^ I have little idea... you can contact scarebird to help you sort through it all...

 

I have a gd1....rhd....from japan maybe.....will this conversion work for me?

 

best way to tell would be to remove your rear brake parts and compare what you have to the pictures in this thread...

 

RSX rotors/calipers to mesh up with my 5 lug. Ebrake cable still needs to go on. 4 lug guys can do this upgrade also just use the early ep3 4 lug rotors... It's a super common upgrade for integras, so it made me want to try it to get an off the shelf rear brake parts with the 5 lug.

 

Neat conversion. I wish I could also do this someday

 

As an update, my rear brake pads are toast (went with STSP's front and rear).

I don't know if it is because the rears are doing more work than the fronts or that the rears aren't doing enough to keep these pads warm thus accelerating their wear (I'm leaning towards the later).

I'll be getting a truly dd pad, centric premium ceramics, for the rear along with some new centric premium rotors... i'm going to update the op to reflect this.

 

Interesting report. I'll have to monitor mine during wheel swaps and tire rotations.

Just to be clear for followers, what pads are you running and what rear caliper? Also, are you having any abnormalities with how the pad wears as well?

I'm running Carbotech AX6 up front and Hawk HP Plus in the rear with EP3 9CLP14S calipers. So far I have yet to see any abnormal pad wear with my setup after 2 autocross days and playing around occausionally.

 

currently running centric cryo rotors in front, centric basic rotors in rear, w/ stoptech street perf pads all around... '97 integra rear calipers (Non-R)

i dd nearly all the time in michigan.

i will continue to run the cryo/stsp combo in front, but will be doing centric premium rotors and centric premium ceramics in the rear


so you're running a larger pad, larger diameter, with a more rear biased compound setup BUT using the car primarily for autox/racing duties... which i could see would keep the pads warmed up to proper operating temps...

 

I see... Are you running a dust shield with your conversion as well?

I currently am not and kind of wish I did. Believe it or not, I have issues with keeping my rear brakes warm enough to stay at operating temp on course; even after multiple HARD braking applications with short cool down periods between brake zones, I get just enough heat generated that ABS vaguely thinks about engaging.

As far as my rotor configuration, I'm running Centric/Stop Tech slotted cryo rotors and cheapie "O'Really's?" 2002/2003 EP3 blank rear rotors (will switch to Centric blanks later). Brake balance believe it or not is pretty neutral, this Hawk HP Plus (out of the MANY other versions) is very similar character wise to the AX6. Good initial bite BUT needs a little heat in them to stay happy. Will swap those for AX6 or XP8s later as well.

 

i didn't keep the heat shields... didn't think i'd need them either... not sure how much they'd help in this case, but it's a thought.

ok - i was seeing the hp+ listed closer to the xp10s than not...


i really liked my balance fwiw (granted never locked them up to see which would lock up first) and had braking for days with the pads i had (more than i really need but it's fun to have)

 

That's understandable. I was considering installing some heat shields to see if that would help keep the Hawks at temp but scarcely have free time anymore (hence my lack of time on the forum the last few months).

From what I gathered when comparing the HP Plus to the AX6, the two pads are very similar characteristics. Both have identical high initial bite and similar optimal heat ranges... BUT the AX6 has a better COLD bite (better bite at lower temps) from what I'm understanding.

 

got you... which probably means the hp+ will take higher heat better, even if the two have similar bite and friction coefficients...

 

Hello,
Did any of you ever use EBC Yellow and EBC Green?
I am currently using EBC Green for my rear brake, but would like to try EBC Yellow next time. Thanks

 

i know ebc has a following - i've never really liked them personally...

imho, there are better compounds out there.

 

Hi Apexanimal,
I never tried other pads beside EBC for this car,
May I know why you don't like EBC? (compare to other pads that you like)?
Thanks

 

they're fairly expensive for what they are, BUT are a great dd/driving around pad...

imho, carbotech, stoptech, ferodo, porterfield, and some of the hawk products (if you can get around the corrosive dust) are far more tested, with a wider range of operating temps, and more across the board reliable (in terms of build quality)...

you'll be fine using them (really), but in most of the small, lightweight racing series they are in a very small minority...

for a dd with a base level of spunk i'd much prefer ax6, stsp, 2000/2500, rs4's...

 

ITR Rear Calipers wont bolt up the bracket? I'm running ITR brakes up front and I plan on doing rear disc soon, and I was curious to see if the ITR Calipers would work.

 

i don't know is the best i can do.

scarebird specified non-type r calipers, and i don't know what the difference is. they are very responsive to emails, so you can try to see what it would take...

 

I'm casting the "I don't know/unsure" vote as well. Ask Scarebird as well or perhaps be a pioneer like us and experiment with it?

When I did a little bit of digging around with my conversion (I'm running the slightly larger EP3 SI rear discs), I learned that EP3 SI rotors are identical in size to the DC2R (10.2 inch rotors)... just different parking brake cable design for both the cable end AND the caliper (you WILL have to match the styles TO the caliper used).

Running EP3 may be an alternative that will allows you to achieve the same goal, just different parts. Unless of course you want to run LEGIT ITR spec brakes of course.

Here's a conversion chart listing various rear disc combinations using Honda/Acura specific parts.

 

Thanks for the quick response!! Hootie, I'll be PM'ing you for more info on the EP3 conversion if you don't mind.