I called my local dealer today also and got the same price with destination charge included for a Fit Sport MT. He calculated for me how much it would be with tax and license and out the door it is going to be $17,200 but might just give it to me for $17k. I guess for a car in this class $17k is a good amount of money but you really do have to breakdown everything the car includes and probably the biggest factor behind its price is the Honda name and reputation. I dont mind though, $1k here and isnt going to make a whole lot of difference if at all as far as my monthly payments go.

 

I agree with everything you've said. It's sad really that there are some who are so cynical of other people's motives. Perhaps they are that way and think all must be like themselves. Is it impossible to be objective and give an honest opinion on a message board just because one happens to sell certain cars? I suppose you're not allowed to voice your opinions because you happen to be a Honda car salesmen. Are there those that actually think you will make some car sales by posting your opinions? I have great respect for a person like yourself, who believes in what you sell so much that you post about it to those that have virtually no chance of being your customers. To me it means you are also telling the truth to those that walk into your dealership. Keep posting what you believe, sir. Remember, there will be some that cross your path that will basically call you a liar, or judge your integrity, even though they don't know a thing about you. Thanks for your opinion!

 

This all started back on page one because I mentioned that I was disappointed in the MSRP for the Sport Fit 5AT, and that I would have to wait and see what the MSRP was going to be for the Hyundai Accent 3-door hatch due to be launched this quarter, before I would make a decision on which car to buy. To be honest even after seeing the MSRP for the US Fit, I was still leaning toward the Fit, but knew I would have a harder time negotiating the price within my budget.
b17gsr came back and said that the Accent didn't offer what the Fit offered, so I proceeded to divulge information I have learned from extensive reading I have done concerning all viable alternative vehicles in this category including the Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, Scion xA, Hyundai Accent, and the Honda Fit.

Then pahondadealer came back with this:
This was your original reply:
Not once did you say that you were a previous Hyundai owner. If you had, I wouldn't have launched into my rant, which I now look back and regret because I tend to fly off the handle at times. All I could see was a Honda salesman slamming his competitor, not an experienced Hyundai owner.
As I'm sure you can tell, I have very little love for car salesman. My father was a car salesman, so I got to hear about all the tricks. One of my former co-workers is now a sales manger at a Honda dealer, and I have sat in his office and watched what goes on behind the scenes during negotiating. It wasn't very pretty. I realize that many times, it's not the car salesman who is being deceptive, but rather it is the sales manager.

Plus, it's hard to have respect for car salesman when you walk on the lot knowing more about their product than they do. If you are an honest car salesman, I wish I lived in your town because I would buy a car from you, although after everything I've said, you probably wouldn't want to deal with me.

I called it sleazy because as I said it forces people to pay $1320 more for a package, when all they want is the one option. If I wanted cruise control (I am considering buying this car because my commute is 45 miles round trip, and I would use cruise control everyday) I would have to buy the Sport Fit, but I would rather buy an after-market body kit from Mugen, so I would have to remove the Sport body kit, and sell it at a loss. I Also plan on putting 16" wheels on the car, so I would have to remove the 15" premium wheels and tires that come on the Sport, and sell them at a loss. I know I can get the 16" HFP wheel upgrade, but I don't particularly care for them. I don't need fog lights because I have bought new vehicles in the past with fog lights, and they really don't work that well in the fog. The security system with remote entry is compelling, but I believe I can get a better after-market product. I don't need a 200 watt sound system. I spent a great deal of my youth blasting my ear drums with extremely high decibels of music from bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Judas Priest, Def Leppard, etc., and now I actually have some hearing loss because of it.
So why can't Honda just offer cruise control as an option on the base model?
People vent when they get their hopes up, and their expectations set, only to have those expectations compromised.

I never meant to portray the Accent as better than the Fit, but only as a viable alternative. I am still more interested in the Fit than I am in the Accent.

 

Point well taken.

 

I fully expected that response and basically left myself open to that reply.

