CVT Cooler
Anyone added a CVT cooler to the Fit 3 yet?
Where do you get the kit from? Or did you buy the parts and DIY? |
Nobody?
People here have modded exhaust systems, intake systems Body kits, ICE systems etc........ and no one gave any thought to cooling the CVT fliud? |
Its not one of those things thats often looked at unless you were towing for example, which if you are then you are asking for a CVT to fail. The other reason is if you live in a hot climate where the concern of the tranny fluid getting too hot was a problem. Plus adding a tranny cool takes away from the efficiency of the radiator and AC depending on what position its placed in.
You can various sizes on this site here in the states,but like I said, its one of those accessories that isn't really needed. https://www.etrailer.com/tran-2015_H...1.5L+I4+Engine |
Originally Posted by JingJangJoe
(Post 1429518)
Nobody?
People here have modded exhaust systems, intake systems Body kits, ICE systems etc........ and no one gave any thought to cooling the CVT fliud? The CVT in the gk has been around for 6-7 years and I haven't seen a reported case of the CVT failing. I'm at 76k+ and so far so good but I'm also not racing, just using it for normal commuting. I changed it the fluid around 50k according to the maintenance minder. |
Originally Posted by 2Rismo2
(Post 1429554)
Have you measured the CVT to see if it's overheating or are you in search of a solution to a theorized problem?
The CVT in the gk has been around for 6-7 years and I haven't seen a reported case of the CVT failing. I'm at 76k+ and so far so good but I'm also not racing, just using it for normal commuting. I changed it the fluid around 50k according to the maintenance minder. Honda recommends changing the CVT fluid every 40,000km. My car's mileage is at 25,500km and after changing the CVT fluid, I can feel the car is actually smoother during driving. The difference is really as clear as nigh and day. That's what got me thinking about installing a CVT cooler. And I just did it today. The temp held steady at 75 degrees Celsius and never exceeded 78 degrees Celsius. Power remains solid throughout and I'm happy with the mod. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...74527ff3d8.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...08a9203342.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...0b887fece0.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...066805d195.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...64a663ce7a.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...92b9b8ae5b.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...7c708a478f.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...374f51ad20.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...b56a414b4c.jpg |
The below photos shows the temp I'm experiencing at the end of some heavy City driving. 101 degrees celsius!!!!!
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...6e110885e4.jpg |
Below pic shows CVT temp after installing the cooler
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...71dfcde750.jpg |
101 down to 77? wow, that is a huge improvement
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Wow! Big difference.
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Originally Posted by evilchargerfan
(Post 1429599)
101 down to 77? wow, that is a huge improvement
Originally Posted by Bassguitarist1985
(Post 1429603)
Wow! Big difference.
It's worth it over here at forever summer country. |
How did you install it? and which kit did you buy?
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The kit is available only locally here and i suspect they sourced the CVT adaptor from Taiwan. They wouldn't tell me
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Today i tested the effectiveness of the Cooler again.
I did a 0 - 100km/h sprint and then drove the car at redline for about 2 mins at 2nd gear. Temp went up to a max of 86 degrees celsius. I then went onto the highway and drove normally at 90 km/h home in D. The temp went down to 79 degrees till i reached home The above Just for info should anyone needs it. |
Originally Posted by JingJangJoe
(Post 1429579)
Well over here in forever summer Singapore, the CVT temp in my car can hit 101 degrees Celsius. The norm during driving ranges from 87 to 93 degrees Celsius. I drive in the city most of the time and prolonged exposure to such temperature can't be good for longevity of the CVT. I also find that once the CVT temp hits 91 degrees celsius and above, the car feels sluggish and there's an obvious power loss during driving.
