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B16 into GE8 Kit

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Old 11-05-2013, 11:16 PM
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B16 into GE8 Kit

We've done it in a track car and it fit with room to spare. Availability, loads of power, easy upgrades, and huge aftermarket.
Who is interested?
What kind of parts would you like included?
Just mounts?
Mounts, shifter with linkage etc?

Give us feedback.
 
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:21 PM
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Pics and vids would be cool. I doubt anyone here would go B series in a fit. K series for sure.
 
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:32 PM
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Why a B series in to a fit ???
 
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:54 AM
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It would also be NOT road legal in all states.
 
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:07 PM
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Pics?

For many states in the US this would be illegal for a road vehicle. A K series full swap kit for LHD cars would be cool. We could make some K series motors road legal here, even in California.

This is very cool though and if I had a race track only Fit I would love to have a B18 Type R in it for fun factor.
 
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:01 AM
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id drop a bseries into my fit why not...even a ls b series stock would give as much hp as the l15 w the hks turbo .... a b16 w 160 hp is more than you will ever see out of the l series in most cases even under boost
 
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:15 AM
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So you'd drop a lesser hp motor into a car where the K20/24 can go in, with no guess work? Plus untold amounts of fab work, where the K20 is already been done many times, more HP and more parts

200hp NA or 10-15 year technology. There's a reason why Honda got rid of the B series, it evolved into the K series motors.
 
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:08 PM
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Expense is one reason. K's are much more costly than B's not even counting the mission and ECU. If one's budget is such that they don't want to save more for a K and want to swap to a B that are quite reliable and offering quite a bit more power than the L that it would replace, what is really wrong with that notion?

No guess work? There is still much to do, it is not just plug and play putting the K into the GE. I don't know about more parts, sure the extent of parts has definitely built up the since the release of the K back in 2001, but are you forgetting what you stated concerning the age of the B, which is quite a few many years off, considering the K is just about 13yo.
 
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:52 PM
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I dont see why people are giving any hassle.


OMG SOMEONE TRYING SOMETHING OUT OF NORMAL SPECTRUM!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!


Id love to see a GD3 with a D or B. Their aftermarket shits all over the K aftermarket. MASSIVE databases of what works and what doesnt, plus no K i-Vtec bullshit to deal with

I bet a D or B could be in a GD3 or GE8 running, tuned, and making easy 11 second passes down the quarter before the average K motor and tranny and mounts are paid for.

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you guys need to look up the CAPABILITIES that are offered with Neptune or ECTune. Did somebody say tunerview? bluetooth on-the-fly tuning? massive amounts of datalogging? Huge support? cheaper parts that make more power?


My all motor d15b7 made 150whp and ran high 15s with its factory automatic (93 del sol S) Mostly Honda factory-spec parts at that, to keep it cheap, and to prevent need of more then 93 octane
 

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Old 12-15-2013, 11:11 PM
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I dont see why people are giving any hassle.


OMG SOMEONE TRYING SOMETHING OUT OF NORMAL SPECTRUM!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!


Id love to see a GD3 with a D or B. Their aftermarket shits all over the K aftermarket. MASSIVE databases of what works and what doesnt, plus no K i-Vtec bullshit to deal with

I bet a D or B could be in a GD3 or GE8 running, tuned, and making easy 11 second passes down the quarter before the average K motor and tranny and mounts are paid for.

EDIT

you guys need to look up the CAPABILITIES that are offered with Neptune or ECTune. Did somebody say tunerview? bluetooth on-the-fly tuning? massive amounts of datalogging? Huge support? cheaper parts that make more power?


My all motor d15b7 made 150whp and ran high 15s with its factory automatic (93 del sol S) Mostly Honda factory-spec parts at that, to keep it cheap, and to prevent need of more then 93 octane
B/D aftermarket superior to K-series? Dude, you're crazy.

Also, high 15's and 150 whp is awful.

B only has a few advantages:
-Transmissions are not made of glass like the K
-Sound is cooler
-Cheaper

K is:
-Newer
-More reliable
-More capable
-Legal
-etc.

This is coming from someone who dreams of B-series VTEC sounds.
 
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:20 PM
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I think overall when I posted that. I can have a grand in paypal and finish a D or B with online parts purchases.

With the K I might get a fancy shifter or just cams.


A simple CRVTEC gets 200whp with just an ebay header and intake, and tuned.

CRVTEC can get up to 240whp without massive amounts of drama and cost



Speak the truth, the K aftermarket is expensive.


Hell, an external oil pump setup on a B series is under $500 all said and done. Whats the price for a K series?



No one does an engine swap with legality in mind. Well, at least 99% of people doing it. Before my buddy Freddy joined the army with me, he had a turbo B16 in his EG bubble making 280whp, not California legal, and after several years of owning it, has not given him any drama whatsoever. Evo9 injectors, $80 walbro 255 LP, Garret/Godspeed hybrid ball bearing. Has AR70 stamped on the cold side, whatever that may lead to. Cant figure out a turbos ability with only one trim labeled!


Great tune=great reliability!



K series transmissions can take plenty of power. most do require a certain part installed/replaced. Then its simply a matter of going with quality bearings and synchros.

Ive seen plenty of fully stock Civic SI Z3 setups doing ridiculous thingas on the dyno and out on the track.


EDIT Ill kill my support of Ds and Bs when Ks hit sub $500 prices, and the aftermarket decides to recognize that buyers/consumers are not rich
 

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Old 12-15-2013, 11:30 PM
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I think overall when I posted that. I can have a grand in paypal and finish a D or B with online parts purchases.

With the K I might get a fancy shifter or just cams.

EDIT Ill kill my support of Ds and Bs when Ks hit sub $500 prices, and the aftermarket decides to recognize that buyers/consumers are not rich
So you prefer B/D because they're cheap, why not just come out and say that rather than a long post?

Cars are an expensive hobby, if you can't afford it, don't do it.

Brands like Blox/Junk2/Megan Racing/etc., all already make cheap/crap parts for K, go enjoy those purchases.
 
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ok, relax guys...the truth is that the K20a is one of the all time best 4 bangers. I won't even front that the rest are even close...but I did the homework also. The pricepoint is a lot different in the aftermarket and also in the initial purchase price of the engine and tranny. The reality is that we are not streetracers, we're circuit guys mostly, that have classes that we have to fit into...displacements that our engine have to remain under. So, no...we could't just turbo the L15a because we'd be ineligible for the 1.6 and under N/A group and we'd have to run vs. K20a civics and full race built 1.6 turbo Touring cars (all running 245 series tires on 18inch rims).
Similarly a k20a would also put us in that class... and the Fit really can't handle that much tire without massive running gear mods, spindles, wheelwells, fenders etc.
So a B16b (185hp) made perfect sense. For a street car a b18 or some kind of hybrid would also make sense from a cost perspective, even if a K24 TSX engine with all the trimmings would be the 'ultimate'.
Over 250hp FWD street cars become a handful anyway.
 
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how have you handled gauges. I'm assuming the stock stuff doesn't work now.
 
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:58 PM
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There's no dashboard. Gauges are Motec dash display. This is a racing car with integral rollcage etc...
 
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:11 PM
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Would you please give an approximate cost breakdown if a full kit was offered for a plug and play B16GE8?
 
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:29 AM
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Plug and play into racecar? ie. mounts, shift linkage, driveshafts?(doable)... or plug and play with dash compatibility and a/c etc...(difficult)?
 
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I figured as much, I'm assuming no A/C with this swap.
 

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