I could easily afford a new Lexus ES330 or an Acura TL, but I choose not to throw good money away on something that depreciates rapidly. Instead I choose to put my money into real estate where I have realized major capital gains.

 

I have come to the conclusion that I am probably causing more strife than doing good in this forum. Therefore I believe it is best that I no longer contribute. I apologize for causing any discomfort, and hope you all get a great deal on your Fit.

 

Ok, so we're all good, right? Everyone's cool? Good.

No hard feelings. The "Carsalesperson" steriotype is hard if not impossible to break. IT's a lot of bad eggs giving the few decent guys a bad name, but that's a topic for another day.

Thanks,
Russ

 

JazzFusion,

Don't leave the fitfreak forums over something like this. This is such a petty thing. If you enjoy being here, stay here. My only request is don't be so quick to judge. I've done that before and it's got me removed from some pretty cool places. Stay here, hang out. Besides, I need someone to rip me a new one every now and then....Keeps my head in the right place.

Stay,
Russ

 

Nothing like some good friction to heat things up.

BTW, those that think luxury cars = wealth should look at this link:

http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/to...lionaires.html

 

Out of this list however, how many of these people are car enthusiasts? I see a few by their choices but some are not, which their choice makes sense.

The founders of Google, drive a Toyota Prius, so what?

Jay Leno, has probably over a hundred cars, ranging from a 1960's fire engine to a Mercedes McLaren SLR. Jerry Seinfeld owns a fleet of Porsches. Indy/CART driver Dario Franchetti and his actress wife, Ashley Judd, own a S2000, among other cars. Formula 1 driver and arguably the richest athlete in the world owns a fleet of Ferrari's, including the Enzo. Honda F1 driver, Jenson Button, owns a S2000 and NSX Type-R.

Some other people like cars and enjoy buying luxury cars, not as expression of their wealth or to show off how much money they have, but as a hobby, for fun, for personal enjoyment.

 

Very interesting. So Swedish billionaire Ingvar Kamprad (net worth 28 Billion) the founder of IKEA furniture stores drives a Volvo. But understand that he is Swedish, so it’s no surprise that he drives a Volvo which is the pride and joy of Sweden and owned by Ford Motor Co. of USA. Check out the photo of his car, not just any Volvo but a second-hand 1993 station wagon that is plain ugly !

 

Have you heard of the old saying you get what you pay for. I think this is a good example of that. Honda vs. Hyundai. I have actually owned both, no comparison. Look at the total cost of ownership on both and see which one will be a better bargain to drive.

 

What do we need to do to reserve/ pre-order? do i jus go to the dealer and ask them for it?

 

As Rodney King once said, "Can't we all get along?" This site should be for fun, not arguing.

 

My doctor told me to run 4 miles a day, too. I called him up 2 weeks later and said, "Doc, I'm 56 miles from my house!" - with fond thanks to Rodney Dangerfield

 

The book, "The Millionaire Next Door" concluded that most millionaires prefer to buy and drive used vehicles in excellent condition.
I was in a little Italian restaurant in Bentonville, Arkansas back in 1984 when "Mr. Sam" (Walton) drove up for launch in a used pick up truck sportin' jeans and a work shirt. Quite unpretentious and he seemed a down home sort. I agree with the book that most people of wealth don't wear it on their sleeves; they didn't get that way by spending it on depreciating assets.

 

Does the keyless entry include a alarm?

Hey time machine, lets buy the car together, we will get a discount in numbers, im 10 miles from temple city.

 

REALLLY! I never knew that?? where do you plan on getting it at? Spirit Honda ? Goudy HondA??

 

im in the walnut/west covina area.

Im thinking san burnadino (sp?) honda. but im up to any dealer, ive heard good things about goudy as well.

 

I asked my dad about it and he says if you go in aas a group , you have to like get like good credit or something, iono it depends on the dealer. LOLL covina, i go to Cal Poly Pomona