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Fit4Spl 06-08-2011 02:48 PM

So you want bass with little space?
 
I have heard this time and time again on this forum. Well my wife just got a new car, well its not brand new or a fit but she also didn't want to lose a ton of space in her hatch area. So I came up with this, it's a small ported box, measuring 20"x10"x8". Made from 1/2" MDF, tuned at 40Hz and the box weighs around 10lbs maybe a bit less. The woofer will be a single 8" sub, which weighs around 2lbs.

So here are some pictures of this raw, I am going to put a coat of paint on it to match the car once the sub arrives tomorrow.

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/001.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/002.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/003.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/004.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/005.jpg


So for the application this will be pretty successful taking up minimal space, not weighing a ton and still delivering good bass response.

BTW, if anyone wants one of these built, PM me for cost.

beangrower 06-08-2011 05:28 PM

curious to know what kind of sub u plan on putting in there?

Fit4Spl 06-08-2011 05:36 PM

It's a single 8", a generic from ebay that I got cheap. Although it could take pretty much any 8" sub as long as it doesn't have a huge motor since the box is only 8" deep total.

jdmjunkie561 06-08-2011 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Fit4Spl (Post 1001806)
I have heard this time and time again on this forum. Well my wife just got a new car, well its not brand new or a fit but she also didn't want to lose a ton of space in her hatch area. So I came up with this, it's a small ported box, measuring 20"x10"x8". Made from 1/2" MDF, tuned at 40Hz and the box weighs around 10lbs maybe a bit less. The woofer will be a single 8" sub, which weighs around 2lbs.

So here are some pictures of this raw, I am going to put a coat of paint on it to match the car once the sub arrives tomorrow.

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/001.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/002.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/003.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/004.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/005.jpg


So for the application this will be pretty successful taking up minimal space, not weighing a ton and still delivering good bass response.

BTW, if anyone wants one of these built, PM me for cost.

Dude whats up!!!! I want this !!!!!!! What prices we talking??!!!!? Do I get it discounted ? Lmao but seriously I am really interested in u building it for me !!!

jdmjunkie561 06-08-2011 05:43 PM

And how hard u think an 8 will hit ?

fitisno 06-08-2011 06:30 PM

this fits where in the car? id love something under the back seat

Fit4Spl 06-08-2011 06:53 PM

Well I don't know if it will fit under the back seat, possible but not sure. Junkie PM me we can talk, it's not gonna be earth shattering bass, but it will provide the lower end fill that all cars lack.

soulfly 06-08-2011 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Fit4Spl (Post 1001861)
It's a single 8", a generic from ebay that I got cheap. Although it could take pretty much any 8" sub as long as it doesn't have a huge motor since the box is only 8" deep total.

i assume the internal volume and tuning are matched to the sub specs? i mean you can't really just build the same box for others and have them put whatever sub they want in it of course.
Is that a BP box, ported or a T-line??

Fit4Spl 06-09-2011 12:00 AM

Actually with an L port design the box can be used for most subs out there, when you are trying to squeeze decibels or peak frequencies then I would build the box around the sub. To answer your last question, it's a simple L shape ported enclosure, not a bandpass or T line.

Fit4Spl 06-09-2011 04:59 PM

As promised here are the final pictures of the enclosure.

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/006.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/007.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/008.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/small8/009.jpg

jdmjunkie561 06-09-2011 05:46 PM

U just painted it ? I like it alot ! Next best thing compared to a stealth box!!! How does it sound?

Fit4Spl 06-09-2011 05:56 PM

Not sure on sound yet, i will do some sound testing tomorrow or saturday. Paint was used instead of carpet as it was on hand and the paint was matched to the color of the car per her request.

jdmjunkie561 06-09-2011 05:58 PM

Oh u built it for someone ? Cool

Fit4Spl 06-09-2011 06:00 PM

Yeah my wife lol!

jdmjunkie561 06-09-2011 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Fit4Spl (Post 1002188)
Yeah my wife lol!

Nice ! She got a fit too?

soulfly 06-09-2011 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Fit4Spl (Post 1001999)
Actually with an L port design the box can be used for most subs out there,

L port or round port..that actually has nothing to do with it. Port design is about velocity and tuning. Generally for preventing turbulence and port compression is to design for a max velocity of 5% of the speed of sound, or about 17 meters per second (~55 feet/sec).

provided its large enough, you can use a range of sub specs for it, although i'd suggest for 40hz you use a subsonic filter of close to 38 hz at least so the sub wont' unload. You don't want too large or too small for any particular sub.

regardless, the box is of #1 importance, not the sub.

The biggest disadvantages of vented enclosures are the increased complexity of their design, poor performance when designed improperly, and unloading of the speaker at frequencies below the tuning frequency. However, note that most speaker manufacturers provide specifications, construction plans, and tuning charts that allow you to construct a vented system rather easily.

Fit4Spl 06-09-2011 09:54 PM

This is a Low wattage economy application, where even below tuning the sub will not be getting enough power to unload enough to start self destructing. As for the manufacturer recommended enclosures those are generic in a sense of they are a general use application in mind. Only certain manufacturers provide a variety of enclosure types (sq/spl/sqspl) and even then that is a in lab measurement, everything in car is different due to many factors.

We could go back and forth on things you know Vs what I know and still not be on topic here. This box was designed for exactly it's own purpose and that is small, economic and yet still deliver some bass.

Fit4Spl 06-20-2011 05:41 PM

So the economy build wasn't enough bass for the wife, I kinda had a feeling it wouldn't be. Well I worked a trade got a very nice Sundown SA8 for her and also got a MTX 400watt mono block amp. And today I built this box for it, measurements are 18"Wx14"Hx14"D. So again a pretty small enclosure but still netting around 1cuft after 45 braces and sub displacement, tuning is 37Hz.

http://www.bortzmedia.com/sa8.jpg

http://www.bortzmedia.com/sa82.jpg

britdevine 06-20-2011 11:51 PM

The SA 8's are awesome!!! One 8 on 400 there will rock the car

Fit4Spl 06-21-2011 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by britdevine (Post 1005507)
The SA 8's are awesome!!! One 8 on 400 there will rock the car

Oh I know, I have a single SA12 in my fit on 1400watts ported and tuned at 32Hz :D


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