fit has more going on than most Fits here haha. Looks great man! Especially love the awesome photo-shoot, SUPER cool location too. Anyway, diffuser looks fantastic - Fit looks top-notch
 

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Old 10-24-2018, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
I mean my coilovers on the S2000 are recommended at stock height to 2.5" lower than stock, I'm at about 3" lower than stock.

It may shorten the life of the damper a bit, but yeah, it generally should be fine.
Originally Posted by GolNat
Slam that shiz lol!!! I went lower then recommended and it rides the same IMO. I have over 40k on mine and still doing great. I want to say my ground to fender height is about 22" but I would have to double check (not sure how similar it would be between the chassis).
I guess it wouldnt hurt to TRY it out and see how she rides right?

Give me another week or 2 to enjoy things as is, before I attempt another 10mm reduction at the collars and lower it another 0.25 to 0.50 inch

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This is a cool find!
Indeed, it was a darn neat place! Had a rad Post Apocalyptic vibe to it. Makes ya wonder, what life was like living out there ... Peaceful? Hectic? Similar to the days of Cowboys Vs Indians? I wish I had a delorean time machine, so I could go back and find out!

Originally Posted by [LegenD]
Haven't been on here for a few weeks, come back, and I see this so called poor mans budget Fit has more going on than most Fits here haha. Looks great man! Especially love the awesome photo-shoot, SUPER cool location too.
TY for the kind words! On fb and ig, I nick named my car the "pos mobile". All my friends make fun of me for driving a crap/slow honda, lol. I'm in love with that place too! On my next visit, I'm gonna ask the workers for permission .... if I could kindly move my car around the lot and snap more pics from around town

PM'd about the diffusers

 
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:23 AM
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I have been playing with the tein street basis z coilovers quite a bit lately. not sure how much it relates to the gk, but since both mine and your recommended setting is 13'' ill assume they are similar. on my ge i think the lowest comfortable height is 12.5'' from center of hub. max drop puts the distance from center of hub to top of fender at 12''. at max drop i didnt hear any weird noises, but i did realize (first from feel, then i measured) the front is resting on the bump stops. my rears have about 1'' travel before hitting bump stop, when fully lowered. normal roads and cracks are fine, but the highway seams, that are like baby 1-2'' speedbumps, i could tell were jamming the strut. I dont know how durable the teins are when it comes to this kind of thing....but i know this particular thrusting blew out my stock struts with eibach red springs on my scion xa. but even if the teins can take the blows, you also have to consider the impact on the rest of the (mostly front) suspension/wheels.

at 12.5'' there is a smidge more body roll, but at least there is some sort of bump absorption. there is still the slight jamming of those highway speedbump seam things, but they are half as harsh. realistically, i think the 13'' is best for comfort and ensuring strut/shock longevity, but I hate wheel gap.

it seems logical, but the further you go from the recommended 13'' to the max drop of 12''....the more uncomfortable the ride gets. something else i noticed, especially in the front, is the first 3ish turns dont even raise the car and just begin to add preload. im at 6 turns up in front, and 7 turns up in back...which puts all 4 corners at 12.5''.

hope theres some sort of useful info in all this...lol
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:30 PM
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that .... is exactly what I needed to hear Eulogy! thank you for that detailed post

I'm kicking around the idea of doing down 1/4 or 1/2 inch lower as I too hate the wheel gap. I have reservations about going to max low, as I feel at that point it will affect preload in a detrimental way to ride quality, performance, and possibly damper longevity (which is huge, as I believe these are non-rebuildable)

I'll ride on it as is for another week, and then try out the other height settings (for kicks & giggles). I predict, you're on the money with your review and I'll prob end up at 12.5" or so like you did. I would love to "have it all", where I can go as low as I felt like, and fit in with the cool kids AND maintain ride quality and performance .... but thats not gonna happen =)
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:50 PM
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What size tires are you running? It seems crazy that you've lowered the car a reasonable amount & it still has that much wheel gap?
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:17 PM
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They are, skinnier than most:

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...2-h457/p/19440
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Ventus V2 Concept 2 H457195 /50 R15 82H SL BSW
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:20 PM
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That's really, really short for a GK.

1.3" shorter than OEM tire, your wheel gap issues would be solved with something like a 205/55/15.
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by evilchargerfan
I'm kicking around the idea of doing down 1/4 or 1/2 inch lower as I too hate the wheel gap. I have reservations about going to max low, as I feel at that point it will affect preload in a detrimental way to ride quality, performance, and possibly damper longevity
Oh wait the kit you have is not fully threaded? So you adjust height by shortening the spring and damper stroke. Then yes I would not go to much lower then recommended as it will put the damper in an area it was not designed to work in. The kit I have is fully sleeved so no matter the height I am at the spring and damper stroke stay the same which is why I feel no change in ride comfort just fender rubbing really.
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:46 PM
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It really is. I gave it a try in the name of saving weight (16lbs per tire) and hopes of increasing mpg. when these tires are shot, I'm 99% sure I'm gonna go up to 205s next go around, and hope to find something in the 18 lbs range


Golnat, correct. poor mans coilovers, come with poor man features.... in this case, it is indeed Thread-Type =\

If I werent so poor, I would have went with the Flex Z's instead of the Street Advance Z:

street advance z
https://www.tein.com/products/street..._z.html#spec01



flex z
https://www.tein.com/products/flex_z.html
 
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Golnat, looks like you own flex z .... I'm jealous


 
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Old 10-29-2018, 12:11 PM
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did Vegas (again) this weekend. for kicks & giggles, installed roof vortex generators. from what I read somewhere (I think it was the ecomodders forum), they reduce drag. we'll see over the next fuelly receipts if theres any noticeable diff .... my guess is, prob not

some pics in the mean time, of the car parked at my favorite Japanese Izakaya in all of Las Vegas, along with some food porn





 

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Funny, I thought about those vortex generators too. I would line them up with my shark fin antenna, maybe in a V-pattern, just for fun.
 


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