What Acura needs is a Fit
#1
What Acura needs is a Fit
Actually what Honda needs Honda needs is an affordable sports car, or at least a 'fer real" hot hatch. Since Acura has mirror images of Civics, an improved Fit could be an Acura.
Require requirements: IRS, 4 wheel disc brakes, more powerful engine (at least 175 horsepower, limited slop differential). No wild styling.
The Civic Type R doesn't count. Ever priced one? Mid 30ls. dealers asking 10k premiums. Limited production.
No, I won't buy one, cannot afford one, and unfortunately too old (78).
Require requirements: IRS, 4 wheel disc brakes, more powerful engine (at least 175 horsepower, limited slop differential). No wild styling.
The Civic Type R doesn't count. Ever priced one? Mid 30ls. dealers asking 10k premiums. Limited production.
No, I won't buy one, cannot afford one, and unfortunately too old (78).
#2
Yes Honda could really use a Hot Hatch in its line up especially now that the Focus RS/ST are no longer available. Hyundai has the new N which is suppose to be really good. Honda could use Type R tech and the turbo L15 and put that into the Fit and make a competitive car. If they priced it around the same as the others it would be even better.
Unfortunately I don’t see this happening as the market shift toward SUV’s is on the rise and the enthusiasts market is not as strong in the US. I could see Japan and Europe getting a Fit Type R or Type S!!
Unfortunately I don’t see this happening as the market shift toward SUV’s is on the rise and the enthusiasts market is not as strong in the US. I could see Japan and Europe getting a Fit Type R or Type S!!
#6
FIT Si
Actually, Honda could do a Fit Si very easily
From the factory:
HFP kit, with the Sport body trimmings
17" wheels
6-speed, perhaps LSD
drop in the 1.5t from the Civic
EX-L interior w/some additional bolstering
LED headlights/Foglamps
2-3 available colors unique to the Fit Si perhaps Sonic Grey Pearl, CW, Rallye Red
"Fit Si" badging
any other suggestions?
Based on current pricing, Honda could probably do this for $25-27k, could also badge it as an Acura RSX Type S
Afterthoughts: if not the 1.5t, at least 4-wheel disc brakes
From the factory:
HFP kit, with the Sport body trimmings
17" wheels
6-speed, perhaps LSD
drop in the 1.5t from the Civic
EX-L interior w/some additional bolstering
LED headlights/Foglamps
2-3 available colors unique to the Fit Si perhaps Sonic Grey Pearl, CW, Rallye Red
"Fit Si" badging
any other suggestions?
Based on current pricing, Honda could probably do this for $25-27k, could also badge it as an Acura RSX Type S
Afterthoughts: if not the 1.5t, at least 4-wheel disc brakes
Last edited by PhilF; 03-25-2019 at 08:48 PM. Reason: Update
#7
Actually, Honda could do a Fit Si very easily
From the factory:
HFP kit, with the Sport body trimmings
17" wheels
6-speed, perhaps LSD
drop in the 1.5t from the Civic
EX-L interior w/some additional bolstering
LED headlights/Foglamps
2-3 available colors unique to the Fit Si perhaps Sonic Grey Pearl, CW, Rallye Red
"Fit Si" badging
any other suggestions?
Based on current pricing, Honda could probably do this for $25-27k, could also badge it as an Acura RSX Type S
From the factory:
HFP kit, with the Sport body trimmings
17" wheels
6-speed, perhaps LSD
drop in the 1.5t from the Civic
EX-L interior w/some additional bolstering
LED headlights/Foglamps
2-3 available colors unique to the Fit Si perhaps Sonic Grey Pearl, CW, Rallye Red
"Fit Si" badging
any other suggestions?
Based on current pricing, Honda could probably do this for $25-27k, could also badge it as an Acura RSX Type S
Last edited by KentFinn; 03-24-2019 at 08:27 PM.
#8
Huh!
Didn't know that, that would be a problem, all else considered, maybe Honda has something in their International system that would drop in and be a bit higher performance. Don't know if the Jazz has some higher output engines for other markets. The Sport is just a trim group on a LX. Looks a bit neater, but all show, no go. Perhaps Honda knows their market better than our guesses on what would sell. The success of the CTR is a prime example, I would have thought a Coupe body would be closer to a real sports car, but the success of it as a 4-door hatchback proves me wrong, times have changed and I haven't.
#9
Let's face reality. The "culture of the car" is dead. It's just that some of us haven't got the memo yet. The future is all electric cars and autonomous taxis. The auto industry is gearing up to sell us transportation as a service, not a product.
At least that's what I'm supposed to believe judging from the editorials that appear in my news feed every day.
I'm wondering if I'm ever going to be able to buy another stick shift car.
At least that's what I'm supposed to believe judging from the editorials that appear in my news feed every day.
I'm wondering if I'm ever going to be able to buy another stick shift car.
#10
Let's face reality. The "culture of the car" is dead. It's just that some of us haven't got the memo yet. The future is all electric cars and autonomous taxis. The auto industry is gearing up to sell us transportation as a service, not a product.
At least that's what I'm supposed to believe judging from the editorials that appear in my news feed every day.
