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Chikubi Nov 19, 2006 11:36 PM

New J's Racing chamber intake
 
Ran across this on the J's Racing HP while looking for some parts info. It just went on sale this month, and looks to be a good compromise for those who want a chamber intake with the benefits of a CAI. No idea if it'll fit a USDM Fit or not, but from the placement of the IAT sensor, I'd say not w/o some minor modification first. Price is 73,500 yen ($625) for the carbon/FRP model, and 57,750 yen ($490) for the FRP only model. Gains show 4.4 ps (4.34 hp)@5920rpm/3.6 ft/lbs@4886rpm.

http://www.jsracing.co.jp/js3/gal/Wr...2F061021%2Ejpg
http://www.jsracing.co.jp/js3/gal/Wr...C%82%B12%2Ejpg
http://www.jsracing.co.jp/js3/gal/Wr...1021%2D3%2Ejpg

ChrisG Nov 19, 2006 11:38 PM

Can Ben from AJ shed some light on this intake???

Chikubi Nov 20, 2006 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisG
Can Ben from AJ shed some light on this intake???

Maybe. Might want to ask in the AJR section in the Vendors area. I did a quick check on Minkara and there's 3 reviews up already, one dated 11/8, so it just hit the market. All seem to say there's a noticeable increase in torque, with no loss at low speeds. There's one particularly long detailed review, but I'm tired and don't feel like working on it tonight -- maybe over the next few days I'll give it a shot. All give it 5 stars, which is the best on Minkara. Looks interesting though, if you've got the cash.

sillypuddy Nov 20, 2006 06:59 AM

this would be sooo sweet

-joe

gettinafit Nov 20, 2006 10:16 AM

I don't think the cut of the fenders are the same, they would have to design one on a USDM. Tell T1R to make one for the USDM like this, they already have a chamber intake for the Fit.

aziatiklover Nov 20, 2006 11:59 AM

not bad at all.....

eNAyeM Nov 20, 2006 12:55 PM

if we took off the drivers side front fender, is there room to run a CAI hose?? If so, we could almost do this ourselves with the T1R intake.

dacalac Nov 20, 2006 01:07 PM

$625 or $425 for a gain of only "4.4 ps (4.34 hp)@5920rpm/3.6 ft/lbs@4886rpm."???

No thank you.

Chikubi Nov 20, 2006 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by gettinafit
I don't think the cut of the fenders are the same, they would have to design one on a USDM. Tell T1R to make one for the USDM like this, they already have a chamber intake for the Fit.

I don't think it matters though. The filter is connected via a rubber pipe from a simple mount in the fender, kinda like the stock airbox, so there's room for adjustment I'd say. Here's a DIY from one of the reviews I found, if you glance through the pics you'll see what I mean.

http://www.geocities.jp/hyde_black_yellow/repo_1.html

805FitSport Nov 20, 2006 01:58 PM

LOL, looks like the JDM tunners!!! finally caught on to what i have been saying about short ram intakes, very nice peice indeed, but for 600 bucks i think ill stick with my tried and true Fujita.

805FitSport Nov 20, 2006 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by dacalac
$625 or $425 for a gain of only "4.4 ps (4.34 hp)@5920rpm/3.6 ft/lbs@4886rpm."???

No thank you.

while the 4.3 hp may not seem big, it is a big difference once you start driving that thing and moving some air, while a short ram will just lose power as soon as engine bay temps reach operating temps...

spider2k Nov 20, 2006 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by dacalac
$625 or $425 for a gain of only "4.4 ps (4.34 hp)@5920rpm/3.6 ft/lbs@4886rpm."???

No thank you.

rofl.try buying s2k parts ;)

AJ PwR Jr. Nov 20, 2006 04:47 PM

First of all, the reason I didn't make a post on the J's Racing intake is because I don't know if they fot to USDM Fit yet. J's Racing is suppose to fit it to our USDM Fit this week and once that is done, I will post up the information.


Thanks
Ben

dacalac Nov 20, 2006 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by 805FitSport
while the 4.3 hp may not seem big, it is a big difference once you start driving that thing and moving some air, while a short ram will just lose power as soon as engine bay temps reach operating temps...

But for that amount or even less you can spend it on a Fujita/AEM/Aspec product and see better results.

Chikubi Nov 21, 2006 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by dacalac
But for that amount or even less you can spend it on a Fujita/AEM/Aspec product and see better results.

You may get somewhat more horsepower, but not the driveability, which is what chambers are all about. Having that big volume of air sitting, ready to be used instantly, has a big impact on throttle response -- especially in situations where there's a lot of on/off throttle usage (racing, autox, etc.). For example, I know that in a straight line, my Power Box doesn't feel too much different than stock, but when I hit a good winding road the car really feels alive and the engine power is right there when you need it in an instant. That's what you're paying for.

Chikubi Nov 21, 2006 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by eNAyeM
if we took off the drivers side front fender, is there room to run a CAI hose?? If so, we could almost do this ourselves with the T1R intake.

You don't need to take the fender off, just the front bumper cover. And, yeah, I think you could rig the T1R to do it yourself, assuming you could make an adapter to mate the T1R to the hose due to the difference in diameter. Whether you'd lose any power or not is a gamble though, 'cause it might change the tuning of the chamber for the worse, but maybe not. Just need to try it.

805FitSport Nov 21, 2006 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by dacalac
But for that amount or even less you can spend it on a Fujita/AEM/Aspec product and see better results.

exactly!!!

805FitSport Nov 21, 2006 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Chikubi
You may get somewhat more horsepower, but not the driveability, which is what chambers are all about. Having that big volume of air sitting, ready to be used instantly, has a big impact on throttle response -- especially in situations where there's a lot of on/off throttle usage (racing, autox, etc.). For example, I know that in a straight line, my Power Box doesn't feel too much different than stock, but when I hit a good winding road the car really feels alive and the engine power is right there when you need it in an instant. That's what you're paying for.

todays common CAI from a reputable company will give the same effect of a camber intake due to the length of the entire pipe, maybe even more volume of air. i can see were a regular short ram wouldn't have the same effect as a chamber intake.

oh and BTW, my cars driveabillity is perfect, better than stock even with alot more power up top. id like to dyno one car with several intakes out on the market to settle this discussion, its been done on other cars like the RSX's and other cars before and the JDM airbox/chamber/induction/foam whatever always fail.

805FitSport Nov 21, 2006 03:50 PM

just looking at the J's filter you can tell you are going to get air turbulance, all open element filters with concave filter area in the center of the filter will cause air turbulance, but maybe that camber smoothen's it out or something.

805FitSport Nov 21, 2006 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by AJ PwR Jr.
First of all, the reason I didn't make a post on the J's Racing intake is because I don't know if they fot to USDM Fit yet. J's Racing is suppose to fit it to our USDM Fit this week and once that is done, I will post up the information.


Thanks
Ben

test fitting it on your car would be pointless because you have the JDM front end (which is badass) but i saw in one of the pics for the yellow car of the install on it. it screws on to a head light balliast for the HID's (which we don't have). i think it will fit our cars but it will require a different mount for the filter.


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