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TOOL Jan 2, 2008 12:23 AM

Anybody track their Fit AT's?
 
Just wondering if anyone has AutoX'ed or Track'ed their AT?
I know MT is alot better for racing, just wondering if anyone has done it and how they did.

Tyler

xtreme Jan 6, 2008 11:10 AM

i did once but i blew the radiator, never done it since. dont want to either AT is not for track use. it can be used but be warned you might damage your car.

gimp Jan 7, 2008 09:08 AM

We've been autocrossing Kate's AT Fit without a problem. As autos go, the Fit has one of the best paddle shift systems out there. It just holds at the limiter and doesn't shift for you. Take a hint GM and Chrysler.

kennef Jan 7, 2008 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 216444)
i did once but i blew the radiator, never done it since. dont want to either AT is not for track use. it can be used but be warned you might damage your car.

could you clarify? did you blow the radiator that cools the motor or the transmission oil cooler? i ask because your response does not appear to apply to the automatic tranny but more to your motor since others have tracked their mt fits without cooling problems.

TOOL Jan 8, 2008 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by gimp (Post 217019)
We've been autocrossing Kate's AT Fit without a problem. As autos go, the Fit has one of the best paddle shift systems out there. It just holds at the limiter and doesn't shift for you. Take a hint GM and Chrysler.

Yeah S mode is great. Thats good the AT Fit can at least AutoX, someday i want to do that.

Tyler

MINI-Fit Jan 13, 2008 05:00 PM

There is no reason you cannot use the AT for autocrossing.

The courses are designed for up to highway speeds and mostly in the 50 mph range or less. Since the Fit doesn't have that much power, odds are the course will not allow the Fit to get much higher than 50 even if other cars can.

This means most of the time you will be able to make good use of 1st through 3rd gears. Just be ready to down and up shift when the right time comes. Paddle shifters should be very helpful, you just have to learn how to do it and be smooth.

Having good tires would be a big plus as well. The stock All Season tires aren't the best.

You can try for Max Performance Summer tires or even
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R in 195/50-15 (Extreme Performance Summer tires).

Otherwise if you can dedicate a set of wheels for autocrossing then-
Kumho V710 205/50-15 R compound tires (not for street use).

mrFroge Jan 29, 2008 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by gimp (Post 217019)
We've been auto crossing Kate's AT Fit without a problem. As autos go, the Fit has one of the best paddle shift systems out there. It just holds at the limiter and doesn't shift for you. Take a hint GM and Chrysler.

I second that! I run the AT Paddles in my Fit at autox and love it.. It took some getting use to but they are great.

Wouldn't run track with it as the "top end" in the auto is lower than the manuel.

xtreme Jan 30, 2008 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by kennef (Post 217367)
could you clarify? did you blow the radiator that cools the motor or the transmission oil cooler? i ask because your response does not appear to apply to the automatic tranny but more to your motor since others have tracked their mt fits without cooling problems.

i blew the radiator that is used to cool the liquid cooling fluid....... if it was the oil cooler i would have said oil cooler ;)

mahout Mar 7, 2008 10:06 AM

Of course. My Fit Sport auto is great fun if not fast. Couldn't break 100 on either straight at VIR (96-97) but handling is very good. If you want to see what the course is like, try "you Tubes" video "hyundai sundae at VIR".
The Fit is nowhere that quick but the uphill esses and downhill roller coaster are a ball. As you would expect all running is done in sport manual gears 2, 3. and 4. mostly 3.

Then I go back to my CRX SiR ...
Thats what we need: a Fit with Fangs !

Wuze Apr 9, 2008 06:24 PM

I don't know anything about manuals, but with the paddle shifters for an automatic, in S-mode doesn't it run like a manual without the clutch? I've never driven manual and considered it this time, but the paddle shifters seem really fun and a good step towards driving manual.

Does the manual still offer more control compared to using the paddle shifters?

solbrothers Apr 9, 2008 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wuze (Post 278871)
Does the manual still offer more control compared to using the paddle shifters?

yes it does. the paddle shifters on the fit are NOT like those on supercars. they are just there to sell cars. which works lol. you can do the same thing with a regular automatic. heck, if i wanted, i could the same thing with our old 1985 s10 truck. and it's a freakin column mounted automatic shifter. i used to mess with my del sol before i swapped it. i'd go from 1 to 2 to d3 to d4.

the paddle shifters are basically just a gimmick

TOOL Apr 9, 2008 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 278909)
yes it does. the paddle shifters on the fit are NOT like those on supercars. they are just there to sell cars. which works lol. you can do the same thing with a regular automatic. heck, if i wanted, i could the same thing with our old 1985 s10 truck. and it's a freakin column mounted automatic shifter. i used to mess with my del sol before i swapped it. i'd go from 1 to 2 to d3 to d4.

the paddle shifters are basically just a gimmick

I definetly beg to differ. Seriously, your incorrect. i read once somewhere how it works on the Fit, ill find the link. Its more complex then you think.
Your just an AT hater, always hatin' on it. No one listen to this guys lol!:p
Solbro's im just playin'.