I'm wondering if I'm ever going to be able to buy another stick shift car.
At least that's what I'm supposed to believe judging from the editorials that appear in my news feed every day.
I'm wondering if I'm ever going to be able to buy another stick shift car.
#11
Kinda with ya, not totally in though
Unfortunately you may be right, Uncle G.. I already have my last new car and it is a manual shift (2015 Fit). I'm 78 and squeaking by on SS. Thanks to idiots who elect fools like AOC, the push toward "green" solutions, we're may be headed toward the brink. Gee, this isn't my usual optimism. I like driving and shifting gears. An auto auto will be boring as hell.
#12
Dinosaur here. After a million or so miles in a semi I’ve shifted my share. I like my ‘13 sport auto. Paddles are (sorta) fun. As far as AOC most of her issues aren’t likely to become policy, but I enjoy seeing her prod and irritate the old fuddyduddie ‘publicans. And she could ride shotgun anytime :-)
#13
I'm not totally in yet, very much agree on Idiots, fools & AOC. The current generation seems to look at cars mostly as appliances, just a means to get transported while staying connected with their "devices", their tiny screens are their God. They get no enjoyment from the journey, only the destination matters. I'm 71, just bought my wife a 2019 Fit EX-L Navi, I got a 2019 Civic Touring Coupe in December, have done some minor cosmetics mods. Among the 40ish & up group, there's still a lot of car collectors & nuts. The Mecum Auctions and the like are still chugging along. Some car companies, like Toyota, have embraced the "appliance" culture, Honda, for the time being, still is making cars for drivers. But you're correct, we're becoming dinosaurs.
#14
Actually, Honda could do a Fit Si very easily
From the factory:
HFP kit, with the Sport body trimmings
17" wheels
6-speed, perhaps LSD
drop in the 1.5t from the Civic
EX-L interior w/some additional bolstering
LED headlights/Foglamps
2-3 available colors unique to the Fit Si perhaps Sonic Grey Pearl, CW, Rallye Red
"Fit Si" badging
any other suggestions?
Based on current pricing, Honda could probably do this for $25-27k, could also badge it as an Acura RSX Type S
Afterthoughts: if not the 1.5t, at least 4-wheel disc brakes
From the factory:
HFP kit, with the Sport body trimmings
17" wheels
6-speed, perhaps LSD
drop in the 1.5t from the Civic
EX-L interior w/some additional bolstering
LED headlights/Foglamps
2-3 available colors unique to the Fit Si perhaps Sonic Grey Pearl, CW, Rallye Red
"Fit Si" badging
any other suggestions?
Based on current pricing, Honda could probably do this for $25-27k, could also badge it as an Acura RSX Type S
Afterthoughts: if not the 1.5t, at least 4-wheel disc brakes
#15
Unfortunately you may be right, Uncle G.. I already have my last new car and it is a manual shift (2015 Fit). I'm 78 and squeaking by on SS. Thanks to idiots who elect fools like AOC, the push toward "green" solutions, we're may be headed toward the brink. Gee, this isn't my usual optimism. I like driving and shifting gears. An auto auto will be boring as hell.
#16
Just ignore Mike's occasionally angry, incoherent ramblings. He also thinks abolishing the electoral college is a good idea.
Sometimes he can't help himself. Don't take it personally. Usually he behaves in a decent manner around here and is a good source of information.
Sometimes he can't help himself. Don't take it personally. Usually he behaves in a decent manner around here and is a good source of information.
#17
Good luck asking Jeeves to figure out how to turn on your cars.
Last edited by mike410b; 04-01-2019 at 11:18 AM.
#18
I'm pretty sure that it fit the definition of 'angry incoherent rambling'. Especially when you finished the rant with "selfish ass".
It's also unfortunate you advocate for the tyranny of the majority and mob rule.
I agree that people need to learn to Google. It's not hard. It's a disease on the Forester forum I frequent. Mods seem to spend most of their time merging redundant threads because nobody knows how or is too lazy to search.
*Edit* Boo on your ninja edit! Lol.
It's also unfortunate you advocate for the tyranny of the majority and mob rule.
I agree that people need to learn to Google. It's not hard. It's a disease on the Forester forum I frequent. Mods seem to spend most of their time merging redundant threads because nobody knows how or is too lazy to search.
*Edit* Boo on your ninja edit! Lol.
Last edited by sneefy; 04-01-2019 at 11:23 AM.
#19
I'll just drop this here:
"Angry, incoherent ramblings."
Or factual statements about the damage boomers (78 is close enough) have done to this world.
Also, yes the electoral college should be abolished. I'm sorry you believe that the votes of people in rural states should matter more than those in states.........where people actually live
Or factual statements about the damage boomers (78 is close enough) have done to this world.
Also, yes the electoral college should be abolished. I'm sorry you believe that the votes of people in rural states should matter more than those in states.........where people actually live
#20
lol: Go take your meds and watch some more Faux News.
As a member of said generation, you may be right. While people I consider friends don't feel this way, I've definitely seen some truth to your statement in the car posts that've seen scroll past on social media. All these nonsense overweight minivans masquerading as "cross overs" and lol, "sport utility vehicles".