Honda recommends changing the CVT fluid every 40,000km. My car's mileage is at 25,500km and after changing the CVT fluid, I can feel the car is actually smoother during driving. The difference is really as clear as nigh and day. That's what got me thinking about installing a CVT cooler. And I just did it today. The temp held steady at 75 degrees Celsius and never exceeded 78 degrees Celsius. Power remains solid throughout and I'm happy with the mod. BTW - what kind of diagnostics reader are you using? |
Hi,
I'm using a Lifi gauge. Made in China but works well. I used to have an Ultragauge but could not get the PID codes for the CVT temp readout. |
Originally Posted by 2Rismo2
(Post 1429776)
That looks like a well made kit and the numbers definitely shows it made an improvement. If someone could source that kit into the US, I'm sure some other members would like to try it out.
https://www.etrailer.com/tran-2015_H...1.5L+I4+Engine Easily sourced here in the states. Couple different options too. |
Originally Posted by Bassguitarist1985
(Post 1429782)
https://www.etrailer.com/tran-2015_H...1.5L+I4+Engine
Easily sourced here in the states. Couple different options too. Do you have it installed? Does it take that much additional CVT fluid? |
Originally Posted by 2Rismo2
(Post 1429788)
Good to know and thank you for the link. I don't tow, but may look into it. CVT seems to be doing fine on mine so not a huge priority for me.
Do you have it installed? Does it take that much additional CVT fluid? |
Originally Posted by Bassguitarist1985
(Post 1429790)
Sorry but CVTs while they have their place, I think are garbage. I've been driving a manual since I was 16. Will make every effort to do so until my legs dont work anymore lol. A tranny cooler on a manual would be extremely difficult to implement since it lacks the input shaft pump the CVT does.
When I want to flick through gears, I've got an SV650 for that these days :) |
That adapter looks like the same one for the 2016+ Honda Civic coolers that are available. I can't seem to find one anywhere else. Do you think the cooler kit at this link will work? All the ones at etrailer don't have the cvt adapter.
https://www.vividracing.com/2016-hon...52484107.html# |
Short answer is I think it would
The part number for the cvt "warmer" is different between the two vehicles but I think this may have to do with hose routing 25560-5T0-003 This is for 2015-2020 Fits https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...5663893919.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...cad52bae8a.jpg 25560-R3W-003 This is for the 2014-2020Civics and 2016-2020 HRVs https://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com...tf-25560r3w003 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000825894719.html https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...c0bbaaae8b.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...c93e22745e.jpg This is the best I could do for comparison of the back side. The reddish area is the fit and the underlying grey is the civic part so it does look like the plate would work as all the bits that need to line up do. Since the O-rings are shared between vehicles we can be sure that the scaling is correct. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...a1e310b4b8.png Here is an EBAY 2016 Cooler Kit that seems like it would work https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Honda-....c100752.m1982 Another interesting note is that the Civics/HRVS/CRVs in other countries have OEM CVT coolers. I could not find an OEM foreign fit cooler plate. This part is for 2017,18,19 for sure https://www.parts-honda.uk/honda-car.../ATM17/2/30842 Part Number 27900-5Y8-Y00 https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...69a0579e94.jpg I also found this https://www.sodecaok.com/index.php?m...ucts_id=211972 https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...acb8b6c815.png |
Great! Thanks for all the info @tyrtill. I'm going to get the ebay one you linked (looks like it's the same as the vivd racing one but cheaper). I'll let you know how goes.
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Gave it a shot, and the answer is....NOPE! Does not fit. The screw holes don't line up.
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Are they off just a tiny bit? That’s disappointing.
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The bottom hole is off by quite a bit. If you look at the adapter in @JingJangJoe 's post, the bottom hole angles in the opposite direction of the one in the 2016+ Honda Civic kit. The top holes are only off by a little bit though.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...6c6dabfdf7.jpg |
That’s strange.
It almost looks like it would fit if the plate was flipped over. I wonder if one of the parts pictures I had was mirrored before I downloaded it. |
https://m.aliexpress.com/i/225580072...site4itemAdapt
I found this, anyone have any experience dealing with this website? |
Congrats on the successful installation. Would you mind sharing where you get the kit from and the connection route as well? I have the same problem with my CVT. Had to change fluids at 16,000km because it feels very sluggish although it's almost brand new. Car drives much smoother now which is what it's supposed to
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