Tyler

solbrothers Apr 9, 2008 09:59 PM

lol tyler. but really, the fit AT is just that. an AT.

you know i gots love for the fit community! LOL

J_L Apr 9, 2008 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 278909)
yes it does. the paddle shifters on the fit are NOT like those on supercars. they are just there to sell cars. which works lol. you can do the same thing with a regular automatic. heck, if i wanted, i could the same thing with our old 1985 s10 truck. and it's a freakin column mounted automatic shifter. i used to mess with my del sol before i swapped it. i'd go from 1 to 2 to d3 to d4.

the paddle shifters are basically just a gimmick

Tell us how you really feel:rotfl:

solbrothers Apr 9, 2008 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by J_L (Post 279102)
Tell us how you really feel:rotfl:

i no scare

GAFIT Apr 19, 2008 04:07 PM

I have nothing against Auto's, but sol is right...the AT in the Fit is a standard auto with a torque converter. The paddles are only a means of selecting a gear and having it stay there. The F1 style are manuals with computer controlled clutches that don't take away any extra power, match rpm's for up and down shifts, and shift faster than a standard auto or a human with a manual.

That being said, I would think the AT Fit would work great for aut0-x. Could probably run the whole course in second and use the converter to help keep rpm up in low speed turns.

MINI-Fit Apr 19, 2008 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by GAFIT (Post 287679)
That being said, I would think the AT Fit would work great for aut0-x. Could probably run the whole course in second and use the converter to help keep rpm up in low speed turns.

Unless you have an uncompetitive region, autocrossing in an AT Fit would be difficult even with the best of tires and suspension upgrades.

I have driven a 2008 Fit Sport AT with stock wheels and tires, stock sized wheels and R compound 205/50-15 and 15x7 light weight wheels and Bridgestone RE-01R 195/50-15 tires for test and tune and actual autocross event in my region.

While handling with better than stock tires and wheels is acceptable, the automatic with paddles shifters are not up to the task. Track might be different since turns would not be so tight. Your actual autocross course will vary from region to region.

Often the steering wheel was turned upside down when the gears needed to be downshifted or upshifted. With the wheel upside down the paddles are difficult to locate. Also if going too fast the AT would not downshift to 1st which is needed on a tight turn. Running it Sport mode was too slow. Running in 1st only was hitting the rev limiter. Running in second was too slow coming out of sharp turns. In a nutshell if you want the highest performance you'll need the manual transmission.

I had about 30+ runs to try different things out and was disappointed to still be trailing a stock Toyota Corolla on good street tires by a full second on a 30 second course. Moreover the Corolla was 47th out of 102 drivers, while my Fit was 67th on raw time (35.8 sec).

In my other car at autocross I usually shoot for top 10 on the day and have done as well as 2nd overall.

Fitcapo May 19, 2008 11:02 PM

I would love to try out autocross. At this point I don't think I would go sport mode because I haven't used it enough to use it right ( i always forget to downshift ) but would love to try auto x.

mahout May 26, 2008 07:02 PM

Have tracked my Fit Sport AT several times at VIR (see 'Hyundai Sundae at VIR' on you tube for the track, not with the Fit) and had no trouble whatsoever. Virtually all in 2nd and 3rd gear in sports, for a short time near the end of the straights into 4th. Top speed reached 96-97 mph. Gears are worth 30-60-90-140 and 180 by gearing so you can see why 4th is only briefly needed.
The AT Fit is too slow to be really useful except for driver practice, Mine, with Monroe AirLifts rear shocks, antisway bar disconnected, and 205/40x17 tires/wheels with 42 mm offset, handles beutifully but I can take time to eat lunch on the straights. Lap time for the 3.27 mi course runs just under 3 minutes.
Unless the Fit is classed against Minis and some civics and golfs it may do well at A/Xing.

hoey888 Jun 4, 2008 11:55 PM

Currently driving a thail built honda fit/jazz with the 7 speed tiptronic CVT. car is completely stock except for a spoon catback muffler (b pipe and axle back) and using 16" Buddy Club P1 Challenge rims on Toyo Proxie 4 tyres. ( note: stock intake)

Honestly I have to say with lower profile and wider tyres the car is heaps better, handling wise. theres more stability and greater cornering speed compared to the stock 14" yokohama aspec tyres that came with the car.

didn't really have problems with brake fade while on the track (Winton Raceway, Benella Victoria Australia) however it was noticeable the next day while driving the car. Seems to have a very spongy feel the next day.

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would recommend any jazz/fit owner to take theirs to the track auto/manual.


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